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    Which Mariano Rivera record will stand the test of time...?

    Which Mariano Rivera record will stand the test of time...?

    I was really pissed at Leyland in the Allstar game for using him in the 8th inning. If Mo had Allstar save #5 I would think it would of been impossible to break...

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    Re: Which Mariano Rivera record will stand the test of time...?

    4 AS saves is a record that could be broken and though unlikely 652 career saves could be passed at some point in the future. But I think Mo's record of 42 post season saves will stand forever. How many pitchers get to pitch in 42 post season games let alone have a save situation in that many games.

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    Postseason. Teams making the playoffs 17 out of 19 years is a rarity to begin with, and baseball's economic restructuring will make it even tougher. OTOH, more teams in the playoffs (and possibly more rounds in the future) might change that.

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    42 postseason saves. Even if in the future somebody were to get a chance to pitch in that many save situations, it is highly unlikely they would save every opportunity.

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    Re: Which Mariano Rivera record will stand the test of time...?

    Quote Originally Posted by NYYFAN View Post
    Which Mariano Rivera record will stand the test of time...?

    I was really pissed at Leyland in the Allstar game for using him in the 8th inning. If Mo had Allstar save #5 I would think it would of been impossible to break...

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    I watched the game and everybody knew he was pitching the 8th. My memory is gone but he had to protect the lead or there would no save. It's like a tied game and using Mo. You don't want to save your best pitcher. I do agree with you and would have used Mo in the 9th but Leyland is a great manager and Detroit is a very good team. I just want BoSox to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ymike673 View Post
    4 AS saves is a record that could be broken and though unlikely 652 career saves could be passed at some point in the future. But I think Mo's record of 42 post season saves will stand forever. How many pitchers get to pitch in 42 post season games let alone have a save situation in that many games.
    I tend to agree. If he had gotten that 5th all-star save I would of gone with that one. To get 6 all star saves seems impossible. Only one game a year. You have to make the team, you have to get in a save situation and you have to do it 6 times. And you have to be the GUY ie best closer during all those years.

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    Re: Which Mariano Rivera record will stand the test of time...?

    For all the records Rivera holds, why only pick those three?

    POSTSEASON:
    Lowest career ERA (min 70 IP): 0.70
    Most consecutive scoreless innings: 33.3
    Most consecutive save opportunities converted: 23
    Most career games pitched: 96
    Lowest career ERA in Division Series history (minimum 20 innings pitched): 0.32
    Most career saves in Division Series: 18
    Most career saves in LCS: 13
    Most career saves in WS: 11

    REGULAR SEASON:
    Most career games finished: 952
    Highest career adjusted ERA+ (minimum 1,000 innings pitched): 205 (Pedro Martinez second, with 154)
    Most career games pitched with single team: 1115
    Most career games pitched in American League history: 1115
    Most career games pitched by right-handed pitcher: 1115
    Most consecutive seasons with at least one save: 18
    Most seasons with at least 25 saves: 16
    Most consecutive seasons with at least 30 saves: 9
    Most seasons with 20-plus saves and sub-2.00 ERA: 11
    Most career saves for a single winning pitcher: 75 (for Andy Pettitte)


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    I have a fear Kimbrel will get close to 652 career saves, I mean he's 25 yrs old now and already has 139 saves, unless he loses a year to Tommy John he is pretty much on pace to get very close to Mo if he plays for a while. Mo wasn't even a full time closer until age 27

    The postseason saves record will not be touched, not only do you have to be on a dynasty team you also have to be extremely good at closing so that one will not get broken.
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    Re: Which Mariano Rivera record will stand the test of time...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Big_E View Post
    For all the records Rivera holds, why only pick those three?

    POSTSEASON:
    Lowest career ERA (min 70 IP): 0.70
    Most consecutive scoreless innings: 33.3
    Most consecutive save opportunities converted: 23
    Most career games pitched: 96
    Lowest career ERA in Division Series history (minimum 20 innings pitched): 0.32
    Most career saves in Division Series: 18
    Most career saves in LCS: 13
    Most career saves in WS: 11

    REGULAR SEASON:
    Most career games finished: 952
    Highest career adjusted ERA+ (minimum 1,000 innings pitched): 205 (Pedro Martinez second, with 154)
    Most career games pitched with single team: 1115
    Most career games pitched in American League history: 1115
    Most career games pitched by right-handed pitcher: 1115
    Most consecutive seasons with at least one save: 18
    Most seasons with at least 25 saves: 16
    Most consecutive seasons with at least 30 saves: 9
    Most seasons with 20-plus saves and sub-2.00 ERA: 11
    Most career saves for a single winning pitcher: 75 (for Andy Pettitte)


    ...and others...
    Because it was about saves in 3 main categories. Did you want the broken bat record too? Plus its my poll, make your own...

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    Re: Which Mariano Rivera record will stand the test of time...?

    Quote Originally Posted by BronxYanks45 View Post
    I have a fear Kimbrel will get close to 652 career saves, I mean he's 25 yrs old now and already has 139 saves, unless he loses a year to Tommy John he is pretty much on pace to get very close to Mo if he plays for a while. Mo wasn't even a full time closer until age 27

    The postseason saves record will not be touched, not only do you have to be on a dynasty team you also have to be extremely good at closing so that one will not get broken.
    He's a guy I've been watching. If he holds up its possible. Plus he's on a decent team. When he gets to 600, I may have to step in...lol

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    Re: Which Mariano Rivera record will stand the test of time...?

    Quote Originally Posted by NYYFAN View Post
    I tend to agree. If he had gotten that 5th all-star save I would of gone with that one. To get 6 all star saves seems impossible. Only one game a year. You have to make the team, you have to get in a save situation and you have to do it 6 times. And you have to be the GUY ie best closer during all those years.
    It's not as impossible as you think. There have been closers who were dominate for 5 or 6 seasons. The top closer usually makes the AS team. If the AL or NL won 5 or 6 AL games in a row which has happened and they were close games the same guy could get the save in 5 of them.
    But 42 post season saves? Just do not see that ever happening.

    By the way I was at the AS game and was upset when Mo did not pitch the ninth. Leyand's reason would have made sense if the AL was up by one run but with a three run lead there was time to bring Mo in if there was trouble in the 8th inning.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if they all last, at least for quite some time, but I think the most "unbreakable" is clearly the postseason record.
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    Re: Which Mariano Rivera record will stand the test of time...?

    Quote Originally Posted by NYYFAN View Post
    He's a guy I've been watching. If he holds up its possible. Plus he's on a decent team. When he gets to 600, I may have to step in...lol

    He is on a decent team now but who knows where he will be ten years from now.
    By the way one record that Mo will hold forever will be 652 saves for ONE team. Can't see any pitcher in the future playing that many years with a single team. Even Hoffman did not get all of his saves on San Diego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ymike673 View Post
    It's not as impossible as you think. There have been closers who were dominate for 5 or 6 seasons. The top closer usually makes the AS team. If the AL or NL won 5 or 6 AL games in a row which has happened and they were close games the same guy could get the save in 5 of them.
    But 42 post season saves? Just do not see that ever happening.

    By the way I was at the AS game and was upset when Mo did not pitch the ninth. Leyand's reason would have made sense if the AL was up by one run but with a three run lead there was time to bring Mo in if there was trouble in the 8th inning.
    Those 5-6 team wins also must be save situations. Many are blow out wins and not save situations.

    It was a 3-0 lead in the 8th, if the lead got in jeopardy, they still could of brought Mo in to end it.

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    Re: Which Mariano Rivera record will stand the test of time...?

    Quote Originally Posted by NYYFAN View Post
    Those 5-6 team wins also must be save situations. Many are blow out wins and not save situations.

    It was a 3-0 lead in the 8th, if the lead got in jeopardy, they still could of brought Mo in to end it.

    That's true but I am just saying that it would be possible for a pitcher to get 5 AS saves. A lot more likely than a pitcher getting 42 Post Season saves.

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    Re: Which Mariano Rivera record will stand the test of time...?

    Quote Originally Posted by BronxYanks45 View Post
    I have a fear Kimbrel will get close to 652 career saves, I mean he's 25 yrs old now and already has 139 saves, unless he loses a year to Tommy John he is pretty much on pace to get very close to Mo if he plays for a while. Mo wasn't even a full time closer until age 27
    True, he's the one guy who could have a chance. But look at Rivera's dominance and longevity - 15 seasons with 60+ appearances (ALL TIME Record). It is tough to be that good, that long.

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    Re: Which Mariano Rivera record will stand the test of time...?

    Quote Originally Posted by NYYFAN View Post
    He's a guy I've been watching. If he holds up its possible. Plus he's on a decent team. When he gets to 600, I may have to step in...lol
    That's a big if. How many closers are absolutely dominant for 4-5 years only to fall apart or fade? John Rocker, Jon Broxton (to an extent), Eric Gagne, Octavio Dotel, Byung-Hyun Kim, and so on and so on. A large part of what made Mo special is how long he did it for and how healthy he stayed for the most part. If Mo had been Mo from 1996-2000 or so, he'd definitely be appreciated but he wouldn't be what he is. I think we have a ways to go before we worry about him. He hasn't even hit 200 yet.
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    Re: Which Mariano Rivera record will stand the test of time...?

    Postseason saves and postseason ERA should stick around the longest.

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    Postseason saves for sure.

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    Just look at how many post-season saves some other closers ( ex.Trevor Hoffman, Lee Smith ) have.
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    Postseason saves for sure.
    No doubt.

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