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04-21-13 02:41 PM #1
Nova is tiresome. Call up Nuno or Wang.
Nuno, 3 starts @ AAA: 17.2 innings, 10 H, 20 K, 1 BB. Lefty.
Nova's ERA is over 7 since the all star break last year, with a WHIP well over 1.6 and a OPS against well over .900. Even in his "good" starts, he's teetering on the precipice of disaster. Nuno can't be worse. Even Wang would be a better choice right now (5.1 shutout innings in his first AAA start, 0 BB, 3 K).
It's time to stop worrying about the long term implications this might have on Nova's ego.
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04-21-13 02:44 PM #2
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04-21-13 02:46 PM #3
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04-21-13 02:51 PM #4
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04-21-13 02:52 PM #5
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Re: Nova is tiresome. Call up Nuno or Wang.
Agree completely. Nova has shown nothing now for almost a full year, Phelps is in the wrong role, Warren is wasting away in the pen never getting into a game, and there are guys in AAA who are performing well. A change has to be made.
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04-21-13 02:53 PM #6
Re: Nova is tiresome. Call up Nuno or Wang.
The Yankees seem to have an annoyingly long leash on home grown players who are just terrible. Two of them are currently on this team.
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04-21-13 02:58 PM #7
Re: Nova is tiresome. Call up Nuno or Wang.
I give Cashman some credit for piecing together a team with all the injuries. But Cashman (and the rest of the organization) is clueless when it comes to player usage, player promotion/demotion.
If they care at all about the team's performance this season, Nova has to go somewhere else. Either trade him if anyone wants him (doubt it), or send him to AAA. Nuno is wasting stellar starts at AAA that could be, at the very least, quality starts in the majors. He should have won the job over Nova out of spring training, really.
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04-21-13 03:12 PM #8
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Re: Nova is tiresome. Call up Nuno or Wang.
They could start by demoting Nova to the AAA rotation for some more work on command and developing a legit 3rd pitch, and moving Betances permanently to the bullpen.
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04-21-13 03:15 PM #9
Re: Nova is tiresome. Call up Nuno or Wang.
Wait, Warren is still on the team? He's pitched in two games all year, with his last being on the 9th. That's 7 innings all year for a guy who made exactly zero relief appearances in the minors.
1012 innings/2.81 ERA between two former starters in the mL sitting in the bullpen while a guy with a much inferior track record gets to stink up the joint. This team is retarded.
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04-21-13 03:21 PM #10
Re: Nova is tiresome. Call up Nuno or Wang.
Exactly it's not like they have to release him or something. Are they seriously that worried about what it will do to his ego/attitude if he's demoted? It happens. It happened to Cliff Lee at that stage of his career, too.
He's killing the MLB club. The Yankees are 6-11 in his last 17 starts.
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04-21-13 03:27 PM #11
Re: Nova is tiresome. Call up Nuno or Wang.
Does Nova have options left? Can he be sent to the minors without going through waivers?
Success is getting what you want. Happiness is wanting what you get. ~ Dale Carnegie
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04-21-13 03:28 PM #12
Re: Nova is tiresome. Call up Nuno or Wang.
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04-21-13 03:29 PM #13
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04-21-13 03:30 PM #14
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04-21-13 03:33 PM #15
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04-21-13 03:33 PM #16
Re: Nova is tiresome. Call up Nuno or Wang.
I stand corrected.
http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread...le#post7548590
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04-21-13 03:34 PM #17
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04-21-13 03:38 PM #18
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04-21-13 03:45 PM #19
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Re: Nova is tiresome. Call up Nuno or Wang.
Nova's stuff actually looked pretty nasty today, it was just all over the place. He could probably use some time in the minors, but not sure if the Yankees have anyone that is clearly a better option at this point.
Wang, should be out of the question. Its WAY too early to think about calling him up. Let's remember the guy hasn't pitched well at the ML level in about 5 years. Give him a little more than one AAA start (where he was on a pitch count).
Phelps has struggled out of the pen and isn't stretched out. Warren hasn't been used so who knows how far he could go in a game and how well he be prepared for the start.
Nuno is probably the best alternative option right now. That said its bit premature to call him up as the guy has less than 20 innings at AAA.
I think the Yankees need to send down one of Warren or Phelps, probably Warren since he hasn't been used. Let him get going in the AAA rotation again and give the Yankees some more options.
For now it seems like we're kind of stuck with Nova for at least another couple starts.
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04-21-13 03:55 PM #20
Re: Nova is tiresome. Call up Nuno or Wang.
I do think Wang needs to get his endurance up, but he also pitched well in the WBC (0 ER in 12 innings over 2 starts).
Nuno is probably the best alternative option right now. That said its bit premature to call him up as the guy has less than 20 innings at AAA.
For now it seems like we're kind of stuck with Nova for at least another couple starts.
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04-21-13 04:11 PM #21
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04-21-13 04:28 PM #22
Re: Nova is tiresome. Call up Nuno or Wang.
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04-21-13 06:18 PM #23
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Re: Nova is tiresome. Call up Nuno or Wang.
Its not just about endurance with Wang the guy hasn't had success in the majors for 5 years. His stuff has to be good and he's got to show consistency with it. Minor league results and what he did in the WBC facing two teams without any ML hitters is not meaningless, but its only a very small piece of the puzzle. If his stuff is not good and/or his command is not consistent he will get killed in the Majors. Its rare to see full comebacks like the one Wang is trying to make. I wish him the best and hope he can do it, but don't get your hopes up too quickly.
Regarding Nuno as a fan you're willing to take a shot on Nuno. The Yankees as an organization are not so quick to pull the trigger on moves like that. They are much more patient than we as fans are as they know any sort of set back can really derail the progress a prospect is making.
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04-21-13 06:54 PM #24
Re: Nova is tiresome. Call up Nuno or Wang.
He didn't make any excuses
Thank you for making me calm today, Brett Gardner
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04-21-13 08:54 PM #25
Re: Nova is tiresome. Call up Nuno or Wang.
My guess is Michael Pineda is about a month away from a rehab assignment. I think the wisest thing to do is stick with Nova and hope for a Pineda sighting in June. If Pineda isn't ready, there should be enough of a track record to make a decision on Nova, either way.
This gives guys like Phelps, Warren, Nuno and even Wang a bit more time to prepare for a possible opportunity.
Remember, 40% of the rotation (Pettitte & Hughes) have some pretty real health concerns.
It's way too early to make panic/premature decisions."Somebody once asked me if I ever went up to the plate trying to hit a home run. I said, 'Sure, every time.'" -- Mickey Mantle
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