4/4/06: Torre gives away the game (merged)

[Mark19]

3-3 tie, Farnsworth has only thrown 10 pitches, Mo is fresh and Torre decides to use a guy whose just endured a family emergency and has exclusively started in March.

[keithf1]

I figure I'd start this thread. Why is Joe Torre pitching Scott Proctor in a tie ball game when Kyle Farnsworth looked great on those 2 batters? We also have a guy named Mariano if need be . 2nd game of the season but that was pretty awful to stay up and watch. I'm glad Proctor had a good spring but why is he in this ball game?

THOUGHTS ON THIS MOVE?

[JamieMadrox]

most retarded move ever. farnsworth should've pitched the inning. if not proctor, where was grand tanyon? where was ron villone? how is scott proctor, the guy who gave up about 53 games last year, the choice? i know sometimes torre gains a guy's trust, but what the ................ has proctor EVER done to earn his trust? why do we keep using this ................ing bum? release him already.

[indianyanksfan]

sucked. i knew we would lose. he's not a good reliever.

every win is important.

last year was a dog fight. they cant put themselves in that position by giving away games.

they gave this game away.

[Vin]

Farnsworth should've been the one who pitched not Proctor. Real smart.

[AMYanks]

It's a move that makes absolutely no sense, what so ever.

Thus, that's why Clueless Joe did it.

[The Dynasty]

most retarded move ever. farnsworth should've pitched the inning. if not proctor, where was grand tanyon? where was ron villone? how is scott proctor, the guy who gave up about 53 games last year, the choice? i know sometimes torre gains a guy's trust, but what the ................ has proctor EVER done to earn his trust? why do we keep using this ................ing bum? release him already.

Well, I'm figuring that Tanyon and Villone were out of the question since they pitched yesterday. Farnsworth was the most logical choice to come back out, but hey, you live you learn (hopefully )

[Jace]

The bunt was stupid, but there was no reason whatsoever to put Proctor in. Villone was very available as well. Proctor has failed explosively in this exact situation before and I'm sure he remembers it and it affects him.

Burly Kyle Farnsworth better just learn to pitch 9 outs at a time and save Proctor from Torre.

[Rich]

It's just Joe being Joe.

[keithf1]

Let's hope we live and learn. I don't want to be giving away games this year. We dedicated an entire offseason to improving the bullpen and Scott Proctor is in there with the game on the line.

[Mark19]

Cashman gives out $25 million in contracts to effective FA relievers and Torre uses a AAA starter in a tie game ---- it boggles the mind.

[bleachersown]

This was a very bad move. I was listening to the game and i told my roommate that Farnsworth should AT LEAST pitch another inning before we think about bringing anyone else into the game. Sterling mentioned the weather (cold) being a possible factor for Torre taking Kyle out.

[Bernie Inferno]

As I said in the Game Thread when Scott was warming up: "Proctor and Gamble"

[indianyanksfan]

i dont care how good the offense is.

we cant give away games.

last year were were lucky.

we cant dig that big a hole and expect to come out of it. this is an old team.

every player has been saying they need to get off to a good start and it's the manager who puts a damper in that plan.

[Jace]

As has been said everywhere else, he hadn't pitched in many days cause his daughter was very sick. Today was the 1st day he was available. Glad Torre made sure he got his innings in.

[puckmaster87]

Farnsworth should've stayed in or Sturtze should've gone in. Not a guy who only God knows where his mind is right now.

[brosiusbuddy]

Heres another line to run with... as long as we're bashing the Skipper, lets bash the Juggernaut too. Arod, 0-2 tonight with the chance to put the Yanks ahead late in a close game.

[nyg02005]

they are still not convinced that proctor is more valuable as a SP than a reliever otherwise he would not be in the 25 man roster. Proctor as a reliever is an indictment to bean and smith.

[keithf1]

Can we make the managerial decisions here online through a panel and text message Jeter to call them out during the games?

[knickfan23]

This game and performance reminds me of a thread a read that ran last year.

http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread...16#post2607516

Didnt take long for him to get started didnt it?

[NYYBombshell]

How many threads on how much Torre blows chunks do we need?

[yankees27]

That was one of the most idiotic moves ever. First, they said they were gonna make him a starter, so why the ................ is he in the pen? Second, his daughter had heart surgery today, I wouldn't expect the guy's mind to be completely focussed on the game. Third, he failed in the same bottom of the 9th, 10th etc. situation last season. Fourth, Farnsworth only threw 10 pitches. Why the hell was he in there?

[Mattpat11]

Proctor needs to be cut.

[BroadwayBomber55]

Heres another line to run with... as long as we're bashing the Skipper, lets bash the Juggernaut too. Arod, 0-2 tonight with the chance to put the Yanks ahead late in a close game.

You can't win games when you have your LOB # higher than runs scored.

A-Rod is tryin' to do way too much. He has the ability to hit the ball to CF and RF. Use it. He doesn't have to hit to LF to give the Yankees the lead.

[NYDCYankee]

Heres another line to run with... as long as we're bashing the Skipper, lets bash the Juggernaut too. Arod, 0-2 tonight with the chance to put the Yanks ahead late in a close game.

Don't forget the first inning either.