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    Or just trying to drive the price down.

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    Or just trying to drive the price down.

    Possible, but doubtful as it drives it down for the Yankees, too.
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    Possible, but doubtful as it drives it down for the Yankees, too.
    It does but the Dodgers know the Yankees are always lurking.

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    Excellent.

    I really do believe that the Cano thing is a test of where the Yanks are going-if he can be had at a "reasonable price/reasonable # of years".

    If he can be had at above, and we don't sign him, to me that = rebuild. Same scenario and we do sign him, then = retool.
    I still don't get what the relationship is between any Cano contract and rebuilding.
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    Re: 10 years/305M

    It's all posturing. He's trying to create a buzz and gauge interest from other clubs. In the end, expect Robbie to re-sign for the deal the Yankees originally offered: 6 years/$144 million.
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    Re: 10 years/305M

    Cano is looking for the last contract of his career, CAA is looking to make a splash with a big contract in an effort to lure other players, and the Yankees need Cano badly but not 10/$305 badly.

    I'm telling you they will end up with a Teixiera style contract, 8 years $190 million
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    Re: 10 years/305M

    I wonder if Cano would agree to a 10 year deal with the last 4 years being options based on health (PAs).

    Like, if Cano gets 400 or more PAs, it's a player option, anything below would be a team option.
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    If the guy is lackadaisical in his walk year, just imagine how he'll be when he has the security of a LTC. Other guys in his situation would be busting a nut hustling down to first, if for no other reason than to dispel the perception of laziness. Wouldnt give him more than 5 years.

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    If the guy is lackadaisical in his walk year, just imagine how he'll be when he has the security of a LTC. Other guys in his situation would be busting a nut hustling down to first, if for no other reason than to dispel the perception of laziness. Wouldnt give him more than 5 years.
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    Re: 10 years/305M

    Quote Originally Posted by effdamets View Post
    I wonder if Cano would agree to a 10 year deal with the last 4 years being options based on health (PAs).

    Like, if Cano gets 400 or more PAs, it's a player option, anything below would be a team option.
    I would like to see that . . but with total years no more than 7-8 years. He could still get PAs but be a 2.20 hitter by then.

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    Re: 10 years/305M

    Quote Originally Posted by effdamets View Post
    I wonder if Cano would agree to a 10 year deal with the last 4 years being options based on health (PAs).

    Like, if Cano gets 400 or more PAs, it's a player option, anything below would be a team option.
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    Re: 10 years/305M

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimmers' Helmet View Post
    It's all posturing. He's trying to create a buzz and gauge interest from other clubs. In the end, expect Robbie to re-sign for the deal the Yankees originally offered: 6 years/$144 million.
    I wouldn't be so sure about that. Watch him get 220/9 from San Diego or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zimmers' Helmet View Post
    It's all posturing. He's trying to create a buzz and gauge interest from other clubs. In the end, expect Robbie to re-sign for the deal the Yankees originally offered: 6 years/$144 million.
    He can ask for 20 years and $500 million but, that doesn't mean a team will offer him anything close to his asking price. However, his contract will absolutely topple 6 years/$144 million.

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    Honestly..I think Jeter's long term contract is the only one where he actually played up to it's standard (The jury is still out if Texieria was worth all that money)
    I can think of some recent ones where they pretty much didn't live up to their contract.

    Jason Giambi
    Ken Griffey Jr
    Todd Helton
    Ryan Braun !! ( Ask Melky how good he was once he got off the juice)
    Mike Hampton
    Joe Mauer (doesn't look good except for his bank account)
    Johan Santana
    Andre Either
    Josh Hamilton (up till now)
    Barry Zito
    Albert Puljos (up till now)
    AROD!!! YAY!
    Hunter Pence!! For your future consideration on this topic

    It's more like the kiss of death for a player to get one of these, of course there are the exception to the rule but like I said few and far between as of late.

    But hey Good Luck if he can get it because he is "Cano dontcha know!"

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    Re: 10 years/305M

    Robbie shooting for the moon. There is no sane GM out there that will cut that check. I wonder what Cano's realistic number is? He's asking for about 2.5 x more than what Pedroia just signed for and I believe Pedrioa is the highest paid 2nd. baseman. I'm sure Yanks would make Cano highest paid 2nd baseman but they won't make the mistake of crippling the team again especially with all the needs this team will have this offseason.
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    Re: 10 years/305M

    Quote Originally Posted by azzurribaggio View Post
    . . .

    It's more like the kiss of death for a player to get one of these, of course there are the exception to the rule but like I said few and far between as of late.

    But hey Good Luck if he can get it because he is "Cano dontcha know!"
    Kiss of death for the team, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by YankS1302 View Post
    Robbie shooting for the moon. There is no sane GM out there that will cut that check. I wonder what Cano's realistic number is? He's asking for about 2.5 x more than what Pedroia just signed for and I believe Pedrioa is the highest paid 2nd. baseman. I'm sure Yanks would make Cano highest paid 2nd baseman but they won't make the mistake of crippling the team again especially with all the needs this team will have this offseason.
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    Kiss of death for the team, too.



    It's the owners we worry about.
    Yah Big Stein is writing him a check as we speak where ever he is

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    This is very very simple- it really is. Robbie wants the security of a long term deal- why else would he not say- "you know what, I will go with 5 years and $150 million and then I will be able to get even more than 5x30 on my next deal?"

    If that is what he wants- 10 years and 305 million, I say the Yankees give him every penny of that- BUT- in return, here are our expectations from Robbie, since he wants to the the 2nd highest paid guy in baseball, here is what we will need at a bare minimum:

    1) He needs to finish in the top 5 of MVP voting every year, if he doesn't, we deduct $5 million
    2) Should he finish out of the top 10 in MVP voting, we deduct another $5 million
    3) If he finishes as league MVP- we add $5 million
    4) If he does not get a GG we deduct 2 million
    5) If he does not get a SS we deduct 2 million
    6) If he does not get chosen to the All Star Game we deduct 1 million
    7) If he does not have 400 PA in any year we deduct 1 million
    8) If he does not have 100 RBI- we deduct 1 million
    9) If he does not have 25 home runs we deduct 1 million
    10) If his BA is <.280 we deduct 1 million
    11) If the NYY win AL, add 2 million
    12) If the NYY win WS, add another 2 million

    Under this scenario- he could finish out of the Top 10 in MVP voting, have less than 400 PA, 100 RBI and 25 HR, not make the All Star Team, hit <.280, not get a GG or SS, and still clear 11 million per year. If he hits all incentives- certainly not impossible- he makes $39 million per

    If he/Jay Z would not agree to the bare minimum standards that would be expected for a guy to earn $30 million per year, I would have them both escorted out of the building

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    Re: 10 years/305M

    Quote Originally Posted by azzurribaggio View Post
    Honestly..I think Jeter's long term contract is the only one where he actually played up to it's standard (The jury is still out if Texieria was worth all that money)
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    Quote Originally Posted by snapple View Post
    Cano is not lazy. This post is lazy and you should feel bad for posting it.

    Then why does he dog it so much?

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    Re: 10 years/305M

    Quote Originally Posted by Vin View Post
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    I kind of wished he was saying goodbye in 2004-05, and 2007 - he was pretty horrid during those years. I'd hardly say he fully lived up to his contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BronxYanks45 View Post
    Cano is looking for the last contract of his career, CAA is looking to make a splash with a big contract in an effort to lure other players, and the Yankees need Cano badly but not 10/$305 badly.

    I'm telling you they will end up with a Teixiera style contract, 8 years $190 million
    You're probably right. I don't know that I agree with it, but I don't think the Yankees let him go elsewhere and I think someone else will go high enough to make the Yankees go that high.

    I'd hate to see Cano go, but its hard to see an outcome where the Yankees truly get their money's worth.

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    Re: 10 years/305M

    Quote Originally Posted by azzurribaggio View Post
    Honestly..I think Jeter's long term contract is the only one where he actually played up to it's standard (The jury is still out if Texieria was worth all that money)
    I can think of some recent ones where they pretty much didn't live up to their contract.

    Jason Giambi
    Ken Griffey Jr
    Todd Helton
    Ryan Braun !! ( Ask Melky how good he was once he got off the juice)
    Mike Hampton
    Joe Mauer (doesn't look good except for his bank account)
    Johan Santana
    Andre Either
    Josh Hamilton (up till now)
    Barry Zito
    Albert Puljos (up till now)
    AROD!!! YAY!
    Hunter Pence!! For your future consideration on this topic

    It's more like the kiss of death for a player to get one of these, of course there are the exception to the rule but like I said few and far between as of late.

    But hey Good Luck if he can get it because he is "Cano dontcha know!"
    Giambi definitely lived up to his Yankees contract.

    A-Rod's first long term contract too.

    Joe Mauer had a 143 OPS+ this year and 140 OPS+ last season. Don't know what's your meaning of "doesn't look good".

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    Re: 10 years/305M

    Quote Originally Posted by kan_t View Post
    Giambi definitely lived up to his Yankees contract.
    Not by any standard.

    When he came to the Yankees he was coming off a 2nd place MVP finish, and a year before he was the ALMVP. (Had one Top 5 MVP finish as a NYY)

    He was coming off six straight years where he batted .290 or better, and three straight where he hit .315 or better. (One year hitting .272 or better as a NYY - his first.)

    ...Four straight years of 100+ RBI (Only three of seven seasons with the Yankees did he have 100+ RBI)

    ...Three straight seasons of .422+ OBP (two out of seven seasons with .422 or better OBP, three worse than .375).

    ...Back-to-back .600+ SLG. (No .600 SLG with the Yankees)

    ...Three straight years 100+ runs scored (one of seven years with 100+ with the Yankees)

    For you "advanced" stats guys: he came off of back-to-back seasons of 7.8 and 9.1 WAR; he had one season (his first) with a WAR over 5.0 with the Yankees, and had three seasons (of seven) below 2.0 (considered bench player status).

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