+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 25 of 28
-
06-12-05 02:44 PM #1
Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
The losing is taking it's toll.
He continued:Piniella said the New York-based owners who bought a controlling share of the perennially poor-performing franchise a year ago don't seem to care about Tampa Bay's current on-field product.
"They're not interested in the present, they're interested in the future. And that's their right," he said. "But when other teams are getting better presently, you're going to get your butts beat and that's exactly what's happening."
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2083511"I'm not going to take responsibility for this," Piniella said in pregame remarks to reporters. "If I had been given a $40 million or $45 million payroll, I'd stand up like a man and say it's my fault. Well, I'm not going to do it. So if you want answers about what's going on here, you call the new ownership group and let them give them to you."
"When I came here three years ago, we talked about a situation where we wanted to win now and we were interested in winning now," Piniella said. "And you know what? With a small payroll we [improved] from 55 [victories] to 63 and then to 70. This was supposed to be a breakout year. The problem is we've got a new ownership group here that's changed the direction of where we're headed."
-
06-12-05 02:47 PM #2
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
Come, Lou. We need you.
And in the end, the love you take
is equal to the love you make
-
06-12-05 02:47 PM #3NYYF HOF

- Join Date
- Oct 2004
- Location
- Charlotte, NC
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
Amen!
Originally Posted by PippyPinstripes
-
06-12-05 02:56 PM #4
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
Lou is right. One can only imagine how good Tampa will be when all their young talent comes of age.
"I'd like to thank the Good Lord for making me a Yankee."
-
06-12-05 02:58 PM #5
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
They're interested in the future?
This job will give him a stroke.
-
06-12-05 03:06 PM #6
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsib
A $29 million payroll?! I still can't fathom why an owner would be allowed to take over a team, and invest so little into the product. It's an embarrassment to the league, and a shame for fanbase in Tampa Bay.
As for Piniella, he was always one of my favorite players, and has become a great manager. I'd love to see him back in pinstripes one day.~John
-
06-12-05 03:41 PM #7
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
ditto
Originally Posted by PippyPinstripes
My sword is guided by the reason of Hiten Mitsurugi. Yet when all is said, a sword is a tool of destruction, not salvation.-Seijuro Hiko
-
06-12-05 03:48 PM #8NYYF Legend

- Join Date
- Feb 2004
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsib
An even bigger question is why is MLB so greedy that they would even put a team in Tampa when they already knew that the Marlins could barely draw a semi-decent crowd in football crazy Florida? The D'Rays were destined to fail and be an embarassment to MLB.
Originally Posted by ring403
-
06-12-05 04:18 PM #9
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsib
But they have that lovely ballpark
Originally Posted by YankeeFan1
Here's to you, Mr. Robinson. Jesus loves you more than you Cano.
NYYFans Fantasy Baseball - Springfield Nuclear Power Plant
World's Greatest Yankee Blog
-
06-12-05 04:33 PM #10
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsib
We shouldn't have to give them any luxary tax money.
Originally Posted by ring403
Spring Training is just around the corner!
-
06-12-05 05:05 PM #11
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
Someone else whining about payroll. Lou, you haven't been given a ton to work with, but maybe you're not as good a manager as some people like to think?"I'm not going to take responsibility for this," Piniella said in pregame remarks to reporters. "If I had been given a $40 million or $45 million payroll, I'd stand up like a man and say it's my fault. Well, I'm not going to do it. So if you want answers about what's going on here, you call the new ownership group and let them give them to you."
Namoli certainly hasn't run a good franchise, but it says a lot when Piniella has had more talent to work with than Hal McRae, and the team is just as bad. Should they overpay for the Christian Guzmans and Esteban Loaizas of the world to make him happy? Should they pay their pre-arb players more than the league minimum?
The only talent that club is going to get via free agency is mid-level players that they're going to have to drastically overpay. That's a hell of a lot more irresponsible than just not going out and overpaying for fungible talent."America national sport is called baseballs. It very similar to our sport, shurik, where we take dogs, shoot them in a field and then have a party."
- Borat Sagdiyev
-
06-12-05 05:47 PM #12NYYF Legend

- Join Date
- Feb 2004
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
This is the most ridiculous post. Fess up you are related to Namoli, right? You are actually justifying the D'Rays owner pocketing the Yankees' revenue sharing and luxury tax money along with their profits and not having to put anything resembling a major league team on the field. I watch the D'Rays play almost all their games and there aren't more than 3 major league hitters (Crawfold, Huff and Baldelli) on that team. Kazmir is the only decent pitcher. He will be a stud in about 3 years, but right now should still be in AAA. The D'Rays and Namoli are a disgrace.
Originally Posted by Looie #19
-
06-12-05 05:50 PM #13
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsib
I think it's a nice ballpark. I was there two weeks ago. It's air-conditioned, has comfortable seats, and the tickets are very affordable. I had a great time there.
Originally Posted by Stupid Flanders
Speaking of Namoli, there is a group of Tampa fans that are protesting his ownership of the team and have held rallies to get him the hell out of there. Apparently nobody has listened yet.
-
06-12-05 06:04 PM #14
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
You got me. I'm related to Namoli. That's my trust fund money we're talking about.
Originally Posted by YankeeFan1
You're right, the team should spend more money on fungible talent instead of doing whatever the hell they wish to do with it. Maybe I'm the only one insane enough to think that they're likely never going to compete anyways. They could further things by cutting costs by stopping paying for those pesky top draft picks, and stop overpaying for a manager that has had playoff team after playoff team in Seattle without anything to show for it.
How is what Namoli is doing in Tampa any different than any other for-profit business in America? Namoli's a terrible baseball owner, he's a pretty good business owner if he's making a profit on that awful baseball team that plays in a arena football stadium.
He should lose money trying to compete against the Yankees and Red Sox?"America national sport is called baseballs. It very similar to our sport, shurik, where we take dogs, shoot them in a field and then have a party."
- Borat Sagdiyev
-
06-12-05 06:15 PM #15
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsib
I'd like the Yankees to trade:
Womack, Stanton, Groom, Quantrill, Sierra & Russ Johnson to the Rays for Piniella.
The Yankees should also offer to pay all those players salaries as well.I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down.'- Bob Newhart
-
06-12-05 06:30 PM #16
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsib
Nobody said he had to field a $200 million payroll. Other well run teams compete for the postseason every year with small payrolls.
Originally Posted by Looie #19
If he isn't interested in making even a token effort to compete, he has no business owning a major league franchise. If his goal is to cut every corner possible in an effort to squeeze every last cent of profit out of a floundering franchise, he is not a good owner or a good businessman.~John
-
06-12-05 06:36 PM #17
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
Here goes the media, blowing everything way out of proportion. This is why public relations can be a decent career. Sheesh.
-
06-12-05 06:49 PM #18
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
We need ya', Sweet Lou.

-
06-12-05 07:13 PM #19NYYF Legend

- Join Date
- Jan 2004
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
In time, some of you will be ready to ride Lou out of town on a rail too by using the excuse he's too hard on his players or is too old for the job. Managers and coaches are like the flavor of the month for sports fans.
-
06-12-05 07:23 PM #20
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
I can understand Lou being upset about the team not going after any FAs or trades that might make the team better, but I don't think this year's roster is significantly worse than last years, at least not enough to be taking a step backwards. Saying 'it's not my fault' is not only bush league, it's insulting to the players.
I think Lou is making a play for Joe's job.Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds - Robert Nesta Marley
-
06-12-05 07:32 PM #21
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
Two words:
Salary Floor.
-
06-12-05 07:36 PM #22
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsib
...and they can have Torre too. Why, Joe would do wonders with that great group of kids.
Originally Posted by JDPNYY
Mel too. Joe & Mel are getting to the age where they'll be required to move to Florida anyway.
It all works out well for everyone.
I hear Green Tea is cheaper and much more abundant in Florida.I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down.'- Bob Newhart
-
06-12-05 08:09 PM #23
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
Well, Steinbrenner said that he trusts Torre to turn the Yankees' season around. Which means that Torre will be fired by the end of July. Which opens up the door for Sweet Lou to take the job.
-
06-12-05 08:37 PM #24
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
By your logic any team on the bottom in terms of payroll, talent and record should just pack it up and not try to win.
Originally Posted by Looie #19
-
06-12-05 10:09 PM #25
Re: Piniella Says Rays' Owners Not Interested In The Present; Says He's Not Responsible
Well, that's wasn't my logic and you know it. My logic was why the hell should teams lose money building a .500 team when they can have an abomination that breaks even?
Originally Posted by BobbyMurcerFan
"America national sport is called baseballs. It very similar to our sport, shurik, where we take dogs, shoot them in a field and then have a party."
- Borat Sagdiyev
Thread Information
Users Browsing this Thread
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)


Reply With Quote
