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    Pavano Progress Report

    The Hartford Courant has an update today from Pavano:

    http://www.courant.com/sports/baseba...lines-baseball

    This is my favorite quote:

    "I grew up in an Italian family," Pavano said. "So I can appreciate brutal honesty. I'm as hard on myself when things go badly. You don't accomplish anything by lying to yourself about what's going on. They're the greatest fans in the world. Win or lose, they're always there for us."

    Here's hoping Carl is the comeback king of '06!

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    Re: Pavano Progress Report

    He put up some pretty bad numbers in the NL. I wonder how they will be after a full season in the AL
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    Re: Pavano Progress Report

    Here's hoping that Carl stays healthy and bounces back with 20 wins for the Pinstripers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty one
    Here's hoping that Carl stays healthy and bounces back with 20 wins for the Pinstripers.
    I'll take 10 quality starts. Gotta crawl before you can walk.

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    Heres hoping he gets traded or somehow puts up his 2004 numbers again

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    Re: Pavano Progress Report

    Pavano can be a good pitcher/15game winner, if he stays healthy. That's the bottom line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genius-24
    Pavano can be a good pitcher/15game winner, if he stays healthy. That's the bottom line.
    he has only been healthy and good in one fluke season

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeterRodriguezSheff
    he has only been healthy and good in one fluke season
    People seem to forget this... Not to mention, it was the NL and in a great pitchers park.
    “I mean, people knew that Brown was out there, and that Randy was ornery all the time. And Pavano is whoever he is. But if you’re their manager, you can’t go out and write about them like that.

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    You know, I would have a lot more empathy for Pavano if I had any clue what his injury actually was from day one. He goes does with a mystery ailness (out for 6 months with "rotator cuff tendonitis? come on...) when we are in desperate need of starter and the disappears for the season without so much as a by-your-leave. While I don't truly believe he was a "quitter" or "baby" (maybe he lacked a "bellyful of guts"?) his actions do make him appear that way to a less-forgiving fan. Even Kevin Brown pitched through extreme pain to try to give us innings.

    In fairness, I understand that the organization has to (a) protect Carl's privacy and; (b) preserve his trade value. As a result, it may not be in their best interests to keep the public informed.
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    Re: Pavano Progress Report

    I'd rather Pavano have a "mystery ailment" and not pitch, than pitch with back spasms and give up 5 runs in the first two innings and take up a roster spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdn
    I'd rather Pavano have a "mystery ailment" and not pitch, than pitch with back spasms and give up 5 runs in the first two innings and take up a roster spot.
    Exactly, and then get nothing out of our 40 million for the next 3 years.

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    I know people are have an ability to hate their own players. The worst evidence is Arod. But I think he will do well, I see no reason to to be pessimistic about our own players. He is not the bum everyone makes him out to be. Hopefully he also needed that year to get use to NY and now he can excel to his personal limits.

    I just don;t get why everyone has given up on him already

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo
    I know people are have an ability to hate their own players. The worst evidence is Arod. But I think he will do well, I see no reason to to be pessimistic about our own players. He is not the bum everyone makes him out to be. Hopefully he also needed that year to get use to NY and now he can excel to his personal limits.

    I just don;t get why everyone has given up on him already
    I think its because on his career as a whole he has been a mediocre to decent pitcher in the NL, perhaps after some adjustment he can improve to decent in the AL. The other concern for me is that he is a guy who gets balls put in play and until our defense proves their worth it will be tough for him to succeed here. I hope he does extremely well however and I only wish him traded if it nets a very good RF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo
    I know people are have an ability to hate their own players. The worst evidence is Arod. But I think he will do well, I see no reason to to be pessimistic about our own players. He is not the bum everyone makes him out to be. Hopefully he also needed that year to get use to NY and now he can excel to his personal limits.

    I just don;t get why everyone has given up on him already
    This page will tell you why

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/NASAp...321&statType=2

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    I am hoping for the best. He's still young enough to be great for us.

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    Time will obviously tell but I like his optimism. Carl was brought here for a reason and the injury bug bit quite a few players last year. This team will be much better than last year if all the pieces fall into place................
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    Re: Pavano Progress Report

    Quote Originally Posted by gdn
    I'd rather Pavano have a "mystery ailment" and not pitch, than pitch with back spasms and give up 5 runs in the first two innings and take up a roster spot.
    Whose roster spot was Brown taking, exactly? I'd much rather a guy try to earn his money when the team needs a starter than sit at home with a fairly minor injury.

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    As much as Id like to believe Pavano will be healthy this year Im sure hes going to break down before Sept. You heard it here first, Pavano is a present day Weaver.

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    Re: Pavano Progress Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Mattpat11
    Whose roster spot was Brown taking, exactly? I'd much rather a guy try to earn his money when the team needs a starter than sit at home with a fairly minor injury.
    Really? Brown didn't cost us any games at all? Huh... my bad.

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    Re: Pavano Progress Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Arod for President
    As much as Id like to believe Pavano will be healthy this year Im sure hes going to break down before Sept. You heard it here first, Pavano is a present day Weaver.

    And what evidence do you cite in making this claim Karnak the Magnificent?
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    Re: Pavano Progress Report

    Quote Originally Posted by gdn
    Really? Brown didn't cost us any games at all? Huh... my bad.
    Of course he did. But when the team needed him most, he tried. More than I can say for some people.

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    Re: Pavano Progress Report

    Quote Originally Posted by DandyAndy46
    And what evidence do you cite in making this claim Karnak the Magnificent?
    I thought Weaver was the present day Weaver.

    Honestly though, he's gotten hurt every year except one. Its like JD Drew. Smart money says he'll get hurt at some point.

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    Re: Pavano Progress Report

    Brown had less at stake - he was at the end of his career anyway.Pavano still has a long time to go, not the least of which is 3 more years on this contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DandyAndy46
    And what evidence do you cite in making this claim Karnak the Magnificent?
    Are you familiar with Pavano's career?

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