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    Soriano Numbers:

    it's amusing how this place changes on a day to day basis.. i mean we win, and it's silent except for boz or alex or someone posting some out of whack lopsided i need a superstar at every spot trade proposal...

    but when we lose, even if it's one god damn game, there is a torrent of bull................ second guessing the gm to the manager to the superphenomenal stud 2b... critics... never accomplished squat yet they klnow more than everyone... now i know jim created a special forum for the short attention types to bitch daily about which yank they currently hate the most, but when i can count 3 sori sucks threads on one page, it seems the juvenile bitching has spilled over into the yankees forum, you know where we actually have intelligent discussion supportd by facts rather than a bunch of nonsense about how many mistakes some couch potato thinks our more than qualified former allstar now hof catcher and ws winning manager...

    i know, i know, this is how some spend the summer.. bitching, bitching and bitching and then they pat themselves on the back for "supporting" the greatest team on the face of the planet when the yankees win... or better yet, some have even claimed their constant bitching and second guessing has been directly responsible for players or the team emerging from slumps.. imagine, who wouldda thunk it could be so simple.. forget it, don't answer that question..

    amyways in case any of the growing number of sori critics care to discuss facts, the following is a statitical comparison of mr soriano to his peers.. rather than comparing him to some couch potato's superhuman standards, these comaprisons are to players similarly situated be it in the lineup or the field... and for what it's worth, yeah sori's struggled some since the break, jeter ventura and posada and to a degree mondy are the only yanks not currently struggling... anyways it's ridiculous to judge a player's value based on a couple weeks anyways...


    AL Leaders in Multi-hit Games (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team Multi-H
    1 Ichiro Suzuki Sea 49
    2 Michael Young Tex 46
    3 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 43
    4 Alfonso Soriano NYY 41
    5t Garret Anderson Ana 39
    5t Raul Ibanez KC 39
    5t Vernon Wells Tor 39
    8 Hideki Matsui NYY 38
    9t Rocco Baldelli TB 36
    9t Hank Blalock Tex 36
    9t Todd Walker Bos 36


    AL Leaders in BA, 1st Pitch in Play (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (.6 PA/Game)

    Rank Player Team BA
    1 Alfonso Soriano NYY .435 ( 27/62 )
    2 Vernon Wells Tor .370 ( 30/81 )
    3 Nomar Garciaparra Bos .365 ( 38/104 )
    4 Ichiro Suzuki Sea .359 ( 28/78 )
    5 Jay Gibbons Bal .328 ( 21/64 )
    6 Aubrey Huff TB .328 ( 19/58 )
    7 Carl Crawford TB .313 ( 20/64 )
    8 Todd Walker Bos .301 ( 22/73 )
    9 A.J. Pierzynski Min .273 ( 18/66 )



    AL Leaders in BA on the Road (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (1.5 PA/Game)

    Rank Player Team BA
    1 Edgar Martinez Sea .359 ( 55/153 )
    2 Garret Anderson Ana .350 ( 72/206 )
    3 Milton Bradley Cle .341 ( 57/167 )
    4 Ichiro Suzuki Sea .339 ( 76/224 )
    5 Shannon Stewart Min .335 ( 56/167 )
    6 Melvin Mora Bal .325 ( 51/157 )
    7 Aubrey Huff TB .318 ( 62/195 )
    8 A.J. Pierzynski Min .316 ( 50/158 )
    9 Alfonso Soriano NYY .312 ( 74/237 )
    10 Doug Mientkiewicz Min .312 ( 48/154 )


    AL Leaders in Extra Bases Taken as Runner (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (.2 Opp/Game)

    Rank Player Team XB Taken
    1 Raul Ibanez KC 0.69 ( 25/36 )
    2 Terrence Long Oak 0.69 ( 18/26 )
    3 Alfonso Soriano NYY 0.66 ( 21/32 )
    4 Carlos Beltran KC 0.63 ( 19/30 )
    5 David Eckstein Ana 0.62 ( 24/39 )
    6 Alex Rodriguez Tex 0.61 ( 17/28 )
    7 Randy Winn Sea 0.61 ( 23/38 )
    8 Deivi Cruz Bal 0.60 ( 18/30 )
    9t Carl Everett CWS 0.59 ( 16/27 )
    9t Vernon Wells Tor 0.59 ( 16/27 )


    AL Leaders in Leadoff OBA (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (.9 PA/Game)

    Rank Player Team OBA
    1 Aaron Guiel KC .404 ( 42/104 )
    2 Jerry Hairston Jr. Bal .389 ( 72/185 )
    3 Ichiro Suzuki Sea .380 ( 176/463 )
    4 Carl Everett CWS .362 ( 50/138 )
    5 Shannon Stewart Min .362 ( 140/387 )
    6 Brian Roberts Bal .359 ( 94/262 )
    7 Michael Young Tex .356 ( 85/239 )
    8 Reed Johnson Tor .351 ( 52/148 )
    9 Coco Crisp Cle .346 ( 56/162 )
    10 D'Angelo Jimenez Cin .344 ( 84/244 )
    11 Alfonso Soriano NYY .343 ( 152/443 )
    12 Matt Lawton Cle .337 ( 61/181 )
    13 Eric Byrnes Oak .335 ( 83/248 )
    14 Mark Ellis Oak .331 ( 56/169 )
    15 Desi Relaford KC .326 ( 46/141 )
    16 David Eckstein Ana .325 ( 115/354 )
    17 Johnny Damon Bos .325 ( 135/416 )
    18 Michael Tucker KC .319 ( 68/213 )
    19 Jacque Jones Min .314 ( 95/303 )
    20 Carl Crawford TB .309 ( 85/275 )



    AL Leaders in BA vs RH Pitchers (Thru games of May 13, 2003)
    (.8 PA/Game)

    Rank Player Team BA
    1 Hank Blalock Tex .429 ( 42/98 )
    2 Bret Boone Sea .370 ( 34/92 )
    3 Jacque Jones Min .354 ( 35/99 )
    4 Carl Everett Tex .351 ( 34/97 )
    5 Rocco Baldelli TB .350 ( 41/117 )
    6 Brad Fullmer Ana .346 ( 27/78 )
    7 Frank Catalanotto Tor .345 ( 41/119 )
    8 Alfonso Soriano NYY .341 ( 46/135 )
    9 Nick Johnson NYY .340 ( 32/94 )
    10 Michael Young Tex .340 ( 34/100 )


    AL Leaders in Runs/Times Reached Base (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (3.1 PA/Game)

    Rank Player Team Runs/OB
    1 Vernon Wells Tor 0.50 ( 84/168 )
    2 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 0.48 ( 83/172 )
    3 Alfonso Soriano NYY 0.48 ( 78/163 )
    4 Joe Randa KC 0.47 ( 46/97 )
    5 Frank Catalanotto Tor 0.47 ( 63/134 )
    6 Johnny Damon Bos 0.46 ( 72/156 )
    7 Carl Everett CWS 0.46 ( 63/137 )
    8 Cristian Guzman Min 0.46 ( 51/111 )
    9 Terrence Long Oak 0.46 ( 50/109 )
    10 Jacque Jones Min 0.45 ( 53/118 )

    AL Leaders in % Strikes Taken (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (9.3 Pitches/Game)

    Rank Player Team %Strikes
    1 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 61.2 ( 595/972 )
    2 Jacque Jones Min 62.4 ( 509/816 )
    3 A.J. Pierzynski Min 63.0 ( 447/709 )
    4 Toby Hall TB 64.2 ( 458/713 )
    5 Alfonso Soriano NYY 64.7 ( 758/1172 )
    6 Deivi Cruz Bal 64.9 ( 492/758 )
    7 Carl Crawford TB 66.9 ( 631/943 )
    8 Brandon Phillips Cle 69.8 ( 516/739 )
    9 Rocco Baldelli TB 70.5 ( 731/1037 )
    10 Juan Gonzalez Tex 71.2 ( 606/851 )

    AL Leaders in SB Attempt (/1BH+BB+HBP) (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (3.1 PA/Game)

    Rank Player Team SB Att%
    1 Carl Crawford TB .323 ( 32/99 )
    2 Alfonso Soriano NYY .267 ( 31/116 )
    3 Raul Mondesi NYY .264 ( 24/91 )
    4 Carlos Beltran KC .261 ( 31/119 )
    5 Rocco Baldelli TB .224 ( 24/107 )
    6 Ichiro Suzuki Sea .219 ( 32/146 )
    7 Johnny Damon Bos .202 ( 23/114 )
    8 Desi Relaford KC .198 ( 18/91 )
    9 Cristian Guzman Min .191 ( 17/89 )
    10 Michael Tucker KC .183 ( 17/93 )


    AL Leaders in Home Runs (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team HR
    1 Carlos Delgado Tor 30
    2 Jason Giambi NYY 29
    3 Vernon Wells Tor 28
    4 Bret Boone Sea 27
    5t Manny Ramirez Bos 25
    5t Frank Thomas CWS 25
    7t Juan Gonzalez Tex 24
    7t Rafael Palmeiro Tex 24
    7t Alex Rodriguez Tex 24
    7t Alfonso Soriano NYY 24
    11 Garret Anderson Ana 23


    AL Leaders in Runs Scored (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team R
    1 Vernon Wells Tor 84
    2 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 83
    3t Carlos Delgado Tor 82
    3t Manny Ramirez Bos 82
    5 Alfonso Soriano NYY 78
    6 Bret Boone Sea 74
    7t Alex Rodriguez Tex 73
    7t Ichiro Suzuki Sea 73
    9 Johnny Damon Bos 72
    10 Michael Young Tex 68

    AL Leaders in Hits (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team H
    1 Ichiro Suzuki Sea 149
    2 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 139
    3 Michael Young Tex 137
    4 Vernon Wells Tor 136
    5 Garret Anderson Ana 131
    6 Alfonso Soriano NYY 128
    7 Manny Ramirez Bos 125
    8t Rocco Baldelli TB 124
    8t Hideki Matsui NYY 124
    8t Magglio Ordonez CWS 124
    11 Bret Boone Sea 122


    AL Leaders in Singles (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team 1B
    1 Ichiro Suzuki Sea 118
    2 Michael Young Tex 100
    3 Rocco Baldelli TB 87
    4 Hideki Matsui NYY 83
    5t Nomar Garciaparra Bos 81
    5t Alfonso Soriano NYY 81
    7 Todd Walker Bos 80
    8t Carl Crawford TB 79
    8t Randy Winn Sea 79
    10 Hank Blalock Tex 76


    AL Leaders in Total Bases (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team TB
    1 Vernon Wells Tor 258
    2 Garret Anderson Ana 243
    3 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 241
    4 Carlos Delgado Tor 237
    5 Bret Boone Sea 234
    6 Manny Ramirez Bos 228
    7 Alfonso Soriano NYY 227
    8 Alex Rodriguez Tex 218
    9 Magglio Ordonez CWS 217
    10 Aubrey Huff TB 213
    AL Leaders in Stolen Bases (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team SB
    1 Carlos Beltran KC 30
    2t Carl Crawford TB 27
    2t Alfonso Soriano NYY 27
    4 Ichiro Suzuki Sea 26
    5t Johnny Damon Bos 20
    5t Alex Sanchez Det 20
    7 Rocco Baldelli TB 18
    8t Raul Mondesi NYY 17
    8t Brian Roberts Bal 17
    10t Desi Relaford KC 16
    10t Randy Winn Sea 16


    AL Leaders in Times On Base (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team TOB
    1t Carlos Delgado Tor 193
    1t Manny Ramirez Bos 193
    3 Jason Giambi NYY 189
    4 Ichiro Suzuki Sea 177
    5t Milton Bradley Cle 176
    5t Alex Rodriguez Tex 176
    7 Frank Thomas CWS 173
    8 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 172
    9 Bret Boone Sea 169
    10 Vernon Wells Tor 168
    11t Erubiel Durazo Oak 166
    11t Magglio Ordonez CWS 166
    13 Alfonso Soriano NYY 163
    14 Hideki Matsui NYY 161
    15t Aubrey Huff TB 160
    15t Michael Young Tex 160
    17 Jorge Posada NYY 157
    18 Johnny Damon Bos 156
    19 Tim Salmon Ana 155
    20t Garret Anderson Ana 153
    20t Jeff Conine Bal 153


    AL Leaders in SB Success % (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (.1 SB Att/Game)

    Rank Player Team SB%
    1 Carlos Beltran KC 96.8 ( 30/31 )
    2 Marlon Anderson TB 93.3 ( 14/15 )
    3 Brian Roberts Bal 89.5 ( 17/19 )
    4 Desi Relaford KC 88.9 ( 16/18 )
    5 Alfonso Soriano NYY 87.1 ( 27/31 )
    6 Johnny Damon Bos 87.0 ( 20/23 )
    7 Carl Crawford TB 84.4 ( 27/32 )
    8 Randy Winn Sea 84.2 ( 16/19 )
    9 Ichiro Suzuki Sea 81.3 ( 26/32 )
    10 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 76.5 ( 13/17 )


    AL Leaders in Extra Base Hits (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team XBH
    1 Vernon Wells Tor 63
    2 Garret Anderson Ana 62
    3t Carlos Delgado Tor 58
    3t Nomar Garciaparra Bos 58
    5t Bret Boone Sea 55
    5t Aubrey Huff TB 55
    7t Magglio Ordonez CWS 52
    7t Manny Ramirez Bos 52
    9 Frank Thomas CWS 50
    10t Bill Mueller Bos 49
    10t Alex Rodriguez Tex 49
    12 Dmitri Young Det 48
    13 Alfonso Soriano NYY 47
    14 Jeff Conine Bal 46
    15t Jay Gibbons Bal 43
    15t Kevin Millar Bos 43
    15t Miguel Tejada Oak 43
    18t Eric Chavez Oak 42
    18t Johnny Damon Bos 42
    18t Juan Gonzalez Tex 42
    18t Raul Mondesi NYY 42
    18t Jason Varitek Bos

    AL Leaders in Runs Created (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team RC
    1 Carlos Delgado Tor 103
    2 Manny Ramirez Bos 96
    3t Nomar Garciaparra Bos 88
    3t Jason Giambi NYY 88
    5 Vernon Wells Tor 86
    6 Bret Boone Sea 85
    7 Frank Thomas CWS 84
    8 Alex Rodriguez Tex 83
    9t Garret Anderson Ana 82
    9t Ichiro Suzuki Sea 82
    11t Magglio Ordonez CWS 79
    11t Alfonso Soriano NYY 79


    AL Leaders in Power/Speed Number (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team Pow/Spd
    1 Alfonso Soriano NYY 25
    2 Carlos Beltran KC 19
    3 Raul Mondesi NYY 16
    4t Nomar Garciaparra Bos 14
    4t Alex Rodriguez Tex 14
    4t Ichiro Suzuki Sea 14
    7t Rocco Baldelli TB 12
    7t Mike Cameron Sea 12
    7t Johnny Damon Bos 12
    7t Carlos Lee CWS 12
    11t Bret Boone Sea 11
    11t Eric Chavez Oak 11


    RARP 2b Majors:
    SECOND BASEMEN
    Name Team(s) Pos Out PA EQA EQR RAR RAP RARP
    Boone, Bret SEA 2B 283. 450. 0.330 88.3 52.4 37.7 51.2
    Soriano, Alfonso NYY 2B 327. 486. 0.298 79.5 38.1 21.1 36.7
    Giles, Marcus ATL 2B 247. 399. 0.303 62.5 31.2 18.0 29.9
    Vidro, Jose MON 2B 234. 396. 0.304 59.8 30.1 17.7 28.9
    Young, Michael TEX 2B 287. 446. 0.287 63.4 27.0 12.2 25.8
    Loretta, Mark SDP 2B 258. 411. 0.287 57.1 24.4 11.1 23.4
    Polanco, Placido PHI 2B 244. 382. 0.289 54.8 23.9 11.0 22.7
    Durham, Ray SFG 2B 230. 363. 0.288 51.3 22.1 10.1 21.1
    Castillo, Luis FLA 2B 281. 437. 0.277 56.6 21.0 6.4 19.8
    Kent, Jeff HOU 2B 215. 332. 0.284 46.1 18.8 7.4 17.7



    RARP by Team:

    NY Yankees NYY AL 958 2637. 0.280 545.1 553. 575. 22.
    Name Team Lge Pos Out PA EQA EQR RAR RAP RARP
    Giambi, Jason NYY AL 1B 259. 448. 0.338 86.0 53.1 29.5 44.5
    Posada, Jorge NYY AL C 228. 383. 0.321 66.6 37.7 29.2 39.2
    Soriano, Alfonso NYY AL 2B 327. 486. 0.298 79.5 38.1 21.1 36.7
    Jeter, Derek NYY AL SS 185. 301. 0.308 48.6 25.1 18.0 26.2
    Matsui, Hideki NYY AL LF 296. 457. 0.284 63.6 26.1 1.8 18.3
    Johnson, Nick NYY AL 1B 90. 165. 0.348 32.2 20.8 12.6 17.8
    Mondesi, Raul NYY AL RF 275. 401. 0.284 59.1 24.3 1.6 16.9
    Williams, Bernie NYY AL CF 171. 273. 0.288 37.9 16.3 4.4 13.3
    Ventura, Robin NYY AL 3B 208. 315. 0.268 38.5 12.1 1.3 11.2


    VORP 2b AL:


    Boone_Bret 57.8
    Soriano_Alfonso 35.4
    Young_Michael 28.4
    Walker_Todd 14.8
    Relaford_Desi 13.3
    Roberts_Brian 13.2
    Hairston_Jerry 10.6
    Hudson_Orlando 8.6


    VORP by Team:

    NYA
    Soriano_Alfonso 35.4
    Matsui_Hideki 17.9
    Giambi_Jason 37.8
    Mondesi_Raul 10.0
    Posada_Jorge 32.8
    Ventura_Robin 10.0
    Jeter_Derek 27.6
    Williams_Bernie 10.5
    Zeile_Todd -4.1
    Johnson_Nick 17.1

    OPS Batting #1:

    Rk Player, Team BA OBP SLG OPS
    1 A. Soriano, NYY .289 .343 .507 .850
    2 I. Suzuki, Sea .342 .380 .468 .848
    3 S. Stewart, Min/Tor .309 .362 .462 .824
    4 J. Damon, Bos .261 .325 .411 .735
    5 D. Eckstein, Ana .241 .325 .305 .630

    Extra Base hits batting #1:
    Rk Player, Team XBH
    1 A. Soriano, NYY 43
    2 J. Damon, Bos 37
    3 S. Stewart, Min/Tor 35
    4 J. Jones, Min 31
    I. Suzuki, Sea 31
    6 E. Byrnes, Oak 25
    7 D. Jimenez, CWS 22
    8 M. Young, Tex 21
    9 M. Tucker, KC 19
    10 C. Crawford, TB 18

    Total bases batting #1:
    Rk Player, Team TB
    1 A. Soriano, NYY 207
    2 I. Suzuki, Sea 204
    3 S. Stewart, Min/Tor 160
    4 J. Damon, Bos 154
    5 J. Jones, Min 139
    6 E. Byrnes, Oak 106
    7 D. Jimenez, CWS 101
    8 M. Young, Tex 101
    9 C. Crawford, TB 99
    10 D. Ecstein, ANA 95


    Isolated Power batting #1:
    Rk Player, Team IsoP
    1 A. Soriano, NYY .218
    2 S. Stewart, Min/Tor .153
    3 J. Damon, Bos .149
    4 I. Suzuki, Sea .126
    5 D. Eckstein, Ana .064

    Runs Created / 27 outs batting #1:
    Rk Player, Team RC27
    1 I. Suzuki, Sea 7.31
    2 A. Soriano, NYY 6.55
    3 S. Stewart, Min/Tor 6.04
    4 J. Damon, Bos 5.10
    5 D. Eckstein, Ana 3.62


    Secondary Average Batting #1:
    Rk Player, Team SecA
    1 A. Soriano, NYY .328
    2 J. Damon, Bos .283
    3 S. Stewart, Min/Tor .237
    4 I. Suzuki, Sea .225
    5 D. Eckstein, Ana .174




    OPS 2b:

    Rk Player, Team BA OBP SLG OPS
    1 B. Boone, Sea .303 .371 .581 .952
    2 A. Soriano, NYY .284 .334 .503 .837
    3 M. Young, Tex .322 .354 .467 .821
    4 T. Walker, Bos .288 .332 .433 .764
    5 O. Hudson, Tor .278 .339 .399 .738
    6 M. Ellis, Oak .255 .327 .375 .703

    Extra basehits as 2b
    Rk Player, Team XBH
    1 B. Boone, Sea 55
    2 A. Soriano, NYY 47
    3 M. Young, Tex 37
    4 T. Walker, Bos 36
    5 M. Ellis, Oak 29
    6 D. Jimenez, CWS 23
    O. Hudson, Tor 23
    8 M. Anderson, TB 21
    9 B. Phillips, Cle 20
    10 L. Rivas, Min 17

    Total Bases 2b
    Rk Player, Team TB
    1 B. Boone, Sea 234
    2 A. Soriano, NYY 227
    3 M. Young, Tex 197
    4 T. Walker, Bos 170
    5 M. Ellis, Oak 131
    6 O. Hudson, Tor 126
    7 D. Jimenez, CWS 110
    8 M. Anderson, TB 104
    9 L. Rivas, Min 101
    10 A. Kennedy, Ana 93

    Isolated power 2b:
    Rk Player, Team IsoP
    1 B. Boone, Sea .278
    2 A. Soriano, NYY .220
    3 T. Walker, Bos .145
    4 M. Young, Tex .145
    5 M. Ellis, Oak .120
    6 O. Hudson, Tor .120

    Runs created / 27 outs 2b:
    Rk Player, Team RC27
    1 B. Boone, Sea 7.30
    2 A. Soriano, NYY 6.35
    3 M. Young, Tex 6.19
    4 T. Walker, Bos 4.79
    5 O. Hudson, Tor 4.63
    6 M. Ellis, Oak 4.28


    Secondary Average 2b:
    Rk Player, Team SecA
    1 B. Boone, Sea .395
    2 A. Soriano, NYY .328
    3 M. Ellis, Oak .221
    4 T. Walker, Bos .219
    5 M. Young, Tex .218
    6 O. Hudson, Tor .209

    Yankees Team Splits

    OPS vs LHP:


    NAME BA OBP SLG OPS
    Derek Jeter .348 .400 .500 .900
    Jorge Posada .264 .404 .486 .891
    Ruben Sierra (43 Tex) .304 .320 .565 .885
    B. Williams .282 .400 .479 .879
    A. Soriano .275 .356 .488 .843
    Todd Zeile .233 .319 .500 .819
    Raul Mondesi .247 .299 .494 .793
    Hideki Matsui .309 .351 .415 .766
    Nick Johnson .250 .419 .333 .753

    OPS vs RHP:
    NAME BA OBP SLG OPS
    Jason Giambi .291 .450 .630 1.080
    Karim Garcia (24 Cle) .390 .405 .634 1.039
    Nick Johnson .321 .459 .547 1.006
    Jorge Posada .258 .407 .498 .905
    Derek Jeter .314 .389 .453 .842
    A. Soriano .286 .329 .507 .836
    Raul Mondesi .261 .339 .464 .803
    Hideki Matsui .290 .351 .451 .802
    Ruben Sierra (43 Tex) .303 .357 .438 .795
    John Flaherty .262 .311 .429 .740
    Robin Ventura .256 .346 .390 .737
    B. Williams .264 .360 .368 .728

    OPS Away:

    NAME BA OBP SLG OPS
    Nick Johnson .337 .477 .590 1.067
    Jason Giambi .275 .419 .640 1.059
    Ruben Sierra (43 Tex) .375 .444 .550 .994
    B. Williams .309 .395 .522 .917
    Jorge Posada .291 .408 .506 .913
    Derek Jeter .336 .425 .480 .905
    A. Soriano .312 .361 .540 .901
    Karim Garcia (24 Cle) .308 .333 .538 .872
    Raul Mondesi .259 .358 .481 .839
    John Flaherty .314 .368 .457 .826
    Robin Ventura .252 .337 .415 .752
    Hideki Matsui .271 .333 .404 .737

    OPS None On:

    NAME BA OBP SLG OPS
    Ruben Sierra (43 Tex) .341 .383 .614 .997
    Raul Mondesi .333 .402 .585 .987
    Jorge Posada .280 .423 .554 .978
    A. Soriano .302 .351 .552 .903
    Nick Johnson .270 .432 .444 .877
    Jason Giambi .229 .378 .457 .835
    Hideki Matsui .265 .328 .405 .732
    Derek Jeter .262 .330 .393 .723
    Juan Rivera .276 .323 .397 .719
    Karim Garcia (24 Cle) .296 .296 .407 .704
    B. Williams .225 .326 .350 .676
    Robin Ventura .217 .308 .326 .634


    Runners in Scoring Position:
    NAME BA OBP SLG OPS
    Karim Garcia (24 Cle) .375 .375 .750 1.125
    Jason Giambi .259 .425 .574 .999
    Derek Jeter .351 .465 .491 .956
    Jorge Posada .253 .429 .494 .923
    Hideki Matsui .336 .396 .521 .917
    B. Williams .292 .420 .415 .835
    Nick Johnson .243 .396 .432 .828
    A. Soriano .265 .330 .480 .811
    Ruben Sierra (43 Tex) .265 .357 .412 .769
    Juan Rivera .250 .317 .417 .734
    John Flaherty .313 .389 .313 .701
    Robin Ventura .234 .352 .273 .624
    Todd Zeile .152 .208 .348 .555
    Raul Mondesi .151 .252 .274 .526

    Runners in Scoring Position 2 outs:
    NAME BA OBP SLG OPS
    Derek Jeter .385 .543 .577 1.120
    A. Soriano .286 .388 .690 1.078
    Jason Giambi .222 .417 .533 .950
    B. Williams .286 .394 .500 .894
    Jorge Posada .222 .417 .444 .861
    Ruben Sierra (43 Tex) .267 .421 .333 .754
    Juan Rivera .286 .375 .357 .732
    Raul Mondesi .204 .316 .367 .683
    Hideki Matsui .245 .355 .321 .676
    Nick Johnson .182 .280 .364 .644
    Robin Ventura .225 .340 .250 .590


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    Re: Soriano Numbers:

    Originally posted by Ansky39

    AL Leaders in Multi-hit Games (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team Multi-H
    1 Ichiro Suzuki Sea 49
    2 Michael Young Tex 46
    3 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 43
    4 Alfonso Soriano NYY 41
    5t Garret Anderson Ana 39
    5t Raul Ibanez KC 39
    5t Vernon Wells Tor 39
    8 Hideki Matsui NYY 38
    9t Rocco Baldelli TB 36
    9t Hank Blalock Tex 36
    9t Todd Walker Bos 36


    AL Leaders in BA, 1st Pitch in Play (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (.6 PA/Game)
    Rank Player Team BA
    1 Alfonso Soriano NYY .435 ( 27/62 )
    2 Vernon Wells Tor .370 ( 30/81 )
    3 Nomar Garciaparra Bos .365 ( 38/104 )
    4 Ichiro Suzuki Sea .359 ( 28/78 )
    5 Jay Gibbons Bal .328 ( 21/64 )
    6 Aubrey Huff TB .328 ( 19/58 )
    7 Carl Crawford TB .313 ( 20/64 )
    8 Todd Walker Bos .301 ( 22/73 )
    9 A.J. Pierzynski Min .273 ( 18/66 )



    AL Leaders in BA on the Road (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (1.5 PA/Game)
    Rank Player Team BA
    1 Edgar Martinez Sea .359 ( 55/153 )
    2 Garret Anderson Ana .350 ( 72/206 )
    3 Milton Bradley Cle .341 ( 57/167 )
    4 Ichiro Suzuki Sea .339 ( 76/224 )
    5 Shannon Stewart Min .335 ( 56/167 )
    6 Melvin Mora Bal .325 ( 51/157 )
    7 Aubrey Huff TB .318 ( 62/195 )
    8 A.J. Pierzynski Min .316 ( 50/158 )
    9 Alfonso Soriano NYY .312 ( 74/237 )
    10 Doug Mientkiewicz Min .312 ( 48/154 )


    AL Leaders in Extra Bases Taken as Runner (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (.2 Opp/Game)
    Rank Player Team XB Taken
    1 Raul Ibanez KC 0.69 ( 25/36 )
    2 Terrence Long Oak 0.69 ( 18/26 )
    3 Alfonso Soriano NYY 0.66 ( 21/32 )
    4 Carlos Beltran KC 0.63 ( 19/30 )
    5 David Eckstein Ana 0.62 ( 24/39 )
    6 Alex Rodriguez Tex 0.61 ( 17/28 )
    7 Randy Winn Sea 0.61 ( 23/38 )
    8 Deivi Cruz Bal 0.60 ( 18/30 )
    9t Carl Everett CWS 0.59 ( 16/27 )
    9t Vernon Wells Tor 0.59 ( 16/27 )


    AL Leaders in Leadoff OBA (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (.9 PA/Game)
    Rank Player Team OBA
    1 Aaron Guiel KC .404 ( 42/104 )
    2 Jerry Hairston Jr. Bal .389 ( 72/185 )
    3 Ichiro Suzuki Sea .380 ( 176/463 )
    4 Carl Everett CWS .362 ( 50/138 )
    5 Shannon Stewart Min .362 ( 140/387 )
    6 Brian Roberts Bal .359 ( 94/262 )
    7 Michael Young Tex .356 ( 85/239 )
    8 Reed Johnson Tor .351 ( 52/148 )
    9 Coco Crisp Cle .346 ( 56/162 )
    10 D'Angelo Jimenez Cin .344 ( 84/244 )
    11 Alfonso Soriano NYY .343 ( 152/443 )
    12 Matt Lawton Cle .337 ( 61/181 )
    13 Eric Byrnes Oak .335 ( 83/248 )
    14 Mark Ellis Oak .331 ( 56/169 )
    15 Desi Relaford KC .326 ( 46/141 )
    16 David Eckstein Ana .325 ( 115/354 )
    17 Johnny Damon Bos .325 ( 135/416 )
    18 Michael Tucker KC .319 ( 68/213 )
    19 Jacque Jones Min .314 ( 95/303 )
    20 Carl Crawford TB .309 ( 85/275 )



    AL Leaders in BA vs RH Pitchers (Thru games of May 13, 2003)
    (.8 PA/Game)
    Rank Player Team BA
    1 Hank Blalock Tex .429 ( 42/98 )
    2 Bret Boone Sea .370 ( 34/92 )
    3 Jacque Jones Min .354 ( 35/99 )
    4 Carl Everett Tex .351 ( 34/97 )
    5 Rocco Baldelli TB .350 ( 41/117 )
    6 Brad Fullmer Ana .346 ( 27/78 )
    7 Frank Catalanotto Tor .345 ( 41/119 )
    8 Alfonso Soriano NYY .341 ( 46/135 )
    9 Nick Johnson NYY .340 ( 32/94 )
    10 Michael Young Tex .340 ( 34/100 )


    AL Leaders in Runs/Times Reached Base (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (3.1 PA/Game)
    Rank Player Team Runs/OB
    1 Vernon Wells Tor 0.50 ( 84/168 )
    2 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 0.48 ( 83/172 )
    3 Alfonso Soriano NYY 0.48 ( 78/163 )
    4 Joe Randa KC 0.47 ( 46/97 )
    5 Frank Catalanotto Tor 0.47 ( 63/134 )
    6 Johnny Damon Bos 0.46 ( 72/156 )
    7 Carl Everett CWS 0.46 ( 63/137 )
    8 Cristian Guzman Min 0.46 ( 51/111 )
    9 Terrence Long Oak 0.46 ( 50/109 )
    10 Jacque Jones Min 0.45 ( 53/118 )

    AL Leaders in % Strikes Taken (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (9.3 Pitches/Game)
    Rank Player Team %Strikes
    1 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 61.2 ( 595/972 )
    2 Jacque Jones Min 62.4 ( 509/816 )
    3 A.J. Pierzynski Min 63.0 ( 447/709 )
    4 Toby Hall TB 64.2 ( 458/713 )
    5 Alfonso Soriano NYY 64.7 ( 758/1172 )
    6 Deivi Cruz Bal 64.9 ( 492/758 )
    7 Carl Crawford TB 66.9 ( 631/943 )
    8 Brandon Phillips Cle 69.8 ( 516/739 )
    9 Rocco Baldelli TB 70.5 ( 731/1037 )
    10 Juan Gonzalez Tex 71.2 ( 606/851 )

    AL Leaders in SB Attempt (/1BH+BB+HBP) (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (3.1 PA/Game)
    Rank Player Team SB Att%
    1 Carl Crawford TB .323 ( 32/99 )
    2 Alfonso Soriano NYY .267 ( 31/116 )
    3 Raul Mondesi NYY .264 ( 24/91 )
    4 Carlos Beltran KC .261 ( 31/119 )
    5 Rocco Baldelli TB .224 ( 24/107 )
    6 Ichiro Suzuki Sea .219 ( 32/146 )
    7 Johnny Damon Bos .202 ( 23/114 )
    8 Desi Relaford KC .198 ( 18/91 )
    9 Cristian Guzman Min .191 ( 17/89 )
    10 Michael Tucker KC .183 ( 17/93 )


    AL Leaders in Home Runs (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team HR
    1 Carlos Delgado Tor 30
    2 Jason Giambi NYY 29
    3 Vernon Wells Tor 28
    4 Bret Boone Sea 27
    5t Manny Ramirez Bos 25
    5t Frank Thomas CWS 25
    7t Juan Gonzalez Tex 24
    7t Rafael Palmeiro Tex 24
    7t Alex Rodriguez Tex 24
    7t Alfonso Soriano NYY 24
    11 Garret Anderson Ana 23


    AL Leaders in Runs Scored (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team R
    1 Vernon Wells Tor 84
    2 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 83
    3t Carlos Delgado Tor 82
    3t Manny Ramirez Bos 82
    5 Alfonso Soriano NYY 78
    6 Bret Boone Sea 74
    7t Alex Rodriguez Tex 73
    7t Ichiro Suzuki Sea 73
    9 Johnny Damon Bos 72
    10 Michael Young Tex 68

    AL Leaders in Hits (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team H
    1 Ichiro Suzuki Sea 149
    2 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 139
    3 Michael Young Tex 137
    4 Vernon Wells Tor 136
    5 Garret Anderson Ana 131
    6 Alfonso Soriano NYY 128
    7 Manny Ramirez Bos 125
    8t Rocco Baldelli TB 124
    8t Hideki Matsui NYY 124
    8t Magglio Ordonez CWS 124
    11 Bret Boone Sea 122


    AL Leaders in Singles (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team 1B
    1 Ichiro Suzuki Sea 118
    2 Michael Young Tex 100
    3 Rocco Baldelli TB 87
    4 Hideki Matsui NYY 83
    5t Nomar Garciaparra Bos 81
    5t Alfonso Soriano NYY 81
    7 Todd Walker Bos 80
    8t Carl Crawford TB 79
    8t Randy Winn Sea 79
    10 Hank Blalock Tex 76


    AL Leaders in Total Bases (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team TB
    1 Vernon Wells Tor 258
    2 Garret Anderson Ana 243
    3 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 241
    4 Carlos Delgado Tor 237
    5 Bret Boone Sea 234
    6 Manny Ramirez Bos 228
    7 Alfonso Soriano NYY 227
    8 Alex Rodriguez Tex 218
    9 Magglio Ordonez CWS 217
    10 Aubrey Huff TB 213
    AL Leaders in Stolen Bases (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team SB
    1 Carlos Beltran KC 30
    2t Carl Crawford TB 27
    2t Alfonso Soriano NYY 27
    4 Ichiro Suzuki Sea 26
    5t Johnny Damon Bos 20
    5t Alex Sanchez Det 20
    7 Rocco Baldelli TB 18
    8t Raul Mondesi NYY 17
    8t Brian Roberts Bal 17
    10t Desi Relaford KC 16
    10t Randy Winn Sea 16


    AL Leaders in Times On Base (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team TOB
    1t Carlos Delgado Tor 193
    1t Manny Ramirez Bos 193
    3 Jason Giambi NYY 189
    4 Ichiro Suzuki Sea 177
    5t Milton Bradley Cle 176
    5t Alex Rodriguez Tex 176
    7 Frank Thomas CWS 173
    8 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 172
    9 Bret Boone Sea 169
    10 Vernon Wells Tor 168
    11t Erubiel Durazo Oak 166
    11t Magglio Ordonez CWS 166
    13 Alfonso Soriano NYY 163
    14 Hideki Matsui NYY 161
    15t Aubrey Huff TB 160
    15t Michael Young Tex 160
    17 Jorge Posada NYY 157
    18 Johnny Damon Bos 156
    19 Tim Salmon Ana 155
    20t Garret Anderson Ana 153
    20t Jeff Conine Bal 153


    AL Leaders in SB Success % (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (.1 SB Att/Game)
    Rank Player Team SB%
    1 Carlos Beltran KC 96.8 ( 30/31 )
    2 Marlon Anderson TB 93.3 ( 14/15 )
    3 Brian Roberts Bal 89.5 ( 17/19 )
    4 Desi Relaford KC 88.9 ( 16/18 )
    5 Alfonso Soriano NYY 87.1 ( 27/31 )
    6 Johnny Damon Bos 87.0 ( 20/23 )
    7 Carl Crawford TB 84.4 ( 27/32 )
    8 Randy Winn Sea 84.2 ( 16/19 )
    9 Ichiro Suzuki Sea 81.3 ( 26/32 )
    10 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 76.5 ( 13/17 )


    AL Leaders in Extra Base Hits (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team XBH
    1 Vernon Wells Tor 63
    2 Garret Anderson Ana 62
    3t Carlos Delgado Tor 58
    3t Nomar Garciaparra Bos 58
    5t Bret Boone Sea 55
    5t Aubrey Huff TB 55
    7t Magglio Ordonez CWS 52
    7t Manny Ramirez Bos 52
    9 Frank Thomas CWS 50
    10t Bill Mueller Bos 49
    10t Alex Rodriguez Tex 49
    12 Dmitri Young Det 48
    13 Alfonso Soriano NYY 47
    14 Jeff Conine Bal 46
    15t Jay Gibbons Bal 43
    15t Kevin Millar Bos 43
    15t Miguel Tejada Oak 43
    18t Eric Chavez Oak 42
    18t Johnny Damon Bos 42
    18t Juan Gonzalez Tex 42
    18t Raul Mondesi NYY 42
    18t Jason Varitek Bos

    AL Leaders in Runs Created (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team RC
    1 Carlos Delgado Tor 103
    2 Manny Ramirez Bos 96
    3t Nomar Garciaparra Bos 88
    3t Jason Giambi NYY 88
    5 Vernon Wells Tor 86
    6 Bret Boone Sea 85
    7 Frank Thomas CWS 84
    8 Alex Rodriguez Tex 83
    9t Garret Anderson Ana 82
    9t Ichiro Suzuki Sea 82
    11t Magglio Ordonez CWS 79
    11t Alfonso Soriano NYY 79


    AL Leaders in Power/Speed Number (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team Pow/Spd
    1 Alfonso Soriano NYY 25
    2 Carlos Beltran KC 19
    3 Raul Mondesi NYY 16
    4t Nomar Garciaparra Bos 14
    4t Alex Rodriguez Tex 14
    4t Ichiro Suzuki Sea 14
    7t Rocco Baldelli TB 12
    7t Mike Cameron Sea 12
    7t Johnny Damon Bos 12
    7t Carlos Lee CWS 12
    11t Bret Boone Sea 11
    11t Eric Chavez Oak 11


    RARP 2b Majors:
    SECOND BASEMEN
    Name Team(s) Pos Out PA EQA EQR RAR RAP RARP
    Boone, Bret SEA 2B 283. 450. 0.330 88.3 52.4 37.7 51.2
    Soriano, Alfonso NYY 2B 327. 486. 0.298 79.5 38.1 21.1 36.7
    Giles, Marcus ATL 2B 247. 399. 0.303 62.5 31.2 18.0 29.9
    Vidro, Jose MON 2B 234. 396. 0.304 59.8 30.1 17.7 28.9
    Young, Michael TEX 2B 287. 446. 0.287 63.4 27.0 12.2 25.8
    Loretta, Mark SDP 2B 258. 411. 0.287 57.1 24.4 11.1 23.4
    Polanco, Placido PHI 2B 244. 382. 0.289 54.8 23.9 11.0 22.7
    Durham, Ray SFG 2B 230. 363. 0.288 51.3 22.1 10.1 21.1
    Castillo, Luis FLA 2B 281. 437. 0.277 56.6 21.0 6.4 19.8
    Kent, Jeff HOU 2B 215. 332. 0.284 46.1 18.8 7.4 17.7



    RARP by Team:

    NY Yankees NYY AL 958 2637. 0.280 545.1 553. 575. 22.
    Name Team Lge Pos Out PA EQA EQR RAR RAP RARP
    Giambi, Jason NYY AL 1B 259. 448. 0.338 86.0 53.1 29.5 44.5
    Posada, Jorge NYY AL C 228. 383. 0.321 66.6 37.7 29.2 39.2
    Soriano, Alfonso NYY AL 2B 327. 486. 0.298 79.5 38.1 21.1 36.7
    Jeter, Derek NYY AL SS 185. 301. 0.308 48.6 25.1 18.0 26.2
    Matsui, Hideki NYY AL LF 296. 457. 0.284 63.6 26.1 1.8 18.3
    Johnson, Nick NYY AL 1B 90. 165. 0.348 32.2 20.8 12.6 17.8
    Mondesi, Raul NYY AL RF 275. 401. 0.284 59.1 24.3 1.6 16.9
    Williams, Bernie NYY AL CF 171. 273. 0.288 37.9 16.3 4.4 13.3
    Ventura, Robin NYY AL 3B 208. 315. 0.268 38.5 12.1 1.3 11.2


    VORP 2b AL:


    Boone_Bret 57.8
    Soriano_Alfonso 35.4
    Young_Michael 28.4
    Walker_Todd 14.8
    Relaford_Desi 13.3
    Roberts_Brian 13.2
    Hairston_Jerry 10.6
    Hudson_Orlando 8.6


    VORP by Team:

    NYA
    Soriano_Alfonso 35.4
    Matsui_Hideki 17.9
    Giambi_Jason 37.8
    Mondesi_Raul 10.0
    Posada_Jorge 32.8
    Ventura_Robin 10.0
    Jeter_Derek 27.6
    Williams_Bernie 10.5
    Zeile_Todd -4.1
    Johnson_Nick 17.1

    OPS Batting #1:

    Rk Player, Team BA OBP SLG OPS
    1 A. Soriano, NYY .289 .343 .507 .850
    2 I. Suzuki, Sea .342 .380 .468 .848
    3 S. Stewart, Min/Tor .309 .362 .462 .824
    4 J. Damon, Bos .261 .325 .411 .735
    5 D. Eckstein, Ana .241 .325 .305 .630

    Extra Base hits batting #1:
    Rk Player, Team XBH
    1 A. Soriano, NYY 43
    2 J. Damon, Bos 37
    3 S. Stewart, Min/Tor 35
    4 J. Jones, Min 31
    I. Suzuki, Sea 31
    6 E. Byrnes, Oak 25
    7 D. Jimenez, CWS 22
    8 M. Young, Tex 21
    9 M. Tucker, KC 19
    10 C. Crawford, TB 18

    Total bases batting #1:
    Rk Player, Team TB
    1 A. Soriano, NYY 207
    2 I. Suzuki, Sea 204
    3 S. Stewart, Min/Tor 160
    4 J. Damon, Bos 154
    5 J. Jones, Min 139
    6 E. Byrnes, Oak 106
    7 D. Jimenez, CWS 101
    8 M. Young, Tex 101
    9 C. Crawford, TB 99
    10 D. Ecstein, ANA 95


    Isolated Power batting #1:
    Rk Player, Team IsoP
    1 A. Soriano, NYY .218
    2 S. Stewart, Min/Tor .153
    3 J. Damon, Bos .149
    4 I. Suzuki, Sea .126
    5 D. Eckstein, Ana .064

    Runs Created / 27 outs batting #1:
    Rk Player, Team RC27
    1 I. Suzuki, Sea 7.31
    2 A. Soriano, NYY 6.55
    3 S. Stewart, Min/Tor 6.04
    4 J. Damon, Bos 5.10
    5 D. Eckstein, Ana 3.62


    Secondary Average Batting #1:
    Rk Player, Team SecA
    1 A. Soriano, NYY .328
    2 J. Damon, Bos .283
    3 S. Stewart, Min/Tor .237
    4 I. Suzuki, Sea .225
    5 D. Eckstein, Ana .174




    OPS 2b:

    Rk Player, Team BA OBP SLG OPS
    1 B. Boone, Sea .303 .371 .581 .952
    2 A. Soriano, NYY .284 .334 .503 .837
    3 M. Young, Tex .322 .354 .467 .821
    4 T. Walker, Bos .288 .332 .433 .764
    5 O. Hudson, Tor .278 .339 .399 .738
    6 M. Ellis, Oak .255 .327 .375 .703

    Extra basehits as 2b
    Rk Player, Team XBH
    1 B. Boone, Sea 55
    2 A. Soriano, NYY 47
    3 M. Young, Tex 37
    4 T. Walker, Bos 36
    5 M. Ellis, Oak 29
    6 D. Jimenez, CWS 23
    O. Hudson, Tor 23
    8 M. Anderson, TB 21
    9 B. Phillips, Cle 20
    10 L. Rivas, Min 17

    Total Bases 2b
    Rk Player, Team TB
    1 B. Boone, Sea 234
    2 A. Soriano, NYY 227
    3 M. Young, Tex 197
    4 T. Walker, Bos 170
    5 M. Ellis, Oak 131
    6 O. Hudson, Tor 126
    7 D. Jimenez, CWS 110
    8 M. Anderson, TB 104
    9 L. Rivas, Min 101
    10 A. Kennedy, Ana 93

    Isolated power 2b:
    Rk Player, Team IsoP
    1 B. Boone, Sea .278
    2 A. Soriano, NYY .220
    3 T. Walker, Bos .145
    4 M. Young, Tex .145
    5 M. Ellis, Oak .120
    6 O. Hudson, Tor .120

    Runs created / 27 outs 2b:
    Rk Player, Team RC27
    1 B. Boone, Sea 7.30
    2 A. Soriano, NYY 6.35
    3 M. Young, Tex 6.19
    4 T. Walker, Bos 4.79
    5 O. Hudson, Tor 4.63
    6 M. Ellis, Oak 4.28


    Secondary Average 2b:
    Rk Player, Team SecA
    1 B. Boone, Sea .395
    2 A. Soriano, NYY .328
    3 M. Ellis, Oak .221
    4 T. Walker, Bos .219
    5 M. Young, Tex .218
    6 O. Hudson, Tor .209

    Yankees Team Splits

    OPS vs LHP:

    NAME BA OBP SLG OPS
    Derek Jeter .348 .400 .500 .900
    Jorge Posada .264 .404 .486 .891
    Ruben Sierra (43 Tex) .304 .320 .565 .885
    B. Williams .282 .400 .479 .879
    A. Soriano .275 .356 .488 .843
    Todd Zeile .233 .319 .500 .819
    Raul Mondesi .247 .299 .494 .793
    Hideki Matsui .309 .351 .415 .766
    Nick Johnson .250 .419 .333 .753

    OPS vs RHP:
    NAME BA OBP SLG OPS
    Jason Giambi .291 .450 .630 1.080
    Karim Garcia (24 Cle) .390 .405 .634 1.039
    Nick Johnson .321 .459 .547 1.006
    Jorge Posada .258 .407 .498 .905
    Derek Jeter .314 .389 .453 .842
    A. Soriano .286 .329 .507 .836
    Raul Mondesi .261 .339 .464 .803
    Hideki Matsui .290 .351 .451 .802
    Ruben Sierra (43 Tex) .303 .357 .438 .795
    John Flaherty .262 .311 .429 .740
    Robin Ventura .256 .346 .390 .737
    B. Williams .264 .360 .368 .728

    OPS Away:

    NAME BA OBP SLG OPS
    Nick Johnson .337 .477 .590 1.067
    Jason Giambi .275 .419 .640 1.059
    Ruben Sierra (43 Tex) .375 .444 .550 .994
    B. Williams .309 .395 .522 .917
    Jorge Posada .291 .408 .506 .913
    Derek Jeter .336 .425 .480 .905
    A. Soriano .312 .361 .540 .901
    Karim Garcia (24 Cle) .308 .333 .538 .872
    Raul Mondesi .259 .358 .481 .839
    John Flaherty .314 .368 .457 .826
    Robin Ventura .252 .337 .415 .752
    Hideki Matsui .271 .333 .404 .737

    OPS None On:

    NAME BA OBP SLG OPS
    Ruben Sierra (43 Tex) .341 .383 .614 .997
    Raul Mondesi .333 .402 .585 .987
    Jorge Posada .280 .423 .554 .978
    A. Soriano .302 .351 .552 .903
    Nick Johnson .270 .432 .444 .877
    Jason Giambi .229 .378 .457 .835
    Hideki Matsui .265 .328 .405 .732
    Derek Jeter .262 .330 .393 .723
    Juan Rivera .276 .323 .397 .719
    Karim Garcia (24 Cle) .296 .296 .407 .704
    B. Williams .225 .326 .350 .676
    Robin Ventura .217 .308 .326 .634


    Runners in Scoring Position:
    NAME BA OBP SLG OPS
    Karim Garcia (24 Cle) .375 .375 .750 1.125
    Jason Giambi .259 .425 .574 .999
    Derek Jeter .351 .465 .491 .956
    Jorge Posada .253 .429 .494 .923
    Hideki Matsui .336 .396 .521 .917
    B. Williams .292 .420 .415 .835
    Nick Johnson .243 .396 .432 .828
    A. Soriano .265 .330 .480 .811
    Ruben Sierra (43 Tex) .265 .357 .412 .769
    Juan Rivera .250 .317 .417 .734
    John Flaherty .313 .389 .313 .701
    Robin Ventura .234 .352 .273 .624
    Todd Zeile .152 .208 .348 .555
    Raul Mondesi .151 .252 .274 .526

    Runners in Scoring Position 2 outs:
    NAME BA OBP SLG OPS
    Derek Jeter .385 .543 .577 1.120
    A. Soriano .286 .388 .690 1.078
    Jason Giambi .222 .417 .533 .950
    B. Williams .286 .394 .500 .894
    Jorge Posada .222 .417 .444 .861
    Ruben Sierra (43 Tex) .267 .421 .333 .754
    Juan Rivera .286 .375 .357 .732
    Raul Mondesi .204 .316 .367 .683
    Hideki Matsui .245 .355 .321 .676
    Nick Johnson .182 .280 .364 .644
    Robin Ventura .225 .340 .250 .590

    This list needs to be more comprehensive.

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    unless a guy is a total waste of space (see todd zeile), someone can always find numbers somewhere that will make that guy look good.

    if you took out soriano's numbers for april, where would he rank on all of those lists?

    april DOES count too - but the point is that everyone here knows soriano is better than he has been playing, and there's little that is more frustrating than watching a player perform below his ability, especially such a young player with so much ability.

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    So how many guys having a 40-40 season have been benched?

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    Originally posted by staticm
    unless a guy is a total waste of space (see todd zeile), someone can always find numbers somewhere that will make that guy look good.

    if you took out soriano's numbers for april, where would he rank on all of those lists?

    april DOES count too - but the point is that everyone here knows soriano is better than he has been playing, and there's little that is more frustrating than watching a player perform below his ability, especially such a young player with so much ability.
    instead of counterring my numbers you offer todd zeile as proof that numbers are not trust worthy huh.. interesting...

    i always thought a guy's numbers were tabulated by year, not by year minus april...

    so because some geniuses who have never played the game think soriano is dogging it for whatever reason, (god knows it ain't based on his statistical comparisons w/ other leadoff hitters or other 2bs or even other yanks...) then he needs to play better end of discussion.. no cognizance of the cyclical nature of the sport, the humbling nature.. the fact there ain't a player in the game that maintains the same premium performance every week of the seas.. but the fact is some yanks fans think sori is dogging it so throw how he has performed compared to his peers based on objective indicators not some fan's opinion :rolleyes:

    yeah yanks fans the smartest fans in the game.. perhaps you care to offer someone who can do mr soriano's job better than he has...

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    Originally posted by Ansky39

    i always thought a guy's numbers were tabulated by year, not by year minus april...
    Well since the end of April it appears that opposing pitchers have decided that Soriano chases pitches 10 inches off the plate outside. In 348 plate appearances since then, which accounts for over half a season, he's hitting .251 with an on-base pct. of .296 and a .446 slugging pct. As of the last game he played, he's still chasing pitches 10 inches off the plate. I'm beginning to believe I can get him out. I don't think many want him out of the lineup, and I certainly don't, but somebody please get him out of the leadoff spot.

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    One thing is clear from those statistics .. he shouldn't be batting leadoff -- what a waste!

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    Originally posted by Bub
    Well since the end of April it appears that opposing pitchers have decided that Soriano chases pitches 10 inches off the plate outside. In 348 plate appearances since then, which accounts for over half a season, he's hitting .251 with an on-base pct. of .296 and a .446 slugging pct. As of the last game he played, he's still chasing pitches 10 inches off the plate. I'm beginning to believe I can get him out. I don't think many want him out of the lineup, and I certainly don't, but somebody please get him out of the leadoff spot.
    i just don't follow how you can counter a comparative argument w/ an isolated parcelled statement... i mean perhaps you can illustrate how well the other leadoff hitters have done since april since despite mr soriano's horrendous performance since april he still leads all al leadoff hitters in all but one of the listed categories

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    I believe most people are questioning his production month-to-month. For whatever it's worth I believe his OPS has gone from 1.000+ in April to in the .700s for the next few. Obviously OPS isn't everything, but his production has trended downward of late. Could very easily pick back up.

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    WOW! How impressive! Thanks for sharing those numbers!

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    soriano is in a slump... he'll bounce back... besides, it's never been his offense that scares me.. it's his defense, and that's holding up pretty well..

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    here's an interesting soriano stat this season:

    G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    Home 51 214 34 54 9 3 10 24 12 33 14 2 .252 .305 .463 .767
    Away 50 237 44 74 10 1 14 35 14 53 13 2 .312 .361 .540 .901

    i know hes a righty at yankee stadium, but geez. last year he hit about 30 points but it wasn't that great of a difference.

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    Originally posted by Ansky39


    i just don't follow how you can counter a comparative argument w/ an isolated parcelled statement... i mean perhaps you can illustrate how well the other leadoff hitters have done since april since despite mr soriano's horrendous performance since april he still leads all al leadoff hitters in all but one of the listed categories
    I would hardly call 348 plate appearances a parcelled statement. His total year OBP is in the .330s, which is not only bad for a leadoff batter but is insane when we have another batter who gets on base 50 points higher. The bottom line is that I think this team will score more runs if he's moved down the batting order. I'd even let him try hitting 3rd since he'll probably get better pitches to hit with runners on ahead of him, and he's not usually hitting into DPs because of his speed.

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    Originally posted by Scoriano
    here's an interesting soriano stat this season:

    G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    Home 51 214 34 54 9 3 10 24 12 33 14 2 .252 .305 .463 .767
    Away 50 237 44 74 10 1 14 35 14 53 13 2 .312 .361 .540 .901

    i know hes a righty at yankee stadium, but geez. last year he hit about 30 points but it wasn't that great of a difference.
    Sad part of this is that he has the ability to hit homers into the right field seats at Yankee Stadium, but intead tries pulling those outside pitches.

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    While Soriano's talent is undeniable he has several glaring weaknesses in his game. I don't have to go into great detail, because it should by now be painfully obvious to everyone who really pays attention to the Yankees, but the strikeouts, lack of walks and PATHETIC LACK OF PLATE DISCIPLINE are the things that frustrate us time and time again.

    As for those stats, those are all nice to look at and see his name there, but:
    Where is he in strikeouts? Uh-huh. In walks? Ouch. On-base percentage? Uh-huh.
    Or even fielding? That's probably right in the middle, but not superb.
    You have shown mostly the statistics that he has a firm grip on, none of the ones that show his weaknesses. You aren't showing him as a complete player.

    Another thing. I don't know if anyone has said this, but this year at least he is NOT the best second baseman in the majors, or even in the American League. He might be the most exciting to watch, but he's not the best. Bret Boone is the best second baseman in the AL. He leads Soriano in batting average, OBP, slugging percentage, OPS, extra-base hits, runs generated, times on base, total bases, home runs, RBI, defense overall...your lists trying to prove how far Soriano is above his peers have proven nothing to me but how far Bret Boone is above Soriano.

    That having been said, Soriano is an extremely talented player with lots of ability and potential. He needs to work on his plate discipline, but seeing how much he has fixed his defense in the last year, I think he can do that if he ever actually tries. Soriano certainly does have aspects of his game that need to be fixed, so I don't think anybody's criticism of him should be called pointless, but he is a star already and could become an even bigger one.

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    i never said soriano should be benched - what i said was that it shouldnt be unexpected for people to be getting frustrated with mr.soriano. if he were showing any signs of improvement (see hideki matsui) fans would be very willing to forgive him of his poor numbers since april (perhaps if he was taking more walks, or making less errors).

    my point is - nobody wants to think soriano has topped off in his ability at the ripe old age of 25, so since his numbers are down from last year, and still headed downward - they just want someone to beat into his head to only swing at strikes.

    as for the home/road splits- i personally think he tries harder to hit home runs at home. it may be a subconscious thing, but my opinion is that he does.

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    Ansky39 I agree and disagree with you. If someone has a lousy few games they want them benched which I do not agree with. Let's be realistic here. If a batter makes out 70% of the time thats considered doing very well. No pitcher has an ERA of 0.00 and no batter has an average of 1,000. However regarding Soriano I think alot of people including myself see this ballplayer with AWESOME talent and potential, However when you don't learn from your mistakes that when fans get frustrated. Nobody expects himto be perfect but when he swings at pitches 2-3 feet off the plate and continues to do this it is frustrating. April stats do count, however if in an important game in late Sept and he strikes out 4 times ALL on pitches that are 2-3 feet off the plate can Joe torre go to the umpire and say the strike outs don't count because Sori had a great April? As a fan all I expect is to learn from your mistakes. If you were an opposing pitcher you would have to be crazy to throw anthing close to the plate. Weather your a pitcher or a everyday player if you do not adjust in this league you will not have as much success as your potential dictates.

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    Great post annie.

    I agree completely that Mr. Potato Head will continue to nit pick and whine.

    There is a huge difference between watching Soriano swing away in a game and analyzing his season stats. Subjective observation of a baseball player often leads to dangerous assumptions and false conclusions (which are nonetheless more than fit to be posted on the internet).

    Funny that so many folks have posted rebuttals but nobody has asked about RARP and VORP. One wonders how carefully annie's post was read.
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    I know there has been some negatuvity about Sori, but he's a stud, and we all know it, or should know it..
    The real problem here is he is simply not a leadoff hitter.
    Sori is ultra aggressive. Which is fine, it works for him, slump or not, I would not change his approach.
    But I keep coming back to Garciaparra. Nomar is also aggressive. He does not take walks. He swings at so many bad pitches. Yet his numbers amaze...

    Why? Is it simply Nomar is so much better a hitter than Sori? I do not think so, not one bit..

    You take an ultra agressive hitter and bat him leadoff, and several things happen. One of which is the pitcher's frame of mind changes.
    Think about when Damon led off this past weekend.. How many of us sat there praying that he would not walk. With that lineup, you cannot afford to walk a leadoff hitter. A Pitcher can get too fine and the do precisely what he does not want, either he grooves one and Damon rocks it, or he walks him.. That is the mindset a Damon, or Eckstein, or a Furcal can do to a pitcher. With Sori, they can go for being too fine. Throw it low and away, and if you miss, make sure you miss way low and away. He'll still swing. You do not worry about walking him, and even if you do make a mistake, and he gets into it, it is only 1-0. In some ways, it is better for a leadoff hitter to be on base and distract everything than just hit it out.
    I read something about this one time, when the leadoff hitter hits a HR in an inning, often times that is it, one run inning, When he reaches first base or second basem the % of a bigger inning rises even moreseo than with a leadoff HR. The pitcher worries about a runner, the defense has to adjust, maybe the first baseman plays on the bag opening the right side up etc.. In short, Sori is not the type of guy to work his way on base and start a big first punch. Pitchers know it.. But so then, why does Nomar hit so well. Again, mindset.

    So now you are facing Nomar, and more likely than not one of the top two guys in that terrific Boston order, if not both, are on the bases. Behind Nomar is a fiersome run producing machine. Well, Nomar becomes the key to the inning. Get him out, and you can get away with little or no damage, but if you don't the floodgates can collapse. So pitchers cannot just bounce it up there. What happens if the ball gets away? Runners will advance. What happens if he does not swing, then you are in a hitter's count and Manny, oh Manny is on deck waiting to make you pay..

    Well jeez, change the damned names... Imagine Sori's ultra aggressiveness in the 3 hole while Jeter and Johnson lead off from first and third and no one out. Waiting on deck with his eyes cleared up is a terrifying presence that could mortally wound you before the inning is over.. Behind him waits a soon to be rejuvenated Bernie Williams and fundamentally sound run producer Matsui.
    The pitcher could not just bury the ball in the dirt, because the runners will advance. What if Sori does not bite this time, then a hitter's count. All the while knowing full well what awaits lurking in the on deck circle in the big brawny basher named Giambi. I am telling you, the dynamic of the team would change immensely..

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    Originally posted by Bub
    I would hardly call 348 plate appearances a parcelled statement. His total year OBP is in the .330s, which is not only bad for a leadoff batter but is insane when we have another batter who gets on base 50 points higher. The bottom line is that I think this team will score more runs if he's moved down the batting order. I'd even let him try hitting 3rd since he'll probably get better pitches to hit with runners on ahead of him, and he's not usually hitting into DPs because of his speed.
    actually if you trust the veracity of my number's sori's obp for the year is.343 and he leads all leadoffhitters but ichiro in practically all categories...

    by comparison sakes i think most would consider eckstein or damon prottypical leadoffhitters no?

    they both have obp's for the year of .325...

    i hear you re: what you think, but is there any evidence to suggest the yanks as currently constitued have a better option than sori a guy who leads all leadoff hitters but 1 in practically all offensive categories? jete's number's at leadoff this seas pale.. i know small sample size, but he seems to be every sori critic's choice to bat leadoff... one is there any evidence to suggest jete could be a more productive leadoff hitter and two who would replace jete's vital role batting second...

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    actually, i think Jeter is the prototypical leadoff hitter, not eck or ich

    NJ or Matsui would be my choice for batting in his place.

    third, Giambi

    fourth, Bernie, until sori proved that he could hit lower in the lineup

    5th, Sori

    6th, Matsui/NJ

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    Re: Soriano Numbers:

    Originally posted by Ansky39 AL Leaders in Multi-hit Games (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team Multi-H
    1 Ichiro Suzuki Sea 49
    2 Michael Young Tex 46
    3 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 43
    4 Alfonso Soriano NYY 41
    5t Garret Anderson Ana 39
    5t Raul Ibanez KC 39
    5t Vernon Wells Tor 39
    8 Hideki Matsui NYY 38
    9t Rocco Baldelli TB 36
    9t Hank Blalock Tex 36
    9t Todd Walker Bos 36

    AL Leaders in Extra Bases Taken as Runner (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (.2 Opp/Game)
    Rank Player Team XB Taken
    1 Raul Ibanez KC 0.69 ( 25/36 )
    2 Terrence Long Oak 0.69 ( 18/26 )
    3 Alfonso Soriano NYY 0.66 ( 21/32 )
    4 Carlos Beltran KC 0.63 ( 19/30 )
    5 David Eckstein Ana 0.62 ( 24/39 )
    6 Alex Rodriguez Tex 0.61 ( 17/28 )
    7 Randy Winn Sea 0.61 ( 23/38 )
    8 Deivi Cruz Bal 0.60 ( 18/30 )
    9t Carl Everett CWS 0.59 ( 16/27 )
    9t Vernon Wells Tor 0.59 ( 16/27 )


    AL Leaders in Leadoff OBA (Thru games of July 28, 2003)
    (.9 PA/Game)
    Rank Player Team OBA
    1 Aaron Guiel KC .404 ( 42/104 )
    2 Jerry Hairston Jr. Bal .389 ( 72/185 )
    3 Ichiro Suzuki Sea .380 ( 176/463 )
    4 Carl Everett CWS .362 ( 50/138 )
    5 Shannon Stewart Min .362 ( 140/387 )
    6 Brian Roberts Bal .359 ( 94/262 )
    7 Michael Young Tex .356 ( 85/239 )
    8 Reed Johnson Tor .351 ( 52/148 )
    9 Coco Crisp Cle .346 ( 56/162 )
    10 D'Angelo Jimenez Cin .344 ( 84/244 )
    11 Alfonso Soriano NYY .343 ( 152/443 )
    12 Matt Lawton Cle .337 ( 61/181 )
    13 Eric Byrnes Oak .335 ( 83/248 )
    14 Mark Ellis Oak .331 ( 56/169 )
    15 Desi Relaford KC .326 ( 46/141 )
    16 David Eckstein Ana .325 ( 115/354 )
    17 Johnny Damon Bos .325 ( 135/416 )
    18 Michael Tucker KC .319 ( 68/213 )
    19 Jacque Jones Min .314 ( 95/303 )
    20 Carl Crawford TB .309 ( 85/275 )



    AL Leaders in BA vs RH Pitchers (Thru games of May 13, 2003)
    (.8 PA/Game)
    Rank Player Team BA
    1 Hank Blalock Tex .429 ( 42/98 )
    2 Bret Boone Sea .370 ( 34/92 )
    3 Jacque Jones Min .354 ( 35/99 )
    4 Carl Everett Tex .351 ( 34/97 )
    5 Rocco Baldelli TB .350 ( 41/117 )
    6 Brad Fullmer Ana .346 ( 27/78 )
    7 Frank Catalanotto Tor .345 ( 41/119 )
    8 Alfonso Soriano NYY .341 ( 46/135 )
    9 Nick Johnson NYY .340 ( 32/94 )
    10 Michael Young Tex .340 ( 34/100 )

    AL Leaders in Hits (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team H
    1 Ichiro Suzuki Sea 149
    2 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 139
    3 Michael Young Tex 137
    4 Vernon Wells Tor 136
    5 Garret Anderson Ana 131
    6 Alfonso Soriano NYY 128
    7 Manny Ramirez Bos 125
    8t Rocco Baldelli TB 124
    8t Hideki Matsui NYY 124
    8t Magglio Ordonez CWS 124
    11 Bret Boone Sea 122

    AL Leaders in Times On Base (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team TOB
    1t Carlos Delgado Tor 193
    1t Manny Ramirez Bos 193
    3 Jason Giambi NYY 189
    4 Ichiro Suzuki Sea 177
    5t Milton Bradley Cle 176
    5t Alex Rodriguez Tex 176
    7 Frank Thomas CWS 173
    8 Nomar Garciaparra Bos 172
    9 Bret Boone Sea 169
    10 Vernon Wells Tor 168
    11t Erubiel Durazo Oak 166
    11t Magglio Ordonez CWS 166
    13 Alfonso Soriano NYY 163
    14 Hideki Matsui NYY 161
    15t Aubrey Huff TB 160
    15t Michael Young Tex 160
    17 Jorge Posada NYY 157
    18 Johnny Damon Bos 156
    19 Tim Salmon Ana 155
    20t Garret Anderson Ana 153
    20t Jeff Conine Bal 153

    AL Leaders in Extra Base Hits (Thru games of July 28, 2003)

    Rank Player Team XBH
    1 Vernon Wells Tor 63
    2 Garret Anderson Ana 62
    3t Carlos Delgado Tor 58
    3t Nomar Garciaparra Bos 58
    5t Bret Boone Sea 55
    5t Aubrey Huff TB 55
    7t Magglio Ordonez CWS 52
    7t Manny Ramirez Bos 52
    9 Frank Thomas CWS 50
    10t Bill Mueller Bos 49
    10t Alex Rodriguez Tex 49
    12 Dmitri Young Det 48
    13 Alfonso Soriano NYY 47
    14 Jeff Conine Bal 46
    15t Jay Gibbons Bal 43
    15t Kevin Millar Bos 43
    15t Miguel Tejada Oak 43
    18t Eric Chavez Oak 42
    18t Johnny Damon Bos 42
    18t Juan Gonzalez Tex 42
    18t Raul Mondesi NYY 42
    18t Jason Varitek Bos
    A lot of these are very telling stats, and some of them are almost useless. Soriano leads the league in ABs, as a result he should be among the lead in many numerical catergories, but that doesn't mean he's the best. He may have the most extra base hits(he's actually 14th), but that doesn't mean he's the best at getting them. His slugging % is only .503. He is among the leaders in multihit games partly because of the fact that he has more chances in every game. If you have someone who gets 5 ABs a game and someone with 4, the person with 5 will get a lot more multi hit games with the same BA. You also pointed his 11th in leadoff OBA. That's pretty pathetic, seeing as there are 14 teams in the league. He's among the worst at getting on base of the leadoff hitters. Your BA against RHP is two months old and contain data from the first month of the season, worthless in the big picture..

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    Originally posted by aeromac76
    I know there has been some negatuvity about Sori, but he's a stud, and we all know it, or should know it..
    The real problem here is he is simply not a leadoff hitter.
    Sori is ultra aggressive. Which is fine, it works for him, slump or not, I would not change his approach.
    But I keep coming back to Garciaparra. Nomar is also aggressive. He does not take walks. He swings at so many bad pitches. Yet his numbers amaze...

    Why? Is it simply Nomar is so much better a hitter than Sori? I do not think so, not one bit..

    You take an ultra agressive hitter and bat him leadoff, and several things happen. One of which is the pitcher's frame of mind changes.
    Think about when Damon led off this past weekend.. How many of us sat there praying that he would not walk. With that lineup, you cannot afford to walk a leadoff hitter. A Pitcher can get too fine and the do precisely what he does not want, either he grooves one and Damon rocks it, or he walks him.. That is the mindset a Damon, or Eckstein, or a Furcal can do to a pitcher. With Sori, they can go for being too fine. Throw it low and away, and if you miss, make sure you miss way low and away. He'll still swing. You do not worry about walking him, and even if you do make a mistake, and he gets into it, it is only 1-0. In some ways, it is better for a leadoff hitter to be on base and distract everything than just hit it out.
    I read something about this one time, when the leadoff hitter hits a HR in an inning, often times that is it, one run inning, When he reaches first base or second basem the % of a bigger inning rises even moreseo than with a leadoff HR. The pitcher worries about a runner, the defense has to adjust, maybe the first baseman plays on the bag opening the right side up etc.. In short, Sori is not the type of guy to work his way on base and start a big first punch. Pitchers know it.. But so then, why does Nomar hit so well. Again, mindset.

    So now you are facing Nomar, and more likely than not one of the top two guys in that terrific Boston order, if not both, are on the bases. Behind Nomar is a fiersome run producing machine. Well, Nomar becomes the key to the inning. Get him out, and you can get away with little or no damage, but if you don't the floodgates can collapse. So pitchers cannot just bounce it up there. What happens if the ball gets away? Runners will advance. What happens if he does not swing, then you are in a hitter's count and Manny, oh Manny is on deck waiting to make you pay..

    Well jeez, change the damned names... Imagine Sori's ultra aggressiveness in the 3 hole while Jeter and Johnson lead off from first and third and no one out. Waiting on deck with his eyes cleared up is a terrifying presence that could mortally wound you before the inning is over.. Behind him waits a soon to be rejuvenated Bernie Williams and fundamentally sound run producer Matsui.
    The pitcher could not just bury the ball in the dirt, because the runners will advance. What if Sori does not bite this time, then a hitter's count. All the while knowing full well what awaits lurking in the on deck circle in the big brawny basher named Giambi. I am telling you, the dynamic of the team would change immensely..
    Great post Aero, I think you nailed it on the head.

    Now please nail it into Joe's. Use real nails, its ok. There's not much in there to damage.....

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    Originally posted by staticm
    i never said soriano should be benched - what i said was that it shouldnt be unexpected for people to be getting frustrated with mr.soriano. if he were showing any signs of improvement (see hideki matsui) fans would be very willing to forgive him of his poor numbers since april (perhaps if he was taking more walks, or making less errors).

    my point is - nobody wants to think soriano has topped off in his ability at the ripe old age of 25, so since his numbers are down from last year, and still headed downward - they just want someone to beat into his head to only swing at strikes.

    as for the home/road splits- i personally think he tries harder to hit home runs at home. it may be a subconscious thing, but my opinion is that he does.
    As for the home/road thing, I don't think that that is the reason. The reason is just that Yankee Stadium sucks for right handed power hitters and that is exactly what Soriano (and Mondesi btw) is. Matsui has had one month with an OPS above .700, Soriano has at least been above .700 i think evey month. And Matsui is supposed to be producing at a corner outfield position, I'm more tired of him than I am of Soriano. I guess that pretty near .300 BA and all those RBI have Yankee fans hypnotized.

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    Originally posted by aeromac76
    I know there has been some negatuvity about Sori, but he's a stud, and we all know it, or should know it..
    The real problem here is he is simply not a leadoff hitter.
    Sori is ultra aggressive. Which is fine, it works for him, slump or not, I would not change his approach.
    But I keep coming back to Garciaparra. Nomar is also aggressive. He does not take walks. He swings at so many bad pitches. Yet his numbers amaze...

    Why? Is it simply Nomar is so much better a hitter than Sori? I do not think so, not one bit..

    You take an ultra agressive hitter and bat him leadoff, and several things happen. One of which is the pitcher's frame of mind changes.
    Think about when Damon led off this past weekend.. How many of us sat there praying that he would not walk. With that lineup, you cannot afford to walk a leadoff hitter. A Pitcher can get too fine and the do precisely what he does not want, either he grooves one and Damon rocks it, or he walks him.. That is the mindset a Damon, or Eckstein, or a Furcal can do to a pitcher. With Sori, they can go for being too fine. Throw it low and away, and if you miss, make sure you miss way low and away. He'll still swing. You do not worry about walking him, and even if you do make a mistake, and he gets into it, it is only 1-0. In some ways, it is better for a leadoff hitter to be on base and distract everything than just hit it out.
    I read something about this one time, when the leadoff hitter hits a HR in an inning, often times that is it, one run inning, When he reaches first base or second basem the % of a bigger inning rises even moreseo than with a leadoff HR. The pitcher worries about a runner, the defense has to adjust, maybe the first baseman plays on the bag opening the right side up etc.. In short, Sori is not the type of guy to work his way on base and start a big first punch. Pitchers know it.. But so then, why does Nomar hit so well. Again, mindset.

    So now you are facing Nomar, and more likely than not one of the top two guys in that terrific Boston order, if not both, are on the bases. Behind Nomar is a fiersome run producing machine. Well, Nomar becomes the key to the inning. Get him out, and you can get away with little or no damage, but if you don't the floodgates can collapse. So pitchers cannot just bounce it up there. What happens if the ball gets away? Runners will advance. What happens if he does not swing, then you are in a hitter's count and Manny, oh Manny is on deck waiting to make you pay..

    Well jeez, change the damned names... Imagine Sori's ultra aggressiveness in the 3 hole while Jeter and Johnson lead off from first and third and no one out. Waiting on deck with his eyes cleared up is a terrifying presence that could mortally wound you before the inning is over.. Behind him waits a soon to be rejuvenated Bernie Williams and fundamentally sound run producer Matsui.
    The pitcher could not just bury the ball in the dirt, because the runners will advance. What if Sori does not bite this time, then a hitter's count. All the while knowing full well what awaits lurking in the on deck circle in the big brawny basher named Giambi. I am telling you, the dynamic of the team would change immensely..
    ditto.

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