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04-27-09 12:00 AM #4276
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Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
I am still not convinced this team will go anywhere. We have a 35 yr-old SS, while great offensively, has exposed himself defensively. Damon has no business playing the outfield with his arm. Our bullpen minus Bruney and Rivera is a complete mess. Gardner still hasn't proven he can hit so far this year. CC is not pitching like an ace and Wang is in Florida. All these coupled with the toughest division in baseball, I think we are doomed.
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04-27-09 12:00 AM #4277
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by ArodEra
All I can ask is this, what rotation isn't one pitcher away from being disastrous as you put it?
What more can you ask for from your GM then CC, Wang, AJ, Andy, and Joba, with Hughes waiting in the wings???
Should the Yankees be carrying 7 aces?
I have never in my life seen such absurd claims. To knock the Yankees rotation when on paper it is easily top 3 in the league, I can't help but to laugh.
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04-27-09 12:02 AM #4278
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by ArodEra
How are they a "seriously flawed" team? If you've watched the games you would be able the noticed that the starters aren't going deep enough into games on a consistent bases. And when that happens in baseball it exposes your middle relief.
Coming out of ST there was hardly anything "flawed" about this team. Other then the defense at certain positions was an issue.
As far as the bench again are you watching the games following the team? When Nady went down that effected the bench. All of a sudden Swisher is starting.
And when healthy no one on the bench is starting over Damon Jeter Teixeira Cano Posada Arod.
You know Molina Nady/Swisher Pena will spot start. but will not take the place of every day guys.
Getting freaking clue....
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04-27-09 12:04 AM #4279
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by JeterForPresident
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04-27-09 12:04 AM #4280
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by ArodEra
You say the rotation is one AJ injury away from being disastrous and I respond by saying that they have one of the best rotations money can buy and that any fan can ask for and you just go back with the personal insults.
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04-27-09 12:06 AM #4281
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by ArodEra
I don't prepare for the worst, I prepare for everything: winning, losing, triumph, heartbreak, rising to occasion, falling back to earth, the best, the worst, the works."Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose." - Ayrton Senna
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04-27-09 12:07 AM #4282
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04-27-09 12:09 AM #4283
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by TheMick@ND
I mean we have talent, but use it properly."Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose." - Ayrton Senna
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04-27-09 12:10 AM #4284
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by JeterForPresident
Without AJ, there's CC, Joba, and Pettitte. What has Joba proven for a full season and if Andy reverts to the tired Andy at the end of the season, what's left? What has Hughes proven at the major league level? If anything, Hughes has gone backwards. And this is the best rotation money can buy? "Buy" brings up another point - wasn't Cashman going to build a team where we don't have to "buy" players anyway.
Listen, if you can't take opposing views (same with your issues, responses and attacks of another member, JMGray), why put yourself through the angst of a baseball forum?
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04-27-09 12:15 AM #4285
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by ArodEra
Your claim that the rotation is one injury away from disaster wasn't really as simple as you made it seem.
What you are actually saying is that if AJ gets injured and if Andy starts pitching with a tired arm like he did last year, and if Joba struggles all season, then the rotation would be disastrous, and yea if all that stuff happened I would have no choice but to agree with you.
But in all fairness don't you think you are being incredibly negative to assume that everything that can go wrong will go wrong?
Also, I specifically brought up "money can buy" because I knew you would jump on that and attack Cashman for having the nerve to go out and sign the best players available, which is pretty standard for posters looking to just a rise out of others.
Lastly, as far as you accusing me of attacking a poster, I have posted here for years without complaints and my attacks are on the content of a post, not the posters. If not to disagree and discuss, what is the point of the message board?
And also, before you accuse me of attacking your pal JMGray, you should read the post in which he accuses me of living in Yemen for the past 5 years because I had the nerve to disagree with him.
What I said to him is that he shouldn't insult people while he posts, it would be far less childish that way.
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04-27-09 12:21 AM #4286
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by JeterForPresident
What I'm saying is that there is no empirical evidence that Joba will be the stud for a full season that you and I PRAY he will be. No knock on him, just a fact. Maybe he will to our delight.
And I'm just saying that given Pettitte's age and how he pitched at the end of last season, we have to be cautiously optimistic. Wang troubles me and Hughes has taken a few steps backwards, plus he seems to be injury prone. That leaves us with CC, who I think will pitch great, and a few, serious question marks, especially if AJ doesn't hold up. Better than last year, indeed, if all things go right!
But the pen, the OF, the bench and our overall defense worries me, so all things are going to have to go right with our starters, IMO.
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04-27-09 12:23 AM #4287
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by ArodEra
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04-27-09 12:26 AM #4288
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by JeterForPresident
Hey, New Yorkers are cynical by nature.
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04-27-09 12:30 AM #4289
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by JeterForPresident
I can yell at everyone and ................ including the Yankee club to play better, but it's out of my hands. It's up to them to make it happen."Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose." - Ayrton Senna
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04-27-09 12:43 AM #4290
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Is everyone ready for some football?
MLB on FOX blackouts - NO MORE!!
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04-27-09 12:47 AM #4291
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04-27-09 01:17 AM #4292
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by knickfan23
"Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose." - Ayrton Senna
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04-27-09 01:23 AM #4293
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
I expected to see some crap in here, and it's here.
This is simply too small a sample size to propogate out toward a full season.
Rivera blew a save badly; will happen once in a while (just as this one did seeing as he had a 0.00 ERA before this BS). Burnett gave up a lot of runs after he had a huge lead. That's happened before. To aces. Ellsbury stole home. That's happened before.
The idea that it happened in three games brings up the "Doomed" thing, that's all.You can not be serious.
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04-27-09 04:33 AM #4294
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by dadrumma
And some of your ideas are good but let's see what Hughes does on Tuesday before throwing him in the rotation. And let's see how long it takes Bruney to come back. Joba would be an 8th inning guy. From what I have seen Bruney makes a pretty good 8th inning guy. If Bruney's out for for the season(God I hope not) or he's not as good as he was when he comes back and Hughes is doing good as a starter then that might be a good idea.
And I'm not trying to bash you or nothin I'm just curious who do you expect to get bullpen wise for Melky?Still and will always be a New England Patriots fan.
[quote=THEBOSS84]You may be my favorite poster on the site. So sweet and innocent.[/quote]
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04-27-09 05:57 AM #4295
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Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
I never liked this thread and this is my first post. Yes, I do read it. But never thought I would post here. Not me.
Disgusted with the weekend series. Even A Rod return can not turn this team around. We really need a long reliever and mental toughness to get key hits. I know Kevin has done a great job with Cano over the Winter. I know these are PROFESSIONAL PLAYERS. But they suck RISP. Gardner got a sac, yesterday, and the previous day were like automatic outs.
Can we move back to the old stadium? Can we change hats? Can we trade Damon (partial trade in contract)? Can we bring back O'Neill to smack some heads? Can we burn a BoSox fan on the mound?
I feel Doomed.
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04-27-09 07:41 AM #4296
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by bucky
September 28, 2008 - the day the HOF got a wake-up Moose call.
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04-27-09 08:18 AM #4297
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04-27-09 08:30 AM #4298
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
No A-Rod
Tex is a slow starter
CC is a slow starter
Wang has not fully recovered from his injury and has pitched worse than if I had started in his place.
And yet the Yankees are 4 games behind a red hot Blue Jays team and 3 behind a red hot Red Sox team (winners of 10 straight).
Come May, the Yankees will have their best player back, Tex and CC will follow their career path of heating up after a slow April and either Wang will get fixed, or Hughes will take over that spot.
Toronto will come back to Earth, and the Red Sox will slow down.
Oh wait...wrong thread...Anonymous internet thread posters say the darndest things.
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04-27-09 08:44 AM #4299
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Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by justinvarnes
see, here's the problems I have with this-
Sabathia was 6-8 with a 3.83 ERA in the AL last year. The Sox have always hit him well, not to mention the fact that he's been a bust in the postseason in both leagues. His entire season last year was built on his time in the NL. The only real team he faced was the Cubs, and they beat him twice. With Teixiera...sure, he's a GG firstbaseman, but he hit 36 home runs and drove in 121 runs last year. Giambi hit 32 and drove in 96...pretty much a wash there. Abreu is an onbase machine, a guy you could pencil in for 20 SBs, 20 HRs, and 100 RBI on top of being an outstanding defensive OFer, and the Yankees let him walk to experiment with Nady in right.
However, the biggest issue is this- Cash is completely clueless when it comes to building a bullpen, and you win with a bullpen. The Sox have, at this point in the season, the deepest, most talented bullpen in the majors. They have a great closer, a guy who was a great closer before he got hurt and seems to be slowly getting it back, 2 guys with the stuff to be closers, a bunch of situational guys, and, when Masterson is out there, a guy who is capable of giving them shutdown long relief. Besides Rivera, what do the Yankees have...seriously? Sure, Bruney has shown potential, Coke has shown some flahes, and Mo is still Mo, but do you honestly think this team is going anywhere with this bullpen as constructed? CC ain't going out there and throwing complete game shutouts against the Sox, O's, and Rays' offenses. Something's gotta change and change quick if this team wants to seriously consider itself a championship contender this year.
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04-27-09 08:51 AM #4300
Re: The Official "We're Doomed" Thread
Originally Posted by justinvarnes
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