The Official Oakland Raider analysis thread

NYYFAN · 03-03-05, 07:46 AM

With Moss on board, Porter signed long term and Jordon just about a Raider, the offense is looking better. Special teams is a strong unit but the defense needs lots of work. I also expect Charles Woodson to be traded very soon for players and or picks.

As for Jordon, does anyone know if he is much of a pass catcher out of the backfield?

PlsDontTearDownY.S. · 03-03-05, 09:24 AM

Excellent job by the Raiders, getting Jordan. As far as him catching balls ot of the backfield, I don't remember him ever dropping one. But since we never gave him much of an oppurtunity, it's hard to say.

JeffWeaverFan · 03-03-05, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by PlsDontTearDownY.S.

Excellent job by the Raiders, getting Jordan. As far as him catching balls ot of the backfield, I don't remember him ever dropping one. But since we never gave him much of an oppurtunity, it's hard to say.

Yeah, I really have no idea. Jordan is a great RB with a combo of both speed and power. I think he's going to be a 1500 yard type RB.

RIyankee · 03-03-05, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffWeaverFan

Yeah, I really have no idea. Jordan is a great RB with a combo of both speed and power. I think he's going to be a 1500 yard type RB.

1500??? I don't know about that.

He's never been a feature back and has never logged #1 RB carries over the course of a 16-game season. His value is purely speculative.

JMHO

BTW Who was it that declared via a thread, that the NFL is over?

PlsDontTearDownY.S. · 03-03-05, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RIyankee

1500??? I don't know about that.

He's never been a feature back and has never logged #1 RB carries over the course of a 16-game season. His value is purely speculative.

JMHO

BTW Who was it that declared via a thread, that the NFL is over?

Running backs like Lamont Jordan don't come around too often. He's fast, quick, agile, powerful and he has excellent vision. He would have done everything Curtis did and possibly more if given the oppurtunity.

DaBoys4LifeNYY35 · 03-03-05, 11:56 AM

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BTW Who was it that declared via a thread, that the NFL is over?

Exactly. Which is why I begged awhile back for the permanency of the NFL subforum.

Nevertheless... really. An "Official Oakland Raider analysis thread"? :rolleyes:

DaBoys4LifeNYY35 · 03-03-05, 12:02 PM

Oh yeah, and Mark2, quit it with the "JMHO

" in all your football posts already.

BroadwayBomber55 · 03-03-05, 12:21 PM

The Raiders need to revamp their defense in order to gain respectability. It might take Al Davis 2 to 3 years for the Raiders to get back into the playoffs.

Their offense is solid as long as Randy Moss stays out of trouble, Kerry Collins doesn't force the ball, and draft J.J. Arrington.

DaBoys4LifeNYY35 · 03-03-05, 12:23 PM

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Their offense is solid as long as Randy Moss stays out of trouble, Kerry Collins doesn't force the ball, and draft J.J. Arrington.

Why would they draft J.J. Arrington if they're paying LaMont Jordan starter money?

NYYFAN · 03-03-05, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBoys4LifeNYY35

Exactly. Which is why I begged awhile back for the permanency of the NFL subforum.

Nevertheless... really. An "Official Oakland Raider analysis thread"? :rolleyes:

I thought since the Jets and Pats have a thread why not! Maybe you can do a Cowboy one...you can call it "will the real Drew please stand up."..

NYYFAN · 03-03-05, 12:40 PM

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Why would they draft J.J. Arrington if they're paying LaMont Jordan starter money?

After getting Jordon I don't see a RB at least early on draft day...the D needs lots of help...

PlsDontTearDownY.S. · 03-03-05, 12:52 PM

The Raiders offense is going to be unstoppable, but from here on out Raiders fans will hear again and again that the S+B does not have enough defense...and they don't. Napoleon Harris was your best defensive player, aside from Woodson.

NYYFAN · 03-03-05, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PlsDontTearDownY.S.

The Raiders offense is going to be unstoppable, but from here on out Raiders fans will hear again and again that the S+B does not have enough defense...and they don't. Napoleon Harris was your best defensive player, aside from Woodson.

I don't think Al is done and the draft must be mostly D. Harris really didn't pan out as expected...

Raiders play Jets and Pats this year...should be fun...

PlsDontTearDownY.S. · 03-03-05, 01:09 PM

Do you guys have that much space under the cap? I'm not a Raider hater, but that D needs serious work.

NYYFAN · 03-03-05, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PlsDontTearDownY.S.

Do you guys have that much space under the cap? I'm not a Raider hater, but that D needs serious work.

Raiders are know for being one of the better teams at CAP management...Moss will restructure, Collins already did, Gannon did and might be released, Wheat was cut etc...

Snatch Catch · 03-03-05, 01:17 PM

Enjoy your new perennnial All-Pro runningback.

Eff.

PlsDontTearDownY.S. · 03-03-05, 01:18 PM

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Enjoy your new perennnial All-Pro runningback.

Eff.

Seriously. I'm so f'n disgusted right now with the Jets.

Snatch Catch · 03-03-05, 01:20 PM

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Seriously. I'm so f'n disgusted right now with the Jets.

Let hop over to the Jets thread and I'll continue this with you.

Congrats to the Raiders fans- This isn't just a decent back you got. He'll be at least top ten in the league.

NYYFAN · 03-03-05, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Snatch Catch

Let hop over to the Jets thread and I'll continue this with you.

Congrats to the Raiders fans- This isn't just a decent back you got. He'll be at least top ten in the league.

Thanks! Al is like George, he just wants to win...funny they have the same birthday...

RIyankee · 03-03-05, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NYYFAN

Thanks! Al is like George, he just wants to win...funny they have the same birthday...

Mark I repsonse to your PM...

Kobe Bryant should fit right in with that team.

03-03-05, 09:24 AM	#2
PlsDontTearDownY.S. NYYF Legend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: north jersey	Re: The Official Oakland Raider analysis thread Excellent job by the Raiders, getting Jordan. As far as him catching balls ot of the backfield, I don't remember him ever dropping one. But since we never gave him much of an oppurtunity, it's hard to say.
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03-03-05, 12:02 PM	#7
DaBoys4LifeNYY35 NYYF Legend Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Oxnard, CA	Re: The Official Oakland Raider analysis thread Oh yeah, and Mark2, quit it with the "JMHO " in all your football posts already.
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03-03-05, 12:21 PM	#8
BroadwayBomber55 Joe Hallenbeck is a Yankee fan Join Date: May 2003 Location: SF-Oak-SJ Bay Area, California	Re: The Official Oakland Raider analysis thread The Raiders need to revamp their defense in order to gain respectability. It might take Al Davis 2 to 3 years for the Raiders to get back into the playoffs. Their offense is solid as long as Randy Moss stays out of trouble, Kerry Collins doesn't force the ball, and draft J.J. Arrington.
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03-03-05, 12:52 PM	#12
PlsDontTearDownY.S. NYYF Legend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: north jersey	Re: The Official Oakland Raider analysis thread The Raiders offense is going to be unstoppable, but from here on out Raiders fans will hear again and again that the S+B does not have enough defense...and they don't. Napoleon Harris was your best defensive player, aside from Woodson.
	__________________ Dem ol' grimy Jets...

03-03-05, 01:09 PM	#14
PlsDontTearDownY.S. NYYF Legend Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: north jersey	Re: The Official Oakland Raider analysis thread Do you guys have that much space under the cap? I'm not a Raider hater, but that D needs serious work.
	__________________ Dem ol' grimy Jets...

03-03-05, 07:46 AM	#1
NYYFAN God Bless the Scooter Join Date: Jul 2001	The Official Oakland Raider analysis thread With Moss on board, Porter signed long term and Jordon just about a Raider, the offense is looking better. Special teams is a strong unit but the defense needs lots of work. I also expect Charles Woodson to be traded very soon for players and or picks. As for Jordon, does anyone know if he is much of a pass catcher out of the backfield?

03-03-05, 01:17 PM	#16
Snatch Catch I believe in The Cock. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ	Re: The Official Oakland Raider analysis thread Enjoy your new perennnial All-Pro runningback. Eff.
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