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    Hiroki Kuroda or pick

    at first i thought HK but now i'm thinking pick. HK is only pitching 1 more year. while he did pitch better than expected i dont think he can repeat the year he had not saying he is going to pitch horrible. i feel the pick is more valuable. how worse off would we be if we gave all HK starts to phelps. i would not be mad if they sign him but right now i'm thinking pick unless someone can change my mind.

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    Kuroda. Didn't even have to think.
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    Change your mind.

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    Re: Hiroki Kuroda or pick

    I think I take the pick.
    I have a very difficult time believing that Hiro will come close to repeating what he did last sesaon. And instead of overpaying for what could be a league average pitcher, get a new arm into the system, save the money and let Phelps pitch.
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    Re: Hiroki Kuroda or pick

    This question is a very valid question and one that can be debated either way, IMO.

    At the moment, our rotation is

    Sabathia
    Hughes
    Nova
    Phelps
    Warren

    I am presuming Adam Warren would be the fifth starter as the roster currently stands. Pineda is not supposed to be ready until mid-season and Betances has basically fallen off the radar screen.

    Assuming Pettitte re-signs with the Yankees, he would move into the #2 spot, with Phelps/Warren battling for the 5th spot.

    I clearly would not suggest that we go into the season with a starting staff where Andy Pettitte is the #2 starter (he is, at best, a #3 IMO) - Kuroda would provide a significant upgrade to the staff if re-signed.

    The issue, however, is for how much and how long - it is certainly conceivable that Kuroda will receive multi-year offers and he has already turned down $13.3M from the Yankees. If he is willing to accept a one-year, $15M deal, I say sign him and forego the draft pick.

    However, if the issue becomes a multi-year deal, I say pass and take the draft pick.

    IMO, your choices need to include an "IT DEPENDS" option, which is what I select.
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    The Yankees should be getting 2 picks back from Soriano & Swisher. They need Kuroda to compete next year, and thus they should sign him and take the 2 picks from So & Swish.

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    As much as I like Kuroda, he won't be here long-term. I choose the pick.

    Wouldn't mind him coming back either.

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    Study after study have shown picks beyond the top 10 are basically crap shoots.

    I'll take Kuroda over a supplemental pick 10/10.

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    Re: Hiroki Kuroda or pick

    When is the last time a pick of ours became a pitcher as good as Hiroki Kuroda was last year?
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    Re: Hiroki Kuroda or pick

    Quote Originally Posted by bcom33 View Post
    When is the last time a pick of ours became a pitcher as good as Hiroki Kuroda was last year?
    This is true.
    But on the flip side...
    When was any pick 38 years old?
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    Re: Hiroki Kuroda or pick

    Quote Originally Posted by effdamets View Post
    This is true.
    But on the flip side...
    When was any pick 38 years old?
    Lol, also true.
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    Re: Hiroki Kuroda or pick

    Quote Originally Posted by grizy View Post
    Study after study have shown picks beyond the top 10 are basically crap shoots.

    I'll take Kuroda over a supplemental pick 10/10.
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    Not often that you don't have to throw a ton of years at a top tier pitcher

    Give me Kuroda everytime
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    Kuroda is the most important part of the offseason. keep him if you can

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    Kuroda was our most consistent pitcher last season. I'd try and re-sign him.

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    Re: Hiroki Kuroda or pick

    Quote Originally Posted by grizy View Post
    Study after study have shown picks beyond the top 10 are basically crap shoots.

    I'll take Kuroda over a supplemental pick 10/10.
    This. Without Kuroda we're lacking a solid #2 starter behind CC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by effdamets View Post
    I think I take the pick.
    I have a very difficult time believing that Hiro will come close to repeating what he did last sesaon. And instead of overpaying for what could be a league average pitcher, get a new arm into the system, save the money and let Phelps pitch.
    Ditto. I appreciate very much what he did for us last year, but I doubt he puts up another season like that. Hughes, time to step up.


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    Kuroda
    always reasonable

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    Quote Originally Posted by grizy View Post
    Study after study have shown picks beyond the top 10 are basically crap shoots.

    I'll take Kuroda over a supplemental pick 10/10.
    Spot on re: the pick. I don't expect much from it. I just don't think Kuroda will be as effective next season. He was probably a bit lucky last year, although he's pulled that off two yeats in a row.

    I wouldn't cry if we resigned him. $15 million seems high, but one year is great.


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    i tried to play a ootp game with budget constraints. lasted about a month before i said ................ it and just edited cano to have 250 in every stat.

    in budget constraint situation the additional value of a flexible short term deal gets more important. kuroda would be good without that, but he does. so it's a no brainer
    always reasonable

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    Re: Hiroki Kuroda or pick

    Got to keep Kuroda. What if Andy decides to retire again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by effdamets View Post
    I think I take the pick.
    I have a very difficult time believing that Hiro will come close to repeating what he did last sesaon. And instead of overpaying for what could be a league average pitcher, get a new arm into the system, save the money and let Phelps pitch.

    That is what i believe too.

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    Re: Hiroki Kuroda or pick

    15m for 1 year of 190-200ip 100ERA+ pitcher is not an overpay.

    Even the Marlins were willing to give Buehrle (worse records, though younger) 58/4.

    That should tell you a little bit about what league "average" 100~115ERA+ 200IP pitchers are worth in the open market.

    Yankees themselves were willing to give Kuroda 26/2. It was Kuroda that turned it down.

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    Re: Hiroki Kuroda or pick

    pick can be a crapshoot and we then wont have a #2 starter. CC is coming off elbow surgery, not sure if Pettitte can stay healthy enough to give you 150 innings and both Nova/Hughes are that consistent.

    We need Kuroda
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    Quote Originally Posted by BronxYanks45 View Post
    pick can be a crapshoot and we then wont have a #2 starter. CC is coming off elbow surgery, not sure if Pettitte can stay healthy enough to give you 150 innings and both Nova/Hughes are that consistent.

    We need Kuroda
    He got hit by a line drive to the ankle. I don't think health is really an issue.
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