Hiroki Kuroda or pick

[anubis7010]

at first i thought HK but now i'm thinking pick. HK is only pitching 1 more year. while he did pitch better than expected i dont think he can repeat the year he had not saying he is going to pitch horrible. i feel the pick is more valuable. how worse off would we be if we gave all HK starts to phelps. i would not be mad if they sign him but right now i'm thinking pick unless someone can change my mind.

[snapple]

Kuroda. Didn't even have to think.

[tim2nyy]

Change your mind.

[effdamets]

I think I take the pick.
I have a very difficult time believing that Hiro will come close to repeating what he did last sesaon. And instead of overpaying for what could be a league average pitcher, get a new arm into the system, save the money and let Phelps pitch.

[longtimeyankeefan]

This question is a very valid question and one that can be debated either way, IMO.

At the moment, our rotation is

Sabathia
Hughes
Nova
Phelps
Warren

I am presuming Adam Warren would be the fifth starter as the roster currently stands. Pineda is not supposed to be ready until mid-season and Betances has basically fallen off the radar screen.

Assuming Pettitte re-signs with the Yankees, he would move into the #2 spot, with Phelps/Warren battling for the 5th spot.

I clearly would not suggest that we go into the season with a starting staff where Andy Pettitte is the #2 starter (he is, at best, a #3 IMO) - Kuroda would provide a significant upgrade to the staff if re-signed.

The issue, however, is for how much and how long - it is certainly conceivable that Kuroda will receive multi-year offers and he has already turned down $13.3M from the Yankees. If he is willing to accept a one-year, $15M deal, I say sign him and forego the draft pick.

However, if the issue becomes a multi-year deal, I say pass and take the draft pick.

IMO, your choices need to include an "IT DEPENDS" option, which is what I select.

[Jerkface]

The Yankees should be getting 2 picks back from Soriano & Swisher. They need Kuroda to compete next year, and thus they should sign him and take the 2 picks from So & Swish.

[Jax Teller]

As much as I like Kuroda, he won't be here long-term. I choose the pick.

Wouldn't mind him coming back either.

[grizy]

Study after study have shown picks beyond the top 10 are basically crap shoots.

I'll take Kuroda over a supplemental pick 10/10.

[bcom33]

When is the last time a pick of ours became a pitcher as good as Hiroki Kuroda was last year?

[effdamets]

When is the last time a pick of ours became a pitcher as good as Hiroki Kuroda was last year?

This is true.
But on the flip side...
When was any pick 38 years old?

[bcom33]

This is true.
But on the flip side...
When was any pick 38 years old?

Lol, also true.

[Yankee Tripper]

Study after study have shown picks beyond the top 10 are basically crap shoots.

I'll take Kuroda over a supplemental pick 10/10.

Once again Grizy is the voice of reason!

[Chacon]

Not often that you don't have to throw a ton of years at a top tier pitcher

Give me Kuroda everytime

[nnysiny]

Kuroda is the most important part of the offseason. keep him if you can

[Louisville Slugger]

Kuroda was our most consistent pitcher last season. I'd try and re-sign him.

[NelsonMuntz]

Study after study have shown picks beyond the top 10 are basically crap shoots.

I'll take Kuroda over a supplemental pick 10/10.

This. Without Kuroda we're lacking a solid #2 starter behind CC.

[jcarey]

I think I take the pick.
I have a very difficult time believing that Hiro will come close to repeating what he did last sesaon. And instead of overpaying for what could be a league average pitcher, get a new arm into the system, save the money and let Phelps pitch.

Ditto. I appreciate very much what he did for us last year, but I doubt he puts up another season like that. Hughes, time to step up.

[awy]

Kuroda

[jcarey]

Study after study have shown picks beyond the top 10 are basically crap shoots.

I'll take Kuroda over a supplemental pick 10/10.

Spot on re: the pick. I don't expect much from it. I just don't think Kuroda will be as effective next season. He was probably a bit lucky last year, although he's pulled that off two yeats in a row.

I wouldn't cry if we resigned him. $15 million seems high, but one year is great.

[awy]

i tried to play a ootp game with budget constraints. lasted about a month before i said ................ it and just edited cano to have 250 in every stat.

in budget constraint situation the additional value of a flexible short term deal gets more important. kuroda would be good without that, but he does. so it's a no brainer

[ymike673]

Got to keep Kuroda. What if Andy decides to retire again?

[anubis7010]

I think I take the pick.
I have a very difficult time believing that Hiro will come close to repeating what he did last sesaon. And instead of overpaying for what could be a league average pitcher, get a new arm into the system, save the money and let Phelps pitch.

That is what i believe too.

[grizy]

15m for 1 year of 190-200ip 100ERA+ pitcher is not an overpay.

Even the Marlins were willing to give Buehrle (worse records, though younger) 58/4.

That should tell you a little bit about what league "average" 100~115ERA+ 200IP pitchers are worth in the open market.

Yankees themselves were willing to give Kuroda 26/2. It was Kuroda that turned it down.

[BronxYanks45]

pick can be a crapshoot and we then wont have a #2 starter. CC is coming off elbow surgery, not sure if Pettitte can stay healthy enough to give you 150 innings and both Nova/Hughes are that consistent.

We need Kuroda

[snapple]

pick can be a crapshoot and we then wont have a #2 starter. CC is coming off elbow surgery, not sure if Pettitte can stay healthy enough to give you 150 innings and both Nova/Hughes are that consistent.

We need Kuroda

He got hit by a line drive to the ankle. I don't think health is really an issue.