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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by Messerwhitescooter View Post
    If CC had been CC this year, the Yankees (with our bullpen including MO) could have competed with either of these teams, despite our anemic offense. You need three good starters, and we would have had three if CC had been vintage CC. Let's pray he gets himself right over the winter.
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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

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    Are you kidding me? This thing is a crapshoot.
    Sure but if I'm a Tiger fan I like my chances with ERA leader Sanchez going in G5, likely Cy-young winner Scherzer going in G6 and Verlander with his 23 IP, 1 R post season going on in a winner take all G7.

    Sure the Sox are capable of matching them or even exploding at the plate but I' rater be in Detroit's shoes right now than Bostons.
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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

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    Agreed.
    gosh. I was expecting to get slammed for that post. thanks.
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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by Messerwhitescooter View Post
    If CC had been CC this year, the Yankees (with our bullpen including MO) could have competed with either of these teams, despite our anemic offense. You need three good starters, and we would have had three if CC had been vintage CC. Let's pray he gets himself right over the winter.
    disagree vehemently, you are insinuating that CC's performance was anomalous this year when some of us have been vocal about his imminent decline but our warnings were not heeded. And even if CC somehow replicated his performance from last year ourpitching staff and the offense that we were actually able to field is stricctly inferior to either of these ball clubs right now.

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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    What a terrible send by Brookens there (although it did look like he tried to stop him at the last second, but Miggy kept running). Cabrera cant run healthy...forget it with a bad groin. He is Jose Molina slow. Predictably out by about 40 feet at home.

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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    Detroit in big trouble here....Sanchez doesnt have it at all. This could get ugly soon.

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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    So glad this sh*thead isn't working the Yankees beat anymore.


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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    These announcers sound like they have concussions........

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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    McCarver did admit he didn't know how many he had.
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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    Are you kidding me? Mike Napoli homered again? WTF.

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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by RhodyYanksFan View Post
    Are you kidding me? Mike Napoli homered again? WTF.
    And the Tigers offense doing nothing again...WTF. Outside of two big innings, they have done nothing in this series thus far.

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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

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    gosh. I was expecting to get slammed for that post. thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by yanksftw View Post
    disagree vehemently, you are insinuating that CC's performance was anomalous this year when some of us have been vocal about his imminent decline but our warnings were not heeded. And even if CC somehow replicated his performance from last year ourpitching staff and the offense that we were actually able to field is stricctly inferior to either of these ball clubs right now.

    ...that's more like it....
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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    one more run was nice but needed more there
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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    Miggy hits into a double play with 1st/2nd no outs. Good Lord
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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    Should have done a Victorino and let that hit you Prince.
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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    The positive for the Tigers is that if they do happen to tie it, VMart is still in.
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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    Uehara gets the save. REd Sox just need one more win to go to the wS
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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by Messerwhitescooter View Post
    If CC had been CC this year, the Yankees (with our bullpen including MO) could have competed with either of these teams, despite our anemic offense. You need three good starters, and we would have had three if CC had been vintage CC. Let's pray he gets himself right over the winter.
    Dude. What are you smoking? Seriously. Anemic offense?

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    So you take CC, and have him pitch well, and we are suddenly going to compete in a 7 game series with either of these guys?
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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    I don't mean to sound harsh but the 2013 Yankees would have needed more than C.C. at the top of his game to compete. They would have needed Victor Conte in his prime to pull off that. It wasn't in the cards. Serenity now and all that stuff...

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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    Quote Originally Posted by goin for 27 View Post
    Dude. What are you smoking? Seriously. Anemic offense?

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    So you take CC, and have him pitch well, and we are suddenly going to compete in a 7 game series with either of these guys?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stick Michael View Post
    I don't mean to sound harsh but the 2013 Yankees would have needed more than C.C. at the top of his game to compete. They would have needed Victor Conte in his prime to pull off that. It wasn't in the cards. Serenity now and all that stuff...
    But it doesn't work that way in the playoffs. Once you're in, run differentials over 162 game seasons mean squat. Right now the Tigers have a +2 run differential in the ALCS. How's that working out?

    Weird things happen in small samples sizes like 5 game or 7 game series. Think about when Alfonso Soriano had a 5 game outburst earlier this year where he had 22 hits, 5 HR and 18 RBI. An outburst even close to that from a player almost certainly wins a 5 game set. It's not likely, but weird things happen in small samples.

    Two of the games in this ALCS have been 1-0 victories.

    The Sox got no-hit by Sanchez, Albequerque, Veras and Smyly for 8 innings.

    If Cabrera can range his ginormous body to the left in the 9th inning of game 2, Gomes routine grounder becomes a 5-3 putout and that game probably goes into extras.

    Stephen Drew has 1 total base in the ALCS.

    David Ortiz has 1 hit, but it came in a perfect situation.

    The Sox are batting .186 in this series, and winning in spite of Buccholz and Peavey being knocked around pretty darn good.

    Would the Yankees have been favorites with a vintage CC season? No. Can you rule out that they'd have been competitive at all? I don't think you can, or understand why you'd even want to try.

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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    this is a case of pitching being good rather than the hitting being bad.
    always reasonable

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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    False1 is correct. The best team doesn't always win. And the way games are spaced out in the playoffs is completely different than in the regular season. You need 5 starters all year long, but only 4 in the playoffs, and sometimes only 3. That changes the complexion of things dramatically. The playoffs are a true second season and any team can win a short series.

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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    Boston certainly is in excellent position to win the series. Though Detroit with Scherzer and Verlander going aren't totally out of it yet.

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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

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    But it doesn't work that way in the playoffs. Once you're
    in, run differentials over 162 game seasons mean squat. Right now the Tigers
    have a +2 run differential in the ALCS. How's that working out?
    That's what happens when you lose series, and obviously it is a SSS

    Weird things happen in small samples sizes like 5 game or 7 game series. Think
    about when Alfonso Soriano had a 5 game outburst earlier this year where he had
    22 hits, 5 HR and 18 RBI. An outburst even close to that from a player almost
    certainly wins a 5 game set. It's not likely, but weird things happen in small
    samples.
    If this is your premise, then just about everyone could compete.

    So you are saying "If CC had been CC" this year. What do you mean? Last year's CC or CC from prior, when he was great?

    Who are your other two pitchers? Andy? I will give you that, I think he could have stepped up.

    Who is your third arm? Kuroda? Or.....earlier in the year Kuroda? I don't imagine you want the Kuroda from August on....that Kuroda could not make a postseason roster.

    See what I mean?
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    Re: ALCS: Tigers vs Red Sox

    If only the Tigers could do to the Sox in the playoffs what they do to the Yanks.

    I mean, really now.

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