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    Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    Bullpen just gave up a grand slam in the 8th inning. Not a terrible performance by the SP, too. And the hit parade continues. I don't know whether to cry for Willie or laugh cause they are the Mets.

    They are a flawed, flawed team.

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    To Randa, no less.

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    As much as the Mets were crowing about Martinez and the bats, the relief corp was the question mark. Still its only two games .
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    I think Yankee fans should kinda lay low with taking shots at the Mets relief situation for right now. Just sayin.

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    Quote Originally Posted by BronxByTheBay
    I think Yankee fans should kinda lay low with taking shots at the Mets relief situation for right now. Just sayin.
    Why? Except for Mo going through a rough patch (like every other closer in baseball so far), our bullpen has been dominant.

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    Quote Originally Posted by wexy
    As much as the Mets were crowing about Martinez and the bats, the relief corp was the question mark. Still its only two games .
    Mets fans can crow all they want. If we whoop and holler, we're called arrogant, then they turn around and do the very same thing. Must be "do onto others as I will do to you" time.

    They have some good stars, but what Pedro striketh, what Beltran slammeth, the relievers may just give away.
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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey Yankee
    They have some good stars, but what Pedro striketh, what Beltran slammeth, the relievers may just give away.
    I feel bad for willy but these two games have been pretty good.
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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    I'm going to miss DeJean on Baltimore =(

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    You realize that the Yankees are also having bullpen problems, right?

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    Juan Rincon + Joe Nathan = Best set-up/closer combo in MLB.

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    I dont feel bad for the Mets at all. It's their own fault.

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    Quote Originally Posted by Circle Change
    Juan Rincon + Joe Nathan = Best set-up/closer combo in MLB.
    Joe Nathan needs to close a big game before you start putting that type of label on him.

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    Quote Originally Posted by TripleG23
    Joe Nathan needs to close a big game before you start putting that type of label on him.

    -Triple G
    Right now, Nathan is part of the best bullpen combination in MLB, 'Big Game' or not. (Btw, he has pitched 'Big Games' well before; see last year's ALDS against NY)

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    And to think some Mets fans were saying how they were going to win 90+ games this year.
    “I mean, people knew that Brown was out there, and that Randy was ornery all the time. And Pavano is whoever he is. But if you’re their manager, you can’t go out and write about them like that.

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    Quote Originally Posted by twentyquestions
    Right now, Nathan is part of the best bullpen combination in MLB, 'Big Game' or not. (Btw, he has pitched 'Big Games' well before; see last year's ALDS against NY)
    Joe Nathan 2004 ALDS:
    0-1, 3.60 ERA, 1 SV, 5 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 5 BB, 6 K

    Ok numbers I guess. Not great; he lost a game probably by the managers fault of keeping him in too long. I don't think you can like the 1 BB per Inning

    Is Juan Rincon 10.80 ERA in the ALDS part of the best combo in baseball?

    Please do not bring up the 2004 ALDS because they did not get the job done.

    Not saying they are bad, actually I think they are very good in the regular season. I just would not go as far as to say they are the best until they prove to me they can get the job done in the big spots.

    Would you rather have Nathan/Rincon over any combo with the following closers? K-Rod, Rivera, Foulke, Lidge, Gagne?

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffWeaverFan
    And to think some Mets fans were saying how they were going to win 90+ games this year.
    They need to improve the bullpen. They are going to lose a lot of games for them. They have good pretty good starters and a nice mix of young/veteran players in the lineup but that bullpen might keep them hovering around .500

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    Quote Originally Posted by TripleG23
    Would you rather have Nathan/Rincon over any combo with the following closers? K-Rod, Rivera, Foulke, Lidge, Gagne?
    Be careful what you ask today....

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeClemens22
    Be careful what you ask today....


    Don't worry, I'll stand by it. I'd always want Rivera on the mound for me as a closer. . . Yes, even now....

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffWeaverFan
    And to think some Mets fans were saying how they were going to win 90+ games this year.
    Yeah, I have a friend who believes that. I think the Mets will win 86 and look good until a couple weeks after the AS break. I hope they over achieve.

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    Quote Originally Posted by Socrates
    Bullpen just gave up a grand slam in the 8th inning. Not a terrible performance by the SP, too. And the hit parade continues. I don't know whether to cry for Willie or laugh cause they are the Mets.

    They are a flawed, flawed team.

    Ahhh- it's good to see the mets are still turning their old tricks!!

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    The Mess (no typo) look lousy but Tom Gordon looked crappy, too, the other day and Felix Rodriguez became almost instantly unhinged so modesty is probably reasonable at this point.

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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    I wonder what Fred Wilpuss is doin' with the bullpen...
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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    Quote Originally Posted by Circle Change
    Juan Rincon + Joe Nathan = Best set-up/closer combo in MLB.
    They're a great combo, but I think there are others that are comparable or better. Rivera and Gordon, for one. Not taking anything away from that combo, though-they're definately excellent. I just don't feel they're the best.
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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    Quote Originally Posted by BroadwayBomber55
    I wonder what Fred Wilpuss is doin' with the bullpen...
    Please refrain from the name calling. Thanks.
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    Re: Oh, the poor, poor Mets....

    Mets lose again today. 0-4 for the first time in....a while.

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