First Place Knicks!!!

**IntangiblesRule** · 11-24-04 01:29 AM

Okay, I know we're 5-5 and in the worst division in basketball...but after the last few years of darkness it just felt good to say. Maybe in 5 years when we shed all of these bad contracts we won't just be a paper tiger. Maybe I'll get to see the Knicks win a championship in my lifetime...

Or not.

**chanman7483** · 11-24-04 01:43 AM

Originally posted by IntangiblesRule
Okay, I know we're 5-5 and in the worst division in basketball...but after the last few years of darkness it just felt good to say. Maybe in 5 years when we shed all of these bad contracts we won't just be a paper tiger. Maybe I'll get to see the Knicks win a championship in my lifetime...

Or not.

I doubt it man but i'm hoping hard that that's the case.

If they were to keep the team intact... could be looking at a VETERAN PRESENCE in starbury... SG in his prime in crawford... ariza(20 lbs heavier)... sweetney, an established big forward... i mean.. nice

**JfromJersey** · 11-24-04 12:00 PM

The only thing the Knicks are missing right now is a good center. I'm not sold at all on Mohammed.

**nickzcool51** · 11-24-04 12:34 PM

Originally posted by JfromJersey
The only thing the Knicks are missing right now is a good center. I'm not sold at all on Mohammed.

Mohammed is far from our weakest postition. TT is.

**NYYRocket** · 11-24-04 01:47 PM

Hope they get Carter

**nickzcool51** · 11-24-04 02:04 PM

Originally posted by NYYRocket
Hope they get Carter

If they could get him for TT that would be great. Let Carter, Houston, Marbury, and Crawford form a 4 man rotation.

**JeffWeaverFan** · 11-24-04 02:29 PM

Originally posted by nickzcool51

Mohammed is far from our weakest postition. TT is.

Yeah, but he (along with Mohammed) had a very solid game last night. Maybe he's about to turn it around...

**dabomb2045** · 11-24-04 05:27 PM

Isiah has really turned things around drastically in 1 season

if there was only a way to get rid of Houston....he is the last albatross remaining from the Layden era

i think we are winning this division....the only thing we really need is a center (Mohammed is more of a PF in my mind).....and a guy who can play shutdown defense and bring the team an edge (Artest)

**Sam2448** · 11-25-04 09:26 AM

I think we're probably the 3rd best team in the east right now behind Miami and Detroit. Indiana's suspensions killed them.

I'm really starting to like Mohammed, he can finish inside and is a great offensive rebounder. There isn't a real good center available, I like Mohammed more than Eddy Curry. I would probably take Zo over him, but Zo's contract has not been waved yet. TT is by far our weakest link, that being said, having Starbury, Crawford, and Houston on the floor together will be pretty electric. But will Wilkens try Crawford or Houston at small forward? My guess is he won't start all three but end up playing them together a lot. The Knicks were starting to look good though, before that thrashing last night. Mohammed was fantastic again though, with 25 points and 14 rebounds, including 7 offensive.

**Coney36** · 11-26-04 11:24 AM

It's kinda sad (and pathetic) that the east has gotten so weak that a team can be under .500 and be in first place...

**hobokenfish** · 11-26-04 02:29 PM

Originally posted by Coney36
It's kinda sad (and pathetic) that the east has gotten so weak that a team can be under .500 and be in first place...

Yup. And I wouldn't get my hopes up. Isiah is making this team mediocre for years to come. Yeah, they're better than they were a year ago, but they won't compete with the big boys. And Stephon Marbury is not a winner.

It's amazing to me that the Knicks would hire Isiah after he bankrupted the CBA and got fired from Indiana....

**StaceyRosie** · 11-26-04 05:02 PM

Are the Dolans still in charge? That could be why Isiah was hired. They're assclowns who don't know their asses from their elbows and have run both the Knicks and Rangers into the ground....

**knickfan23** · 11-27-04 12:53 PM

Originally posted by NYYRocket
Hope they get Carter

Vince Carter will lead no team anywhere. Despite his talent, he is soft, and cannot LEAD. To me, he is overrated and has declined since the year he beat the Knicks in 01.

**ChocolateGirl** · 11-27-04 02:18 PM

if there was only a way to get rid of Houston....he is the last albatross remaining from the Layden era

Houston is constantly injured. He makes me sick.

It is surprising to see they are in 1st place. But the Knicks have let me down so many years in a row that I am not getting too excited about them yet and their week division and Conference.

**StaceyRosie** · 11-27-04 03:26 PM

I went to today's game. I am a perfect 3-0 at MSG. Of course I've only been there in 1994, 2003 and today.

But still...I bring them good luck

**yankeesrule2000** · 11-27-04 09:37 PM

6-6 and in first place!

**SheffMVP11** · 11-27-04 10:51 PM

Jamal Crawford is friggin awesome

**donniesrecordholdsup** · 11-27-04 11:47 PM

Originally posted by hobokenfish

Yup. And I wouldn't get my hopes up. Isiah is making this team mediocre for years to come. Yeah, they're better than they were a year ago, but they won't compete with the big boys. And Stephon Marbury is not a winner.

It's amazing to me that the Knicks would hire Isiah after he bankrupted the CBA and got fired from Indiana....

how is marbury not a winner ?

**StaceyRosie** · 11-27-04 11:53 PM

Originally posted by SheffMVP11
Jamal Crawford is friggin awesome

He did very well today.

What I don't understand is why the Knicks set up plays around Kurt Thomas

He can't really shoot.

**PlsDontTearDownY.S.** · 11-28-04 07:50 AM

Originally posted by hobokenfish

Yup. And I wouldn't get my hopes up. Isiah is making this team mediocre for years to come. Yeah, they're better than they were a year ago, but they won't compete with the big boys. And Stephon Marbury is not a winner.

It's amazing to me that the Knicks would hire Isiah after he bankrupted the CBA and got fired from Indiana....

Allan Houston and his contract are what's stopping the Knicks from getting guys like T-Mac, Shaq, and any other top 5 player in the league. We are doomed to be a good team with no chance for a chip unless Isaiah can bring us Pistons type depth and concentration on defense. To win in this league you either have top 5 talent or depth, and it looks like we are going after depth.

**IntangiblesRule** · 11-28-04 10:52 AM

Originally posted by StaceyRosie
I went to today's game. I am a perfect 3-0 at MSG. Of course I've only been there in 1994, 2003 and today. But still...I bring them good luck

Sample size is too small

If you get to like 10-0 I might have to consider buying you season tickets...

**nickzcool51** · 11-28-04 11:14 AM

Originally posted by StaceyRosie

He did very well today.

What I don't understand is why the Knicks set up plays around Kurt Thomas He can't really shoot.

Are you serious? Did you see the Rockets game? He seemed to hit every shot he took and was pivitol in the come back. He's got a great mid range jumper.

**Sam2448** · 11-28-04 11:20 AM

Agreed, Thomas is an excellent midrange shooter. Him and Steph running the pick and roll is just beautiful.

**StaceyRosie** · 11-28-04 11:31 AM

Hey he wasn't looking that good taking certain shots yesterday. Makeable shots. That's all I was saying. Calm down.

**hobokenfish** · 11-28-04 04:21 PM

Originally posted by donniesrecordholdsup

how is marbury not a winner ?

Just look at his career. And if he really cared about winning, he never would have left Minnesota.

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