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05-03-06 07:04 AM #1
Skipping Chacon's turn
How does everyone else feel about the Yanks skipping Shawn Chacon's turn in the rotation? I think its a bad move, because Shawn has been very, very good in his last few starts. I know Wright pitched good enough to win last Friday, but still, I think he should be the one getting skipped over. The Yankees need Shawn Chacon more than they need Jaret Wright.
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05-03-06 07:06 AM #2
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Chacon is getting his groove on as of late, no way should he be skipped.
(Disclaimer: This post not subject to the irony of statements like 'Be careful what you wish for'. I will not be bitten in the ass without prior written consent)
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05-03-06 07:08 AM #3
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I just hope he shakes off his rust by coming out of the pen in the next few games... I would have preferred Chaq over Wright...
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05-03-06 07:12 AM #4Devoted Member
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Re: Skipping Chacon's turn
I thought you guys were joking or something. This is actually true? In what universe does Torre think Wright is a better option than Chacon? It's ridiculous.
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05-03-06 07:13 AM #5
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This is the Right move because it lines up RJ, Moose and Chacon for the Red Sox next week. Otherwise, Wright would have to pitch against Boston. Also, Wright was going to pitch this week anyway, and I'd rather see Chacon face Texas than Jaret.
So I don't see this as skipping Chacon, since he will pitch this weekend. This lines things up better for Boston.Oh man....
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05-03-06 07:18 AM #6Released Outright
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Re: Skipping Chacon's turn
uh
Originally Posted by hardrain
WED: Wright
THU: RJ
FRI: Moose
SAT: Wang
SUN: Chacon
OFF
TUE: RJ
WED: Moose
THU: Wang
how is that good for Chacon? giving him a ton of extra rest isnt good for him, hell let him pitch on shortish rest on sunday if they have to.
this is retarded
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05-03-06 07:21 AM #7
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No - Chacon will pitch against the Sox. This isn't "retarded," it's a rare good move by Joe - happens once in awhile. wang pitches Sunday, not Saturday
Originally Posted by 38Special
Oh man....
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05-03-06 07:24 AM #8
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People should learn all the facts before making claims. If they didn't do this, when Wright pitched against Boston everyone would be bitching.
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05-03-06 07:25 AM #9Released Outright
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Re: Skipping Chacon's turn
the rotation is RJ, Moose, Wang, Chacon, Wright. What did i do wrong? Joe is adjusting the rotation putting Chacon there on saturday and Wang on sunday. If they had just done it normally...
Originally Posted by hardrain
WED: Chacon
THU: RJ
FRI: Moose
SAT: Wang
SUN: Wright or whomever
OFF
TUE: RJ
WED: Moose
THU: Chacon or Wang
There's no scenario where Wright would have pitched against Boston
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05-03-06 07:27 AM #10
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05-03-06 07:29 AM #11NYYF Legend

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Re: Skipping Chacon's turn
Chacon will pitch Saturday, not Sunday. Wang will be moved back a day.
Originally Posted by 38Special
Wright has already been skipped or pushed back twice before, so I'd guess Torre wanted to avoid a third time. Sooner or later, he needs to find out if Wright is going to be able to contribute, otherwise it's Aaron Small time. I'm not sure the Sox series had anything to do with it. I doubt Torre is scrambling his rotation for a series with the Sox in early May.
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05-03-06 07:31 AM #12NYYF MVP

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Re: Skipping Chacon's turn
It seems as if he is only b/c of the Wang/Chacon flip in the Texas series. And it is a good move. Wang just faced the Sox and wasn't very successful (though he wasn't awful either), so Joe is right in giving Chacon his chance to face them.
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05-03-06 07:34 AM #13Released Outright
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Chacon is one of our starting pitchers. Wright is a ................ty pitcher who anyone with a brain would know is going to fail at this point. Why would we give Chacon a ton of extra rest at this point? He didnt benefit from this happening earlier in the year anyway
Originally Posted by Spiker101
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05-03-06 07:59 AM #14
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38...another reason why you are wrong here is if Chacon were to pitch tonight, then he wouldn't pitch until next thursday, since they are not going to screw with RJ and Moose's turns...If you got your way, Chacon would have 8 days rest going into the Sox series; this way he pitches on 4 days rest going into the Boston series.
Originally Posted by 38Special
Oh man....
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05-03-06 08:11 AM #15NYYF Legend

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The Yanks are going to need a fifth starter. Torre needs to find one. I personally doubt it's going to be Wright, but because of injury issues he gets the first crack at it. It's not an ideal situation but the manager's job is the make the most of whatever problems arise. Look at it this way, when Wright fails miserably tonight, it'll mean he's that much closer to being DFA'd which seems to be everyone's fondest desire around here.
Originally Posted by 38Special
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05-03-06 08:16 AM #16NYYF Legend

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I agree with you that it's preferable to have Chacon rather than Wang face the Sox next week, but I think Torre's reshuffling here is more about keeping his two aces on regular work and doing so with the minimal amount of fiddling with the other three members of the (current) rotation.
Originally Posted by suha
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05-03-06 08:35 AM #17
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Chacon needs to start on a consistant basis, look at his track record this year. He was skipped earlier and came out of the pen, then started and pitched like crap. He was starting to get into a groove, dont mess with a good thing. Is Wright starting so they can justify the 7mill/year he is getting. I know its early but wouldnt RJ & Moose benefit from an extra day?
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05-03-06 08:38 AM #18
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For those of you who don't mind hearing the official story ...
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/NASAp...=.jsp&c_id=nyyWright, who has made just two starts this season, flew ahead to Tampa on Tuesday. In his last start, Wright allowed four runs in five innings, showing a little more consistency than he had in his first two appearances of the season.
... [Torre said] "[Wright] pitched well last time, so I want to see two starts in a row, see if we can get something going with him."
Chacon's next start will come on Saturday in Texas, as the Yankees didn't want to push Randy Johnson and Mike Mussina, who are scheduled to start Thursday and Friday, back beyond their regular five-day schedule.
"We don't want to mess with Randy and Moose," Torre said. "Later in the year, when the extra day may have helped, it probably would have been easier to work it. Right now, Moose had his throw day today, which sets him up to pitch on the fifth day."
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05-03-06 08:45 AM #19Released Outright
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Re: Skipping Chacon's turn
RJ and Moose wouldnt be off their schedule YOU JUST SKIP WRIGHT
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05-03-06 08:46 AM #20Released Outright
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Wrong, he could just as easily pitch on one day's less rest. It's certainly better than the 500 days of rest he has now and a start of ................ty ................ing wright
Originally Posted by hardrain
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05-03-06 08:54 AM #21
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Now you want to pitch Chacon on short rest, in early May, when we're dealing with tons of off days and a rain out...Geez....
Originally Posted by 38Special
As far as Wright being ...........ty. At least he is out there trying, unlike your buddy Pavano.Oh man....
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05-03-06 09:03 AM #22Released Outright
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Oh wow, shots at Pavano. How infantile!
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05-03-06 09:05 AM #23
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I'd like to see Chacon stay in line, but the bigger issue is keeping Johnson, Mussina and Wang on their regular rest. If that means skipping Wright, so be it.
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05-03-06 09:14 AM #24NYYF Legend

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Re: Skipping Chacon's turn
Joe Torre is pissing me off more and more lately. Forgetting the fact that Jarrett Wright is absolutley worthless, why would he disrupt the recent momentum Chacon has been generating?
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05-03-06 09:17 AM #25
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Come on Joe get your head in the game. Wright should be skipped, not Chacon. How many games are you going to cost the Yankees??????
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