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    BTW - does anybody else think it's ridiculous for the bullpens to empty during these fights? By the time they get there, it's over.
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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    Does Torre still determine length of suspensions in cases like this? That could be interesting.

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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    Quentin should be suspended as long as Greinke is injured. Jeter's been plunked 163 times in his career, and has never charged the mound after being hit. I guess there's more than a two-letter difference between class and ass.

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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    To be fair, Jeter would probably get his ass kicked in just about any fight with a pitcher, unless it was like Clay Bucholz or something.

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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Big_E View Post
    Quentin should be suspended as long as Greinke is injured. Jeter's been plunked 163 times in his career, and has never charged the mound after being hit. I guess there's more than a two-letter difference between class and ass.
    That's what Mattingly said and I disagree. Greinke added to his own injury by not taking evasive action against Quentin. He lowered his shoulder as if trying to flip him. This isn't the NFL. Physically, he is no match for Quentin. He should have backtracked.

    In 2010, the Cards and Reds had a brawl and Reds pitcher Johnny Cueto began kicking players during the fight. He kicked St. Louis catcher Jason LaRue and gave him a concussion which ended LaRue's career. Cueto got a 7 games suspension which translated to one start.

    Quentin gets 6 maybe 7 games..

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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by LongtimeNYYFan View Post
    That's what Mattingly said and I disagree. Greinke added to his own injury by not taking evasive action against Quentin. He lowered his shoulder as if trying to flip him. This isn't the NFL. Physically, he is no match for Quentin. He should have backtracked.

    In 2010, the Cards and Reds had a brawl and Reds pitcher Johnny Cueto began kicking players during the fight. He kicked St. Louis catcher Jason LaRue and gave him a concussion which ended LaRue's career. Cueto got a 7 games suspension which translated to one start.

    Quentin gets 6 maybe 7 games..
    He also should have kept his mouth shut. A lightweight should expect the worst if he gets into it with a heavyweight.

    I remember that fight - it seems like it was many years ago. Absolute tragedy.
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    Wait, what? Greinke defended himself. Damn... YOu can't stand there on national tv and in front of 40K fans and run away like a little pansy.

    It was pretty clear to me he said "dive" to Quentin before he charged the mound. And he did. No attempt to move at all and you can't get annoyed when you've been plunked over a hundred times in your career. Just take your base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman23 View Post
    Wait, what? Greinke defended himself. Damn... YOu can't stand there on national tv and in front of 40K fans and run away like a little pansy.

    It was pretty clear to me he said "dive" to Quentin before he charged the mound. And he did. No attempt to move at all and you can't get annoyed when you've been plunked over a hundred times in your career. Just take your base.
    I agree with this 100%. It's not Greinke's fault that he defended himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pleasepassthesoup View Post
    I agree with this 100%. It's not Greinke's fault that he defended himself.
    In his position there was nothing else to do. Quentin is 100% wrong here.
    Boo for trading Prado.

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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    I wonder if the SF Giants will send Quentin a gift basket?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoVaughnEatsAlot View Post
    To be fair, Jeter would probably get his ass kicked in just about any fight with a pitcher, unless it was like Clay Bucholz or something.
    He's 6'4 200+, I think he'd be able to handle himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic View Post
    He's 6'4 200+, I think he'd be able to handle himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
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    He could try that, too.
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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman23 View Post
    Wait, what? Greinke defended himself. Damn... YOu can't stand there on national tv and in front of 40K fans and run away like a little pansy.
    Although that would be amusing to watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_E View Post
    Quentin should be suspended as long as Greinke is injured. Jeter's been plunked 163 times in his career, and has never charged the mound after being hit. I guess there's more than a two-letter difference between class and ass.
    I think he'll get 7 games and it will be moved to 5. I think that's fair. Kemp should get a game or two for confronting Quention after the game too. JHJ I think should just get a token fine.

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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    First of all it did not look like an intentional plunking to me, and the batter made no effort to get out of the way. If an opposing batter took out one of our better starters for two months, Yankee fans would rightfully be bs. I hope Joe Torre gives Quentin the max, and he deserves a lot more than the players association agreement allows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Messerwhitescooter View Post
    First of all it did not look like an intentional plunking to me, and the batter made no effort to get out of the way. If an opposing batter took out one of our better starters for two months, Yankee fans would rightfully be bs. I hope Joe Torre gives Quentin the max, and he deserves a lot more than the players association agreement allows.
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    But there was no silver lining for Lee, who suffered a torn capsule and a ligament tear in his throwing shoulder. His left arm was in a sling and his left eye was blackened when he showed up at the Stadium the following night. "I don't think the Yankees started the fight to get to me,” he said, "but once it started, I know there were a few Yankees looking for me. My opinions may have caught up with themselves.”

    Lee returned to the team late that summer, but he was never again as effective. After winning 17 games in each of the three previous seasons and carrying a 3-0 lead into the sixth inning of Game 7 in the 1975 World Series, the free spirit nicknamed "Spaceman” finished 1976 with a record of 5-7. He won a total of 19 games for the Red Sox in 1977 and 1978 before being traded to Montreal, where he compiled a 25-22 record in his last four big-league seasons.
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    Yeah because Nettles charged the mound after being hit unintentionally.
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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

    I think this baseball news item (Greinke/Quentin incident) may have warranted its own thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee View Post
    Yeah because Nettles charged the mound after being hit unintentionally.
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    just saw this fight and all i have to say is that quentin is a dumbass
    always reasonable

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    Don't feel bad that you didn't remember the incident correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    just saw this fight and all i have to say is that quentin is a dumbass
    Pretty much this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    just saw this fight and all i have to say is that quentin is a dumbass
    seriously what an idiot lol

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    Re: Interesting Baseball News Items That Do Not Warrant Their Own Thread

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    The New York Times is reporting that MLB, rebuffed in its attempts to get Biogenesis documents from the Miami New Times, is now paying an ex-Biogenesis employee for documents relating to the case.

    Which is interesting enough. Making it even more fascinating: according to the report, the league has taken this step after learning that a player named in documents has purchased documents from a former clinic employee in order to destroy them.

    The New York Times has no idea about the identity of that player. Among those named in the Biogenesis documents were Alex Rodriguez, Ryan Braun, Gio Gonzalez, Melky Cabrera and Nelson Cruz.

    The Times reports that MLB has provided payments to multiple former Biogenesis employees who have cooperated with its investigation. According to the Times: “The payments were for the time they provided to the investigators,” and “were not believed to have exceeded several thousand dollars.”

    While MLB is well within its rights to pay the ex-employees, there is the concern that said payments would make the employees easily attackable witnesses in case they’re called to testify in any lawsuits.

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    Verrrrrry interesting


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