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    Auction League Questions

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    Re: Auction League Questions

    To answer your question about the transaction limitations, Hitman23:

    There is no limit to how many transactions you can make (as of right now).

    You do not have to pay for your transactions.
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    ok....

    sorry for all the questions. I've never done an auction league so I wanna get to know the environment. It's very different.

    How are FA picked up? 1st come first served? Always on waivers and the end of the week the team with the least points gets first priority? Or is it a running Waiver priority depending on your previous moves? Or do you have another way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman23
    ok....

    sorry for all the questions. I've never done an auction league so I wanna get to know the environment. It's very different.

    How are FA picked up? 1st come first served? Always on waivers and the end of the week the team with the least points gets first priority? Or is it a running Waiver priority depending on your previous moves? Or do you have another way?
    A player gets dropped, and he goes on Waivers for a couple of days. After that time he becomes a free agent.

    For waiver claims there is a waiver priority list. Any player claimed on waivers will have a salary of $10 OR his salary before being dropped; whichever is HIGHER.

    Example 1: Orlando Cabrera get dropped last year and had a salary of $17. If someone puts in a waiver claim in on him and wins, then his salary with the new team is $17.

    Example 2: Same case but the dropped player was salaried at $6. Whomever wins the waiver claim has that guy at $10 now.

    All FA will be salaried at $10. First come, first serve.
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    So you need to have money left over after the auction to sign players? I assume you get a credit for the salary of the player you drop.....
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    Snatch can you post the constitution in a seperate thread so we can use it as a reference. thanks

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    Re: Auction League Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman23
    So you need to have money left over after the auction to sign players? I assume you get a credit for the salary of the player you drop.....
    No, you can go over the cap to sign FAs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_E
    No, you can go over the cap to sign FAs.
    ??? really?

    I think I'm gonna wait for all the rules to be posted. I have too many questions...

    I would like to suggest though, and it's fine if everyone doesn't agree, having bench players are important. at least 2 or 3.
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    Re: Auction League Questions

    From the main forum:

    BEHOLD! I give you THE CONSTITUTION...

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    I. TEAMS AND ROSTERS
    1.1. There will be ____ teams in the NYYFans Baseball League consisting of a mix of American and National league players. Each team will consist of 27 players (23 starters and 4 minor leaguers).
    1.2. A team's roster consists of the following players:
    · 5 outfielders
    · 2 catchers
    · 1 second baseman
    · 1 shortstop
    · 1 second baseman or shortstop
    · 1 first baseman
    · 1 third baseman
    · 1 first or third baseman
    · 1 utility player (non-pitcher who can be any offensive player)
    · 9 pitchers (any combination of starters and relievers)
    · 4 minor league players (any position)
    1.3. There is a minimum innings requirement for all staffs of 900 innings. Anyone who does not achieve 900 innings, will be placed last in the categories of ERA and WHIP.


    II. AUCTION

    2.1. Each team must acquire 23 players at a total cost not to exceed $260 (not real money). A team need not spend the maximum.

    2.2. Teams will nominate players for acquisition in random order.

    2.3. The following players are eligible for the major league auction:
    · Any players who are on a major league 40-man roster and are still with the major league club at the time of the auction
    · Any players who are not on a major league 40-man roster but are projected to start the season on the major league squad and can be confirmed by at least half of the owners present.
    2.4. If an ineligible player is selected in the auction and his ineligible status is not declared at the time of the auction, league executives have from the end of the auction until twenty-four hours before the start of the first game of opening day to uncover this error. If the error is uncovered, the team who selected the illegal player must pick a replacement player from the free agent pool. This replacement will count as a free agent in all aspects, including the $10 salary and counting towards the free agent limit. The ineligible player will then be released outright and cannot be resigned until such time he is legally eligible.

    2.5. The team bidding first opens with a salary bid of at least $1 for any eligible player and the bidding proceeds at minimum increments of $1 until only one bidder is left. That team acquires the nominated player for the final bid amount. The process is repeated, with successive owners nominating players to be bid on, until every team has acquired a squad of 23 players by requisite position.

    2.6. No team may make a bid for a player it cannot afford. For example, a team with $3 left and two openings on its roster is limited to a maximum bid of $2 for one player. (Leaving $1 for the other unfilled roster spot.)

    2.7. No team may bid for a player who qualifies only at a position that the team has already filled and that team has already fulfilled its utility position.

    2.8. After an owner acquires a player, he immediately chooses the position that player will fill. Players eligible at more than one position may be shifted during the course of the auction.

    2.9. The salary of a player acquired in the major league auction is his final bid amount.

    2.10. Following the major league auction, a four-round minor league draft will take place to pick the four minor league players for each team. In the first year of the league, the order of selection in the first round will be random and will be reversed in subsequent rounds. In all other years, teams will draft in reverse order of the previous year's finish for all rounds of the minor league draft.

    2.11. The salary of a player drafted in the minor league draft is $5.


    III. POSITION ELIGIBILITY

    3.1. A player may be assigned to any position at which he appeared in 20 or more games in the preceding season. If a player did not appear in 20 games at a single position, he may be drafted only at the position(s) at which he appeared most frequently.

    3.2. Once the season is underway, a player becomes eligible for any position at which he appears at least 15 times.

    3.3. The position eligibility of minor leaguers who have no major league experience will be determined by their projected fielding position for the upcoming season. This position must be confirmed by a minimum of 5 owners present at the minor league draft.

    3.4. Once the season is underway, a minor league call-up who is signed as a free agent and has no prior major league experience will qualify at (a) the position he played in the minors if he is signed before he actually plays a game or (b) the first position he plays in the field in the major leagues if he is signed before he plays 5 games. After 5 games at one position, the usual position eligibility rules take effect.

    3.5 A player shifting positions in the off-season WILL NOT be eligible at his old position if it is clear that he has been moved to his new position for the duration of the upcoming season. He will however, gain eligibility at his old position if he plays 15 games there during the course of the upcoming season.

    IV. FEES
    4.1. BASIC: The entrance fee is $25. (subject to change)

    4.2. All fees must be paid within one week of DRAFT DAY! Unless arrangements have been made, commissioner has right to freeze rosters until fees are up to date.

    4.3. All transactions made throughout the season are free.

    V. PLAYER SALARIES

    5.1. The salary of a player does not change unless the player becomes a free agent, or is signed to a long-term contract.

    5.2. The salary of a player acquired in the major league auction is his auction price.

    5.3. The salary of a player drafted in the minor league draft is $5.

    5.4. The salary of a player called up from the free agent pool during the season is $10.

    5.5. When a player is claimed off waivers, his salary either becomes $10 or remains the same, whichever is higher. If the player clears waivers (i.e., is not claimed), then he becomes a free agent. If he is subsequently acquired, his salary becomes the same as a free agent, $10.


    VI. PRIZE MONEY

    6.1. All fees shall be paid promptly, collected, and wisely invested by the League Commissioner, who is empowered to subject owners to public humiliation and to assess fines as needed to insure payments are made to the League in a timely fashion.

    6.2. The money shall be divided among the first three teams in the final standings as follows:
    · 3rd Place: None
    · 2nd Place: More None
    · 1st Place: The Most None
    .

    VII. STANDINGS

    7.1. The following criteria are used to determine team performance:
    · Composite Batting Average
    · Total Runs Scored
    · Total Home Runs
    · Total Runs Batted In
    · Total Stolen Bases
    · Total Wins
    · Total Saves
    · Composite Earned Run Average
    · Composite pitching ratio of walks and hits to innings pitched (RATIO = (BB + H)/IP)
    · Composite strikeouts
    7.2. Teams are ranked from first to last in each of the ten categories, and given points for each place. For example, in a fifteen-team league, the first-place team in a category receives fifteen points, the second-place team fourteen, and so on down to one point for last place. The team with the most total points wins the pennant.

    7.3. In case of ties in an individual category, the tied teams are assigned points by totaling points for the rankings at issue and dividing by the total number of teams tied.

    7.4. In case of ties in total points, each team involved in the tie is compared to all other teams involved in the tie in each individual category. One point is given to each team for leading in a category. The team with the most points using this method wins the tiebreaker. If, after this method is used, it is still a tie, the tie stands.


    VIII. STATS

    8.1. CBS Sportsline will be the recommended statistical service chosen and will constitute the official statistics for our league. Any problems with statistics/player moves etc. must be reported to the Commissioner within 7 days.

    8.2. The effective date of any transaction for purposes of statistical calculation is the day of the transaction if the transaction occurred before Noon Eastern time. If the transaction occurred on or after Noon Eastern time, it is effective the next day.

    8.3. Performance statistics of a player shall be assigned to a Rotisserie League team only when he is on the active roster of that team.

    8.4. Standings and Transactions will be tabulated daily on-line and available on the Internet.

    8.5. All regular season statistics from Major League Baseball, including any extra games necessary to determine playoff teams, will be included. Statistics from Major League Baseball's playoffs are not included.


    IX. TRADES

    9.1. From the completion of the major league auction until the first day of the major league season, rotisserie league teams are free to make trades of any kind without limit and without position requirements.

    9.2. From the first day of the major league season until midnight of All-star day, rotisserie league teams are free to make trades of any kind without limit, so long as the active rosters of both teams involved in a trade reflect the required position distribution upon completion of the transaction. This would include subsequent pickups, drops, etc.

    9.3. From the Wednesday after the scheduled All-star game through August 31, trades may take place freely between teams within 2 spots either way in the current standings. No other trade may take place (1st place may trade with any of the 2nd 3rd or 4th place teams; Last may trade with the 2nd 3rd or 4th last teams).

    9.4. No trade may take place from September 1 until the last day of the regular season.

    9.5. Trades made from the last day of the regular season until two weeks before the major league auction are not bound by the position distribution requirement.

    9.6. No trade may take place from two weeks before the auction until the auction. Trades are official once both sides have posted the trade online.

    9.7. There are no limits to the number of trades a team may make during the season.

    9.8. Minor league draft picks and auction money may not be traded at any time.


    X. WAIVERS

    10.1. Any player may be released at any time by his rotisserie team.

    10.2. When a player is released, he is placed on waivers for 7 days. Within those 7 days, the lowest placed team to claim the player acquires the player. The most recent standings shall be used to determine the lowest placed team.

    10.3. When a player is claimed off waivers, his salary either becomes $10 or remains the same, whichever is higher.

    10.4. After the 7-day waiver period has passed, if the player has not been claimed, he immediately becomes a free agent and is available to all teams.

    10.5. The team who waived the player cannot claim the player off waivers. That team must wait until the player clears waivers and becomes a free agent before reacquiring the player.


    XI. FREE-AGENT ELIGIBILITY

    11.1. Any player who is on an active major league roster, not owned by another rotisserie team, and not currently on the waiver list may be acquired as a free agent. Minor league players, players on the disabled list, and players not on a major league roster are not eligible to be acquired as a free agent.

    11.2. No free agents may be acquired between the last day of the previous season and Opening Day of the current season.

    11.3. Free agents may be picked up from Opening Day of the season until midnight on the second to last day of the season.

    11.4. After a player is released to the free agent pool, he is eligible to be claimed by all teams on a first-come, first-served basis.

    11.5. Each team is limited to a combination of 40 free agent and waiver acquisitions per season.




    XII. THE RESERVE LIST

    12.1. A team may replace any player on its 23-man roster who has been placed on the Disabled List, sent down to the Minor Leagues, been designated for assignment, or been released by his major league team.

    12.2. A reserved player is removed from a team's active roster on the day the transaction was recorded, if it was recorded before Noon Eastern time. If the transaction was recorded on or after Noon, the player is removed from the team’s active roster on the next day. The player is then placed on the team's Reserve List.

    12.3. There is no limit to the number of players a team may have on its Reserve List.

    12.4. Reserving a player protects a team's rights to that player.

    12.5. Once a specific action has been taken to remove a player from its 23-man roster (via release or placing him on the Reserve List), a team is then free to activate a player from reserve, its minor league roster or select any eligible player from waivers or the free agent pool. The salary assigned to a player selected from the free agent pool is $10. When a player is claimed off waivers, his salary either becomes $10 or remains the same, whichever is higher.

    12.6. Once a player has been activated from the Disabled List, called up from the minor leagues, or acquired by another major league team, that player must be recalled from the Reserve List within 7 days. For example, if a player is recalled from the DL on Friday May 5, he must be recalled by Friday May 12. If the player is not recalled within this time period, he will be automatically placed on waivers.

    12.7. There are no limits to the number of Reserve/Activate moves a team can make in one season.

    12.8. A suspended player may not be placed on the reserve list. If a player is suspended by Major League Baseball for seven or more days, he may be waived, but not reserved. If a player is suspended for six or less days, he must remain on the active roster of his rotisserie team.


    XIII. MINOR LEAGUES

    13.1. Following the major league auction, a four-round minor league draft will take place. In the first year of the league, the order of selection in the first round will be random and will be reversed in subsequent rounds. In all other years, teams will draft in reverse order of the previous year's finish for all four rounds of the minor league draft.

    13.2. Only players who qualify as a rookie in the major leagues are eligible for the minor league draft.

    13.3. When a player is drafted in the minor league draft, he is placed on the team's minor league roster. This protects a team's rights to that player.

    13.4.1 If a player drafted in the minor league draft is activated by his major league team prior to September 1, the team has 7 days to activate that player. If the player is not activated within this time period, he will be automatically placed on waivers.

    13.4.2 Minor leaguers called up prior to 9/1 to fill a roster spot created by a Major Leaguer going on the 15 day DL are not required to be activated or waived unless they remain on the ML roster when the DL'd player returns

    13.4.3 Minor leaguers called up prior to 9/1 to fill a roster spot created by a Major Leaguer going on the 60 day DL are required to be activated or waived within 7 days.

    13.5 Once a player is activated by his rotisserie team, that player loses his minor league status.

    13.6. If a player remains on his team's minor league roster, he is not bound to a contract.

    13.7. A minor league player may be retained from one season to the next without his salary counting towards the team’s $260 salary cap.

    13.8. Each team has a maximum of four minor league players he may retain from one season to the next. In the minor league draft, a team may only draft enough players to reach the four-man minor league roster limit.

    13.9. Once a player is activated, waived or reserved from the minor league roster, he cannot be put back on the minor league roster. The only way a player can return to a minor league roster is if he is drafted in a subsequent season's minor league draft.


    XIV. ROSTER PROTECTION AND CONTRACTS

    14.1. From season to season, each team must retain between 7 and 12 players, excluding minor league players. There is a limit of 4 minor league players a team may keep from one season to the next.

    14.2. The names of the players being retained must be recorded on distributed worksheets with the league secretary by midnight exactly two weeks before the next auction. No trades may take place from the time the worksheets are due until the auction.

    14.3. After two seasons (a season is defined as any part of a major league season) of a player being owned by any rotisserie team without having been released to the free agent pool, the player must be signed to a long-term contract, given his option contract, or released. Players who have been in the minor leagues from Opening Day through August 31 are not bound by this restriction. Their service time does not begin until they are called up to the major league roster during the season before September 1.

    14.4. If a player is released, he is made available to all teams in the next major league auction.

    14.5. If a player is given his option contract, his salary remains the same for one season. After that season is complete, the player must be released and made available for the next major league auction.

    14.6. If a player is signed to a long-term contract, his salary will be raised by $4 for each year of the long-term contract. For example, if a player’s salary is $9 and a team wishes to sign him to a three-year contract, his annual salary is increased by $12 to $21 for the next three years.

    14.7. If a player is released before the end of his contract, the team releasing that player will be penalized as follows: The team's salary cap will be decreased by $1 for each year in the total number of years in the contract. For example, if a player is signed to a 4-year contract and is released during his second season, the team waiving the player will have $3 removed from his allotted salary cap in the next season, leaving that team with only $257 instead of the usual $260.

    14.8. A player may be signed to only one long-term contract. After the contract has expired, the player must be released and made available for the next major league auction.

    14.9. Minor league players are not bound by contract until they are called up to the major leagues prior to September 1. A minor league player may be retained from one season to the next without his salary counting towards the team’s $260 salary cap.

    14.10. Trades do not affect the contract status of a player.


    XV. GOVERNANCE

    15.1. The decision of the Commissioner supersedes the rules herein and is final in any disputes. He also has the power to change a rule with an unforeseen loophole post de facto (After the fact) for the benefit of the league. The overall good of the league as a whole will be greater then the benefit to any sum of its constituents.

    15.2. All owners (known as the Committee Of the Whole) designate annually an Executive Committee composed of five team owners in good standing. The current Commissioner (self-appointed for life…until he gets fed up with it) is Snatch Catch.

    15.3. Rule changes, pronouncements, and acts of whimsy after the inaugural auction are determined by majority vote of the Committee of the Whole.

    15.4. The commissioner will hear all arguments on any disputed trades and will make a decision as to the acceptability of the trade in question.

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    Re: Auction League Questions

    Also from the main forum:


    Quote Originally Posted by Big_E
    So what happens if for example, I'm at the $260 limit, and a $5 player goes on the DL for the remainder of the season? If I drop the $5 player, I can't sign a FA because I'll be over the limit?

    And how does the DL work? If I put a player on the DL, does his salary still count towards the $260 limit?
    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch
    The cap works like football, meaning you can go over in season.

    However, once keepers are due you have to be under the cap.

    DL salaries still count, but since you can go over in season, there is no need to worry about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman23
    ??? really?

    I think I'm gonna wait for all the rules to be posted. I have too many questions...

    I would like to suggest though, and it's fine if everyone doesn't agree, having bench players are important. at least 2 or 3.
    Playing without bench players is more complicated, and makes the league more competitive and thought provoking, IMHO.

    If you have a bench slot, you can wait out a cold player or wait out a suspended player by rotating in a replacement.

    Additionally you could hold a rookie that was on the major league roster on the bench, and wait for him to start playing well. The bench in a fantasy league is like a crutch.

    When you have EVERYONE on your roster starting, there is no leeway. You have to make a decision as to who you want to pick up based on how they are going to play for you right now. You can't pick someone up and stash them on your bench "just in case"- you always have to be making decisions as to whether or not the player you pick up is going to outperform the player that you drop..RIGHT NOW. The bench allows for too much "room for error".

    Last year: Orlando Cabrera isn't playing well. You can't just move someone else into the lineup from your bench; you have to make a decision whether or not you want to wait him out (He's proven to be a top fantasy SS in the past) or drop him and sign a replacement. It makes things much more interesting...
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    you're the commish man. Cool with me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman23
    you're the commish man. Cool with me!
    Want to know what the coolest thing is?

    How many times have you ever been sitting there in your fantasy drafts and said to yourself

    "I wonder if I should take so-and-so right now, or wait a round..."

    or, to another person, said

    "EFF YOU! THAT WAS MY NEXT PICK! DAMN IT!"

    Well, with an auction league that will never happen. You control who you get. If you really want a player, you will get him. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch
    Want to know what the coolest thing is?

    How many times have you ever been sitting there in your fantasy drafts and said to yourself

    "I wonder if I should take so-and-so right now, or wait a round..."

    or, to another person, said

    "EFF YOU! THAT WAS MY NEXT PICK! DAMN IT!"

    Well, with an auction league that will never happen. You control who you get. If you really want a player, you will get him. Period.
    In one of my other leagues, which is a money league, that happened to me 5 rounds in a row. Mother effer took so many of my picks, but it worked out because my secondary pick turned out to be Beltre in the 10th round, and another turned out to be Clemens in the 12th
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    Re: Auction League Questions

    I'm a little bit wary of the $10 for FAs..what if they're just a guy to fill a roster hole? Like if I wanted to pick up Enrique Wilson because I needed a 2B/SS. He's still $10? What if I'm near the salary cap? I can't sign anyone and I have to play with an incomplete roster until that player is healthy?

    And about the reserve clause..why only 7 days? If a guy is on the 15 day DL, why can't we DL him for those 15 days?

    Also, do the $5 for the four minor leaguers count towards the $260 total, leaving us $220 for the main draft?

    Also, no OPS or OBP as a stat? I know it's not a traditional FBB Stat, but for something like this I wouldn't mind seeing it...
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    Re: Auction League Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Soriambi
    I'm a little bit wary of the $10 for FAs..what if they're just a guy to fill a roster hole?
    Yes they are $10. I kind of went into it in the other thread with Big_E...

    Quote Originally Posted by Soriambi
    Like if I wanted to pick up Enrique Wilson because I needed a 2B/SS. He's still $10? What if I'm near the salary cap? I can't sign anyone and I have to play with an incomplete roster until that player is healthy?
    You can go over the salary cap IN SEASON. You could have $335 worth of players on your team if you wanted, but going into next season you'd have to be under $260, with at least $1 per roster spot that you had open. You'd have to cut everyone else- its very similar to the NFL in that regard.

    You can try and put together a bunch of high priced talent and make a push for the championship., but in the end everyone else will be scooping up the younger, cheaper talent, and have better foundations going forward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soriambi
    And about the reserve clause..why only 7 days? If a guy is on the 15 day DL, why can't we DL him for those 15 days?
    I think you may have misread the constitution:

    12.6. Once a player has been activated from the Disabled List, called up from the minor leagues, or acquired by another major league team, that player must be recalled from the Reserve List within 7 days. For example, if a player is recalled from the DL on Friday May 5, he must be recalled by Friday May 12. If the player is not recalled within this time period, he will be automatically placed on waivers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Soriambi
    Also, do the $5 for the four minor leaguers count towards the $260 total, leaving us $220 for the main draft?
    Nope.

    13.7. A minor league player may be retained from one season to the next without his salary counting towards the team’s $260 salary cap.
    14.9. Minor league players are not bound by contract until they are called up to the major leagues prior to September 1. A minor league player may be retained from one season to the next without his salary counting towards the team’s $260 salary cap.
    Quote Originally Posted by Soriambi
    Also, no OPS or OBP as a stat? I know it's not a traditional FBB Stat, but for something like this I wouldn't mind seeing it...
    Interesting.

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    I would not be opposed to it either. Lets see what everyone else has to say...
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    I like the traditional categories.

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    Thanks. The Constitution is a little overwhelming to get everything. I did misread that, so thanks, and thanks for the info on the cap in season. Let me clarify further:

    A team can keep 7 players, 12 players, or anywhere in between the next year at the same price, but then to keep that same player in 2006 we would have to lock them up long term, or is it that they choose to keep them for one year at the same price and then they have to go back into the draft, forfeiting the rights to lock them up long term.

    Could I get a bit of a further explanation on that, if I didn't have it right?

    I mentioned the BA/OBP thing because I think that OBP and to an even greater extent, OPS, are much better indicators than BA, since we don't have doubles, triples, etc as categories (obviously). If the player doesn't score or drive anyone in, singles and triples count the same, and there's no bonus for a player with a good eye other than a few more runs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soriambi
    A team can keep 7 players, 12 players, or anywhere in between the next year at the same price, but then to keep that same player in 2006 we would have to lock them up long term, or is it that they choose to keep them for one year at the same price and then they have to go back into the draft, forfeiting the rights to lock them up long term.
    What do you think?

    I like the "option year" aspect as long as you have to throw him back in a year if you pick up the option; you can't sign him long term if you pick up his option.

    I also like the idea of doing away with the option year all together, and just saying "sign him or drop him at the end of the season".

    I think I like the first way better, though: You can keep a guy for an extra season at his current salary, but then you HAVE to throw him back after that year.

    Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch Catch
    What do you think?

    I like the "option year" aspect as long as you have to throw him back in a year if you pick up the option; you can't sign him long term if you pick up his option.

    I also like the idea of doing away with the option year all together, and just saying "sign him or drop him at the end of the season".

    I think I like the first way better, though: You can keep a guy for an extra season at his current salary, but then you HAVE to throw him back after that year.

    Thoughts?
    I like that idea, the you can keep anyone for one year at the same salary, but then have to throw him back, or you can sign him up long term. Adds an extra dimension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soriambi
    I like that idea, the you can keep anyone for one year at the same salary, but then have to throw him back, or you can sign him up long term. Adds an extra dimension.
    I'm for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soriambi
    I like that idea, the you can keep anyone for one year at the same salary, but then have to throw him back, or you can sign him up long term. Adds an extra dimension.
    I agree. Sign a player for $15.

    After one year you have to decide whether or not you want to pick up his option, sign him to a long term deal, or waive him.

    Option: You get the player for $15 next year, but lose any chance to sign him to a long term deal after that and must throw him back into the FA pool.

    Contract: Sign him to a contract with the max length of 4 years.

    Waive: See Ya. Back into the FA pool.
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    everything looks good to me. this should be fun. I don't know about those prizes though.
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    So, is there a bid war for the players or something...? or are they initially given a $ amount?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espinosa's Glasses
    So, is there a bid war for the players or something...? or are they initially given a $ amount?
    It's a bid on players, hence the "auction" part.

    I'm unsure of exactly how the draft goes in some aspects, though. Who calls out the players? Random owners? Does it go around so that each owner takes a turn calling out a player? What's the deal with that?
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