Some Love for Wright!

[YankeePride1967]

He's also had the following, none of which is technically a QS:

5.1IP/2ER (OAK)
5IP/0ER (BOS)
5IP/0ER (PHI)
5IP/1ER (TOR)
5.1IP/1ER (LAA)

Those are good starts to me, so that's 11 out of 22. The problem is he CONSISTENTLY burns the bullpen, a good/great 5-6 innings or not.

That is a problem any pitcher going that short does. Yes, the ER column is impressive, but to me a pitcher has to go AT LEAST 6 innings and 7 somewhat regularly for me to call him a good pitcher and worth being on the roster. I'm not a big fan of the quality start stat but there is a reason they have it 6 innings minimum and 3 ER maximum.

[4bronxbombers]

doesnt matter i still look like a royal doofus...

Well look at it this way - we got 6 pages out of it so far..............

[goin for 27]

Since a quality start is only 6 IP and 3 ER, that is awful. A quality should be easy to do more often than not.

I don't know about more often than not, if a starter makes 30 starts a year, and has more than 15 quality starts, he is damn good. (RJ has 13 QS in 28 starts this year)

That said, certainly 6 in a season to date is just not that good....

[TheBamTino24]

That is a problem any pitcher going that short does. Yes, the ER column is impressive, but to me a pitcher has to go AT LEAST 6 innings and 7 somewhat regularly for me to call him a good pitcher and worth being on the roster.

I definitely see the logic in this. Because even if Wright gives you an impressive 5 shutout innings, you still have to get 4 innings from the bullpen. Every single time he's pitched, we have needed at least 3 innings from the bullpen.

That's lunacy indeed.

[YankeePride1967]

I definitely see the logic in this. Because even if Wright gives you an impressive 5 shutout innings, you still have to get 4 innings from the bullpen. Every single time he's pitched, we have needed at least 3 innings from the bullpen.

That's lunacy indeed.

Exactly, even if you allow 0 runs over 5, that's still 4 innings someone else has to pitch well in.

[EnricoPalazzo]

if pavanocan pitch than wright shouldnt see the mound again this year unless it is the jay witasik role.

this guy is just killing the team right now. his 5 inning starts hurt the team more than they help it. he kills the bullpen for a week.

[4bronxbombers]

I definitely see the logic in this. Because even if Wright gives you an impressive 5 shutout innings, you still have to get 4 innings from the bullpen. Every single time he's pitched, we have needed at least 3 innings from the bullpen.

That's lunacy indeed.

Wright should be psychoanalyzed to find out why he can't go past 5 innings in each of his starts. Needing 3 innings from the bullpen each time he pitches is almost a given each time.

[goin for 27]

He's also had the following, none of which is technically a QS:

5.1IP/2ER (OAK)
5IP/0ER (BOS)
5IP/0ER (PHI)
5IP/1ER (TOR)
5.1IP/1ER (LAA)

Those are good starts to me, so that's 11 out of 22. The problem is he CONSISTENTLY burns the bullpen, a good/great 5-6 innings or not.

I can't call 5 IP starts good starts. These starts lead to burned out bullpens, and the Yanks are paying that price right now. (Not Wright alone, of course, but he contributed mightily)

You simply cannot start 22 games, appear in 3 others, and have a total of 110.2 IP. That is four and a half innings per outing.

[EnricoPalazzo]

those starts you cited seem to have been from a long time ago.

[TheBamTino24]

Wright should be psychoanalyzed to find out why he can't go past 5 innings in each of his starts. Needing 3 innings from the bullpen each time he pitches is almost a given each time.

It must be his arm. He has had so many injuries with that thing, it is probably always an issue. That's why his stats are so awful after a certain number of pitches - because his arm just doesn't have the capability to be strong and lend itself to quality pitches.

He's awful with pitches 1-15 while his arm warms (1.046 OPS) and then pitches 94+ he has an OPS of .944.

Let him spot start in September when we have a deeper bullpen. He can give our Big 3 some rest while we caddy him with the likes of Aaron Small, TJ Beam and Jose Veras.

FWIW:
20.1 of Villone's 73.1 IP this season have come in Wright's starts.
24.1 of Proctor's 83.2 IP this season have come in Wright's starts.

[indianyanksfan]

Well look at it this way - we got 6 pages out of it so far..............

so along with being a doofus, i'm an instigator to boot...

[Yankeesfan811]

for some reason, Wright can never finish the hitter off. He always seems to work the count to 3-2 on EVERY hitter. This is why he can't get past the 6th inning. He always seams to have thrown 90 pitches then. He needs to go after the hitter in a pitcher's count. He needs to throw that good two seemer more often. It moves in on right-handed hitters and away from lefties....

[yanksphan]

for some reason, Wright can never finish the hitter off. He always seems to work the count to 3-2 on EVERY hitter. This is why he can't get past the 6th inning. He always seams to have thrown 90 pitches then. He needs to go after the hitter in a pitcher's count. He needs to throw that good two seemer more often. It moves in on right-handed hitters and away from lefties....

Actually, to expand on that, I noticed this last outing he actually went 0-2 on the majority of those 3-2 counts.

Guy needs an out pitch for sure.

[cmaff05]

Actually, to expand on that, I noticed this last outing he actually went 0-2 on the majority of those 3-2 counts.

Guy needs an out pitch for sure.

I don't know if TJ surgery ruined him or not or if he didn't have good secondary stuff in the firrst place.. but his secondary stuff is just extremely unconvincing. His slider has no bite to it.. his outpitch is his fastball.. and most of the times they'll just foul it off.

[BigCheese]

for some reason, Wright can never finish the hitter off. He always seems to work the count to 3-2 on EVERY hitter. This is why he can't get past the 6th inning. He always seams to have thrown 90 pitches then. He needs to go after the hitter in a pitcher's count. He needs to throw that good two seemer more often. It moves in on right-handed hitters and away from lefties....

It's not unlike the decline of Al Leiter we saw... goes 0-2, then foul, foul, foul, foul, foul... shallow hit... pretty soon, he has a high pitch count and some runners on the bases. No out pitch.

[TEPLimey]

No. 5 starter = Wright + Karstens