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    Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Cashman at various times has proclaimed that he has no intention of trading either Cano, Wang, or even Pavano. Has he ever said anything about Chacon? I think we can all take his statements with a grain of salt since anything he says might just be a ploy. One fact however, is self evident. The Yankees have 6 starting pitchers vying for 5 spots going into the season ( 7 if you add Small to the mix). Someone has to go. Ideally you'd like to trade Pavano (not great trade value), or Wright (poorer trade value). Of all the candidates, Wang probably has the highest trade value, but Chacon certainly enhanced his value a great deal last season. In a perfect world, I'd love to see the Yankees trade Wright and prospects for a CF and bullpen help, but the cold, hard fact is that Cashman will have to trade someone he doesn't really want to trade, for players the team really needs.
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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    I love Chacon, I don't want to part with him. However, if the Yankees can get a young, solid on both offense and defense centerfielder with a cheap salary, then I might be ok with it.
    Anyone know such a centerfielder?

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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankeeah
    I love Chacon, I don't want to part with him. However, if the Yankees can get a young, solid on both offense and defense centerfielder with a cheap salary, then I might be ok with it.
    Anyone know such a centerfielder?
    I'm thinking his name is Aaron Rowand. I say keep Shawn unless we can use him to fleece a team out of some top player(s)/prospects.
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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Quote Originally Posted by DontHateOnNumber2
    I'm thinking his name is Aaron Rowand. I say keep Shawn unless we can use him to fleece a team out of some top player(s)/prospects.
    For as good as his defense is, for me to be ok with in trading Shawn, I would like someone a little better with the bat.

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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    If we trade Chacon then who's gonna replace him for next year?
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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    I'd rather not trade Chacon. He showed some valuable traits last year. We need more pitchers like him. Not to mention the fact that he pitched lights out.

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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    The way the yankees are going in the offseason and cashman telling people he wants to cut payrolls, chacon and small are more untouchable than wright or pavano.

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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    I don't know why, but it wouldn't shock me, if he went in a package to Seattle for Ichiro.
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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Quote Originally Posted by JfromJersey
    The Yankees have 6 starting pitchers vying for 5 spots going into the season ( 7 if you add Small to the mix). Someone has to go. .
    The questions surrounding Wright, Pavano, and Wang's health, Pavano's heart, and the liklihood of Moose/RJ missing starts and/or spending time on the DL make it prudent to carry six starters into ST.



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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Quote Originally Posted by JfromJersey
    I don't know why, but it wouldn't shock me, if he went in a package to Seattle for Ichiro.
    That would be so dumb its not even funny.
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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Nobody's untouchable, but he's young, he's cheap, and his performance improved dramatically after his breaking stuff was liberated from the Colorado Himalayas. I know his K/9 and K/BB rates scare some people, and mid-rotation status may indeed be his ceiling, but given the number of pricey MASH-unit types that populate our staff, I wonder why he's considered so expendable.
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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Quote Originally Posted by hellonewman
    Nobody's untouchable, but he's young, he's cheap, and his performance improved dramatically after his breaking stuff was liberated from the Colorado Himalayas. I know his K/9 and K/BB rates scare some people, and mid-rotation status may indeed be his ceiling, but given the number of pricey MASH-unit types that populate our staff, I wonder why he's considered so expendable.
    I'd trade him but I don't see who's gonna replace his production on our staff next year.
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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    No. I like the guy but am still a bit concerned with his K rate and K/BB rate. I'd deal him in the right trade.
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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffWeaverFan
    No. I like the guy but am still a bit concerned with his K rate and K/BB rate. I'd deal him in the right trade.
    JWF, let's say the right deal comes along and we deal him, who's gonna replace his production in the starting staff next year?
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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    healthy wright, pavano and a full season out of wang should do it.

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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    The Yankees can't afford to give up all of their affordable assets for expensive players.

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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ojo
    healthy wright
    You lost me right there.
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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Quote Originally Posted by hellonewman
    You lost me right there.
    "Wright" Did it for me.
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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Chacon, Small, and Sierra are all untouchable.

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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Trading Chacon would be awful unless the Yankees can use him to acquire a #1 pitcher. The guy came in the middle of a bad situation and was a huge part in turning the team around. I can't wait to see what he does with a full season of work.

    Chacon was a diamond in the rough, and the Yankees should feel privileged to have such a quality pitcher for such a low price.

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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sierra Mist
    Chacon, Small, and Sierra are all untouchable.


    Neither of those 3 are untouchable, esp. not Small and Sierra.

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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sierra Mist
    Chacon, Small, and Sierra are all untouchable.
    No one would touch Sierra anyway, so that doesn't matter.

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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Quote Originally Posted by IncredibleByNature


    Neither of those 3 are untouchable, esp. not Small and Sierra.
    all I gotta say about Small is "10-0h my goodness"

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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sierra Mist
    all I gotta say about Small is "10-0h my goodness"
    Any cute nicknames for Sierra?

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    Re: Is Chacon considered "untouchable"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sierra Mist
    all I gotta say about Small is "10-0h my goodness"
    It doesn't matter if went 30-0, he is NOT untouchable.

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