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  1. #51
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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    not bad. good interview too.

    jays are still paying him. that's the best part
    Actually I don't think that's accurate. Not only did Angels' GM Reagins give up Napoli and Rivera to get Wells from the Jays, he only got $5MM in relief (I'm assuming all paid in '11). Not sure how Anthopolous got Reagins to take that contract and actually give value up in return. With how well Napoli produced (albeit for Texas) and how atrocious Wells was in Anaheim, this trade always comes to mind for me when considering "disastrous trades".

    So it's really the Angels that are still paying him, and a lot.

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    Quote Originally Posted by False1 View Post
    Actually I don't think that's accurate. Not only did Angels' GM Reagins give up Napoli and Rivera to get Wells from the Jays, he only got $5MM in relief (I'm assuming all paid in '11). Not sure how Anthopolous got Reagins to take that contract and actually give value up in return. With how well Napoli produced (albeit for Texas) and how atrocious Wells was in Anaheim, this trade always comes to mind for me when considering "disastrous trades".

    So it's really the Angels that are still paying him, and a lot.
    according to cots, jays are paying his signing bonus still
    always reasonable

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    according to cots, jays are paying his signing bonus still
    Considering that I don't see that on cot's, that cot's says his signing bonus was paid in full by '10, and that cot's (and others) say the Jays paid only $5mm I'm going to say you're incorrect.

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    click the link on there.

    Wells, Vernon signing bonus paid by Toronto -$3,642,857 ($3.643)

    that's his 25mish signing bonus spread out over the contract.

    i guess they might have paid it in 3 years, but for cap purpose it's still counted as paid in 2013. or they could have reworked that to backload it even more.
    always reasonable

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    click the link on there.

    Wells, Vernon signing bonus paid by Toronto -$3,642,857 ($3.643)

    that's his 25mish signing bonus spread out over the contract.

    i guess they might have paid it in 3 years, but for cap purpose it's still counted as paid in 2013. or they could have reworked that to backload it even more.
    What link?

    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/co...-york-yankees/

    Quote Originally Posted by cot's
    Vernon Wells of
    7 years/$126M (2008-14)
    • signed extension with Toronto 12/06
    • $25.5M signing bonus ($8.5M payment each March 1, 2008-10)
    • 08:$0.5M, 09:$1.5M, 10:$12.5M,
    • 11:$23M, 12:$21M, 13:$21M, 14:$21M
    • full no-trade clause (waived 1/11)
    • Wells may opt out of contract after 2011
    • award bonuses: $0.25M for MVP, $0.2M for WS MVP, $0.15M for LCS MVP, $0.1M for most All-Star votes in league
    • Wells to donate $143,000 annually to Blue Jays charity
    • acquired by LA Angels in trade from Toronto 1/21/11 (Jays paid Angels $5M in deal)
    • acquired by NY Yankees in trade from LA Angels 3/24/13, with Angels paying $28.1M, Yankees $13.9M ($11.5M in 2013, $2.4M in 2014) of remaining $42M in salary

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    Quote Originally Posted by False1 View Post
    I think he's saying that for AAV purposes, the signing bonus is spread out over the length of the contract. But AAV has nothing to do with what he's actually being paid now, which the Jays are paying none of.
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    Vernon Wells went 3-for-5 with a solo homer and two runs scored in a 5-3 win over the Blue Jays in 11 innings on Saturday.
    Wells singled in the top of the 11th and scored the go-ahead run after Aaron Loup made a wild throw on a bunt by Ichiro Suzuki. The veteran outfielder has homered in consecutive days and now has five longballs through 15 games. He had just 11 homers in 77 games with the Angels last season.

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    always reasonable

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    according to cots, jays are paying his signing bonus still
    bolded
    always reasonable

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    guy is hitting .287/.341 /.504 and this thread is dead for 2 weeks?
    A fool and his money can throw one heck of a party!

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePinStripes View Post
    guy is hitting .287/.341 /.504 and this thread is dead for 2 weeks?
    Vernon Wells the past 2 weeks:
    .226 .250 .283 .533

    Mystery solved

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerkface View Post
    Vernon Wells the past 2 weeks:
    .226 .250 .283 .533

    Mystery solved
    Still better than I expected from him
    A fool and his money can throw one heck of a party!

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerkface View Post
    Vernon Wells the past 2 weeks:
    .226 .250 .283 .533

    Mystery solved
    Gross.

    Good showing tonight though.


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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    Vernon Wells really needs "performance" in his thread title after his showing last night. Not only did he knock in two of the three Yankee runs and score the third, but ... he recorded an assist at third base to help Mo save the game.

    • Wells likes to take ground balls at third base because he thinks it helps keep his hands nimble. Girardi saw him doing it earlier this season and was impressed. It was just today that Girardi told Wells that he was being considered as the backup infielder while Eduardo Nunez is hurt. “As soon as I saw Travis coming up, I knew I was going to end up playing third,” Wells said. “Once Boeschy was called safe, I was like a little kid jumping around. Then I quickly stopped and realized I had to play third base and get my head together. … I’m looking over at (infield coach Mick Kelleher) in the dugout and he’s like, ‘Hey, you’ve got to play in.’ I’m like, ‘What? I’ve got to play in? This is already in!’”

    • Stuck in a slump, Wells broke out with a 3-for-4 night that included a two-run homer and the game-winning run. But he said the highlight was playing third. “Taking ground balls while Mo is warming up, then I look up and I’m throwing the ball to Mariano Rivera, it’s a cool feeling,” Wells said. “… Hopefully instincts take over. Go catch it and hopefully you hit Lyle’s glove on the other side of the field. You have fun with this game; that was one of the cooler moments of my career.”

    • The hilarious story of the last time Wells played the infield: “I got hit in the mouth when I was 12 at second base and I moved to the outfield. In high school, report cards came out and our entire infield failed, so I had to go play short. That’s a true story.”
    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2013/05/0...game-notes-39/

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    good showing by Wells at 3rd. Before that inning I would have bet my life savings that a ball would be hit in his direction.
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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    Quote Originally Posted by -tz View Post
    Vernon Wells really needs "performance" in his thread title after his showing last night. Not only did he knock in two of the three Yankee runs and score the third, but ... he recorded an assist at third base to help Mo save the game.

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2013/05/0...game-notes-39/
    It's so cool that he is still excited even though he's a veteran. I like his attitude and love the story about report cards.
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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    Did a story on Vernon today for Examiner.com if anyone's interested:

    http://www.examiner.com/article/cast...to-first-place

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    "Deep to left! Yastrzemski will not get it! It's a home run! A three-run homer by Bucky Dent! And the Yankees now lead by a score of 3-2!" - New York Yankees announcer Bill White (October 2, 1978)

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerkface View Post
    Vernon Wells the past 2 weeks:
    .226 .250 .283 .533


    Mystery solved
    Then again, those numbers can happen with even the best hitters over the same period. Not to compare the two, but Pujols' line doesn't look much better:
    196.228.392.620.
    Yankee fan living in Maine.

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    Quote Originally Posted by apalradio View Post
    Then again, those numbers can happen with even the best hitters over the same period. Not to compare the two, but Pujols' line doesn't look much better:
    196.228.392.620.
    Didn't you get the memo? Vernon Wells is God awful, whereas Albert Pujols is, well, Albert Pujols.

    No comparison whatsoever.

    Forgive me for taking the Contrarian view

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    I like Wells...

    'Kick ass. Pop champagne. And get some ho's.'

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    He's certainly has been a TH for several games. That means nothing but solid play.

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    will fall back to earth but already done more than expected lol
    always reasonable

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    Keeps crushing the ball.

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    Re: 2013 Vernon Wells

    Keep on drinking those Canadian milkshakes, Vern
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