Another team's prospects thread

[ppa79]

I couldn't find a thread for talking about another team's prospects. I didn't want to put this in the All purpose thread because that is for the Yankees.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...ws/262103.html

I'll take this guy. Maybe we can work out a deal. Sometimes a change of scenary is good for a player.

[geodork]

I couldn't find a thread for talking about another team's prospects. I didn't want to put this in the All purpose thread because that is for the Yankees.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...ws/262103.html

I'll take this guy. Maybe we can work out a deal. Sometimes a change of scenary is good for a player.

No way! Serious head case. The Yanks should stay FAR away from him. Would not fit in with their clubhouse. When was the last time any player like this stuck with the Yankees?

[ppa79]

No way! Serious head case. The Yanks should stay FAR away from him. Would not fit in with their clubhouse. When was the last time any player like this stuck with the Yankees?

He's 22 years old. He has too much talent to give up on. If I remember Sheffield had his problems with authority when he was coming up.

[LecheCaberera2826]

I am border line on trying to get this kid, i agree that he is WACKO, but i also agree that he has 5 tool stuff and could be very special Get him!!!!

[Jaeho]

I am border line on trying to get this kid, i agree that he is WACKO, but i also agree that he has 5 tool stuff and could be very special Get him!!!!

I'll take this guy. Maybe we can work out a deal. Sometimes a change of scenary is good for a player.

People use to say the same things about Toe Nash. He has 5 tools! He could be special! Dukes is a headcase. Get him for what? So he can explode in the biggest city in the world and become tabloid fodder? Let him go to KC and learn how to be a major leaguer without assaulting anyone first.

[kjamidon]

i was there for that game and i asked Shawn Riggans what happened and reliped "i will take the 5Th"...i also chatted with the bat boy and he knew nothing about it..But when a player gets tossed after a broken bat and NO arguement starts..Something is up..At leasted Dukes signed 2 cards for me--haha--kj

[mbn007]

It is foolish to even try to deny the talent level that is in this guy. Top shelf talent. World class talent. Multi-million dollar talent.

But it is in a human being who has a 10 cent brain. Pass.

[NJASDJDH]

I'll take him. I'd trade Duncan and Melky for him.

[mhmajp]

Who is the kid that the Devil Rays just reactivated? The one who was out with drug problems? The blogger who did In George We Trust and now does Baby Bombers loves that kid, but I'd guess that it's too late to get him.

Given the number of veteran players at Columbus, if the Rays release him, I'd take a flyer. There's already a bunch of players there who are often labelled bad clubhouse guys and yet Melky, Cano, Wang and Philips have all come up and done passable to extremely well.

[BennyTheJetRodriguez]

People use to say the same things about Toe Nash. He has 5 tools! He could be special! Dukes is a headcase. Get him for what? So he can explode in the biggest city in the world and become tabloid fodder? Let him go to KC and learn how to be a major leaguer without assaulting anyone first.

Toe Nash's tools were exaggerated and he lied about his age by a lot if i'm not mistaken. Toe Nash also was a felon if i'm not mistaken. This guy argued balls and strikes, lets hold off on the life sentance please. Unlike Nash Dukes has played pro ball and played it well. Get him. Who cares if he's a jerk, let him play a year or half a year and be a good citizen and then trade him or use him until you can trade him.

[ppa79]

People use to say the same things about Toe Nash. He has 5 tools! He could be special! Dukes is a headcase. Get him for what? So he can explode in the biggest city in the world and become tabloid fodder? Let him go to KC and learn how to be a major leaguer without assaulting anyone first.

Toe Nash? Are you kidding me. Dukes is one of the best outfield prospects in league. You are comparing someone who is excelling in AAA to someone who never made it out of rookie ball. Come on? If you want to not trade for him because of his off-field issue so be it, but don't compare him to Toe Nash. Dukes has serious talent. Sheffield has issue when he was coming up and he turned out great. When a player has talent like this you can't ignore it.

Dukes's minor league career.

Year	Team Name	League	Age	Org.	Level	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	HBP	IBB	SH	SF	DP	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
2003	Charleston (Sc)	SAL	19	Tb	A	117	383	51	94	17	4	7	53	33	11	45	130	10	1	4	3	5	.245	.338	.366	704
2004	Charleston (Sc)	SAL	20	Tb	A	43	163	26	47	12	2	2	15	14	1	18	47	3	3	0	1	1	.288	.368	.423	791
	Bakersfield	Calif	20	Tb	A+	58	211	44	70	16	2	8	34	16	7	26	50	5	1	1	1	1	.332	.416	.540	956
2005	Montgomery	Sou	21	Tb	AA	120	446	73	128	21	5	18	73	19	9	45	83	4	2	0	3	13	.287	.355	.478	833

Year	Team	Lg.	Ag	Org	Lvl	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	HBP	SH	SF	GDP	Avg	OBP	SLG	OPS	Updated
2006	Durham	IL	22	Tb	AAA	80	283	58	83	15	5	10	50	9	4	44	47	7	0	0	5	.293	.401	.488	889	7/30/2006

[ppa79]

It is foolish to even try to deny the talent level that is in this guy. Top shelf talent. World class talent. Multi-million dollar talent.

But it is in a human being who has a 10 cent brain. Pass.

Did we pass on Dwight Gooden? What about Darryl Strawberry? How many chances did we give to Steve Howe? I don't see the Phillies cutting Brett Myers anytime soon for what he did. And those guys where grown adults. This guy is still a kid.

[ppa79]

Who is the kid that the Devil Rays just reactivated? The one who was out with drug problems? The blogger who did In George We Trust and now does Baby Bombers loves that kid, but I'd guess that it's too late to get him.

Josh Hamilton

[mhmajp]

Josh Hamilton

That's the one. Well, hopefully if Dukes gets released, the Yankees will swoop in. I'd say trade for, but you who would we be okay giving up for him in light of how greedy the Rays are when it comes to trading prospects and other young talent?

[Jaeho]

Toe Nash? Are you kidding me. Dukes is one of the best outfield prospects in league. You are comparing someone who is excelling in AAA to someone who never made it out of rookie ball. Come on? If you want to not trade for him because of his off-field issue so be it, but don't compare him to Toe Nash. Dukes has serious talent. Sheffield has issue when he was coming up and he turned out great. When a player has talent like this you can't ignore it/

Someone needs to go back and read again. I didn't compare him to Nash. I said people use to say the same things. Look at the tools. Look at the talent. He is so talented that the good outweighs the bad. Dukes is a headcase. Obviously the Devils Rays feel he is a problem since they now have suspended twice this year. And apparently despite this awesome talent, they won’t even play him ahead of the immortal Damon Hollins who is having a Tony Womack-like season.

The Yankees aren't trading for him anyway so I am not sure why this was even brought up.

[NJASDJDH]

Someone needs to go back and read again. I didn't compare him to Nash. I said people use to say the same things. Look at the tools. Look at the talent. He is so talented that the good outweighs the bad. Dukes is a headcase. Obviously the Devils Rays feel he is a problem since they now have suspended twice this year. And apparently despite this awesome talent, they won’t even play him ahead of the immortal Damon Hollins who is having a Tony Womack-like season.

The Yankees aren't trading for him anyway so I am not sure why this was even brought up.

The Devil Rays have done a terrible job with their talent. Not to mention that they seem to be using him as a scapegoat for the actions of his more highly touted teammates. The reason the Nash comparison is ludicrous is that Dukes has those same amazing tools and...*gasp*...performance all the way up to the highest level of minor league baseball that backs that talent. Nash was all scouting reports.

[LecheCaberera2826]

I am telling you, the Yanks should take a chance with this kid he can be AMAZING!!!!!!!

[LecheCaberera2826]

Also i saw that the RS 27th first round pick Jason Place went 0-5 with 5 SO's, I know he is young and you can't judge a young player like that, but not even Jon Potterson could do that!!!

[yankeetke]

Id say looking at all the problems that Tampa Bay has with numerous prospects something is obviously wrong with their minor league system. Maybe getting Dukes away from that enviroment will prove to be beneficial to his development and allow him to be a productive major leaguer.

[spiritof27]

Id say looking at all the problems that Tampa Bay has with numerous prospects something is obviously wrong with their minor league system. Maybe getting Dukes away from that enviroment will prove to be beneficial to his development and allow him to be a productive major leaguer.

Maybe it's not their system and simply the players. Perhaps their scouting on the makeup of players is poor or they disregard such reports and have just ended up with several bad apples. Either way, it doesn't do much for the outside look of the organization.

[LecheCaberera2826]

I have a ?? isn't Joel Guzman supposed to be in A ball not AAA, i thought he was playing for the Dodgers A ball team, now he is playing with durham.

[gdn]

I thought he was in AAA

[LecheCaberera2826]

I thought he was in AAA

Ok thought i saw at firstinning that he was in single A.

[shroud]

Also i saw that the RS 27th first round pick Jason Place went 0-5 with 5 SO's, I know he is young and you can't judge a young player like that, but not even Jon Potterson could do that!!!

Didn't Andy Phillips pull off a Golden sombrero with spurs last year?

[ryanm1058123]

Didn't Andy Phillips pull off a Golden sombrero with spurs last year?

didn't he have one against Kazmir? It was either 4 or 5Ks