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    Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    The players travelling 12 miles will be:

    to the Red Apples:
    AJ Burnett
    Khalil Greene
    Aaron Heilman
    Dioner Navarro

    to the Powerplant:
    Miguel Tejada
    Jason Isringhausen
    Joe Nathan
    Mike Piazza

    A pure keepers-for-non-keepers deal
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Greene's not a keeper -- not in the 4th round.
    Burnett would be an 8th rounder.
    Heilman an 18th rounder (but is a set-up man a keeper?)
    Navarro would be a 12th rounder (but do you spend a keeper on a C?)


    Tejada is unkeepable
    Isringhausen is a 2nd round keeper (Unlikely)
    Nathan is unkeepable
    Piazza is an 8th round keeper (Unlikely)


    So I see one keeper in the bunch -- Burnett.

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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Heilman will be in the rotation next year, which makes him a good keeper.
    Greene can be a keeper as well.

    Just because you may not want to keep someone at that position doesn't make them not a keeper.
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Stupid Flanders
    Heilman will be in the rotation next year, which makes him a good keeper.
    Greene can be a keeper as well.

    Just because you may not want to keep someone at that position doesn't make them not a keeper.
    Heilman might return to the rotation next year...there's no way anyone can say that he will. If he does, is he anything more than a #5 starter?

    And Greene is the #15 scoring SS right now. I wouldn't use a 4th round keeper on a #15 anything, who isn't a OF, SP or RP. But that's just me...

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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    It's no secret that the key was Burnett
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Flanders, can't you make any 1 for 1 or 2 for 1 deals? Why do you have to always complicate things with 7, 8 and 9 player deals? Then you complain that they get rejected.
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by miko
    Flanders, can't you make any 1 for 1 or 2 for 1 deals? Why do you have to always complicate things with 7, 8 and 9 player deals? Then you complain that they get rejected.
    Are there any objections to the deal yet?

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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Big_E
    Are there any objections to the deal yet?
    Yeah one or 2......
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Lame. You all had a shot at Tejada, Nathan and Izzy and offered me junk for them. Yeah I said it, JUNK.

    Screw it, I guess I'll keep them, trade for some non-keepers and skew the playoff push instead.
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Why do you guys keep voting things down without posting here with some sort of reasoning?

    Sheesh guys, man up and stop hiding in the shadows.
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    First of all Flanders, the rule was made this way so that trade objections wouldn't escalate into full blown mud slinging events. Secondly, if 8 or more people object, you really should ask yourself if the deal was actually fair in the first place. You seem to get along with everyone in here so it is not like people are rejecting it on purpose because you are a jerk or something.
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by miko
    First of all Flanders, the rule was made this way so that trade objections wouldn't escalate into full blown mud slinging events. Secondly, if 8 or more people object, you really should ask yourself if the deal was actually fair in the first place. You seem to get along with everyone in here so it is not like people are rejecting it on purpose because you are a jerk or something.
    I think they are rejecting it because they fear the Plant. Anyway, it's in the commish's hands now, and going by past precedent and reasons for overturning, I'm still fairly confident it will go through.

    Although if it doesn't it means I have no time to make any other trades, essentially.
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Actually come to think of it, I had a trade at last year's deadline voted down as well, and the fun part is, half the people thought it was biased one way and half the people the other.
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    So when can we expect a decision?
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Stupid Flanders
    Why do you guys keep voting things down without posting here with some sort of reasoning?

    Sheesh guys, man up and stop hiding in the shadows.
    welcome to the frustrating world of NYYFans FBB.

    It's done on purpose, people have their freedom and can choose to silently disagree. We used to have wars in here about trades. They went on for days.

    Maybe if you tell everyone to Cowboy Up instead of the cheap no frill ripoff version of it you said, you'll get some answers.
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman23
    welcome to the frustrating world of NYYFans FBB.

    It's done on purpose, people have their freedom and can choose to silently disagree. We used to have wars in here about trades. They went on for days.

    Maybe if you tell everyone to Cowboy Up instead of the cheap no frill ripoff version of it you said, you'll get some answers.
    or maybe I can start posting some of the ridiculous offers I've had since it went to a vote.

    I think I understand why people veto trades now....
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by yanksphan
    or maybe I can start posting some of the ridiculous offers I've had since it went to a vote.

    I think I understand why people veto trades now....
    ....because this trade was ridiculously unfair. There I said it. I manned up to it - or Cowboyed up to it - I rarely vote against trades in this league but with this one and the Squeak/Wolvie deal I chose to. Regardless, I voted against it as the keepers you were getting couldn't wipe the asses of the guys you were giving up.

    It's not like every trade goes to the commish's desk. As E pointed out to me a day ago - I made 8 trades so far this year. They all passed - I don't want to go tooting my own horn here but my trades ususally work out for both teams which is why they normally pass. This one does nothing for you Rob except land you Burnett with a bunch of other guys thrown in to make it look pretty. You are parting with your entire bullpen and the best SS in the league and a sweet assed C for a good SP (with injury problems in the past), a questionable RP, an average SS and a below average C.

    I apologize for going off like this but don't start dissing everyone's judgement in here if 8 or more people can find fault with this deal. I have worked on a ton of deals with many of the GM's here and can tell you that the people in here don't operate like that. You guys should be working on a counter offer in case this one doesn't go through.
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by yanksphan
    or maybe I can start posting some of the ridiculous offers I've had since it went to a vote.

    I think I understand why people veto trades now....
    On another note - it is not the proper way to go about things by posting people's trade offers in here - you could lose some respect from your fellow GM's and you could also find it hard to trade with people in the future.

    .....and if you are referring to the proposal which we talked about today I will post it myself. Hanley Ramirez & Ryan Shealy for Tejada and Peavy which is a hell of a lot better than the keepers you would be getting in your other 40 player deal but whatever like I said the trade only helps me by 7 points a week so it is useless for me to send you 2 good keepers for 35 points over the rest of the season.
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by miko
    On another note - it is not the proper way to go about things by posting people's trade offers in here - you could lose some respect from your fellow GM's and you could also find it hard to trade with people in the future.

    .....and if you are referring to the proposal which we talked about today I will post it myself. Hanley Ramirez & Ryan Shealy for Tejada and Peavy which is a hell of a lot better than the keepers you would be getting in your other 40 player deal but whatever like I said the trade only helps me by 7 points a week so it is useless for me to send you 2 good keepers for 35 points over the rest of the season.
    Obviously I wouldn't post the offers Miko. That should have had a after it.

    But seriously, an objection pops up, then I get an offer a few seconds later that was even worse!

    I wasn't talking about our discussion. Ours was just that - a discussion that hopefully would have lead to a good trade.

    Oh well...looks like the Apples' phone is ringing again...caller ID says Saxman Swingers
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Wait you mean people immediately try to trade for the same guys to whom they just objected?

    This is shocking behavior!
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    No different from MLB teams putting in a waiver claim on a player simply so he can't be traded to another team.

    See...we really ARE just like real baseball.

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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    I just got home from work. Due to the fact that the deadline is so close and I don't want the teams involved to have to hang in limbo, I'm not going to analyze this for days, sleep on it, and then write a thesus on it like the last trade that came my way. Translation: I'll have a decision shortly
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    Re: Powerplant and Neigbor to the North Complete Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by patrick.o
    I just got home from work. Due to the fact that the deadline is so close and I don't want the teams involved to have to hang in limbo, I'm not going to analyze this for days, sleep on it, and then write a thesus on it like the last trade that came my way. Translation: I'll have a decision shortly
    Thanks buddy.
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