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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by -tz View Post
    Seriously. to start a thread you have to have a certain number of posts and you have to have been a member for a certain length of time. I think it's 50 posts and 6 months; at least, it was that at one time or another. Unfortunately the link to the FAQ about such matters seems to be broken. It used to be here:
    There is an FAQ link at the top of the page. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to mention the requirements for starting a thread.
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    88.5 wins in Vegas


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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    I think Baltimore overachieved last year, but 77.5?
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    at 88.5 they are still division favorites. i dont bet, but would certainly take the over up to 92.5

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    There is an FAQ link at the top of the page. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to mention the requirements for starting a thread.
    Yup, that's just the generic vBulletin FAQ provided by the makers of the software.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by -tz View Post
    Seriously. to start a thread you have to have a certain number of posts and you have to have been a member for a certain length of time. I think it's 50 posts and 6 months; at least, it was that at one time or another. Unfortunately the link to the FAQ about such matters seems to be broken. It used to be here:
    I don't remember what the numbers are, but it's not that high. Maybe 50 posts and 2 weeks or something like that. Since that policy went into effect the number of spammers has been reduced to nearly zero.
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    I don't know if anyone caught it, but Mariano Rivera gave Buster Olney a quote re: retirement earlier today. My apologies if it's already been covered since this morning, I've been out most of the day.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/yank...-at-retirement

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Doug View Post
    88.5 wins in Vegas

    In the AL East, I take the Yanks, Rays and O's over their numbers and the Sox and Jays under. No incredible conviction on any of those picks though...this is a really tough division to figure this year...

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by dpfeiffer View Post
    I don't know if anyone caught it, but Mariano Rivera gave Buster Olney a quote re: retirement earlier today. My apologies if it's already been covered since this morning, I've been out most of the day.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/yank...-at-retirement
    I love Mo, but I'm really getting tired of the constant stories and coy comments on will he or won't he retire. enough. Just say you're not sure and that you take it one year at a time and let's stop hearing about this.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeFan1421 View Post
    I love Mo, but I'm really getting tired of the constant stories and coy comments on will he or won't he retire. enough. Just say you're not sure and that you take it one year at a time and let's stop hearing about this.
    I don't think it's Mo who's making a story of this. It's the press. He already said last year what his decsion was. So he's comng back this year to finish what he started last year. Personally, I have no expectation of seeing him again next year. It's only the writers who are making a story of this.
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Doug View Post
    88.5 wins in Vegas

    Jays under 87.5? I think you underestimate the strength of their pitching. Ricky Romero is cast as the #5 guy in their rotation. That's too strong not to win 90 +games and probably the division. Assuming, of course, that they aren't ravaged by injury again this year.
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

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    88.5 wins in Vegas


    Allan, I didn't make the lines, but I agree Toronto is too low.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Allan View Post
    Jays under 87.5? I think you underestimate the strength of their pitching. Ricky Romero is cast as the #5 guy in their rotation. That's too strong not to win 90 +games and probably the division. Assuming, of course, that they aren't ravaged by injury again this year.
    I don't think they're a lock to go over actually. I'd probably take the under on your 90+ wins.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

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    Allan, I didn't make the lines, but I agree Toronto is too low.
    Sorry, my post was meant to be in response to YankeeFan 1421 (post 5083). Not sure what happened.
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Allan View Post
    Sorry, my post was meant to be in response to YankeeFan 1421 (post 5083). Not sure what happened.
    I think Toronto is not quite as improved as many think. obviously they will almost certainly be more of a force than last year and will mostly likely be in the mix well past labor day...

    that said...it's always risky business thinking a team is suddenly 14 games better than the year before. As I said, I don't have really strong convictions on any of my picks...so even if I go 5 for 5, I won't be taking any bows, but a lot of things really have to go right for them to get to the upper 80's in my view, and they still need to contend with the Rays and Yankees for 36 games.

    I know the Rays are supposedly taking a half step back, and definitely Shields and Upton are losses, but Longoria missed a lot of time last season and Moore had a very respectable rookie season and strikes me as ready to take the next step really quickly.

    We'll see...very interesting and I think hard to predict division this year.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    I just read on rotoworld that the Cubs may be willing to eat $26M of the 2/$36M owed to Soriano. He was a 4 win player last year and he's a RH OF bat, just what the Yankees need. I'd consider Soriano if he'd only cost $10M over the next two seasons, that's for sure.

    He has a career .864 OPS against LHP.

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    I want no part of Soriano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84 View Post
    I just read on rotoworld that the Cubs may be willing to eat $26M of the 2/$36M owed to Soriano. He was a 4 win player last year and he's a RH OF bat, just what the Yankees need. I'd consider Soriano if he'd only cost $10M over the next two seasons, that's for sure.

    He has a career .864 OPS against LHP.
    Payments offset the luxury tax hit per season, so if they stacked most of the money for 2014 then he theoretically could cost 0 against the luxury tax or offer actual salary RELIEF for that year. So if they put 17 towards 2014 and 9 towards 2013. He'd count as 8 for 2013 and 0 for 2014. Pretty good but too expensive still.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerkface View Post
    Payments offset the luxury tax hit per season, so if they stacked most of the money for 2014 then he theoretically could cost 0 against the luxury tax or offer actual salary RELIEF for that year. So if they put 17 towards 2014 and 9 towards 2013. He'd count as 8 for 2013 and 0 for 2014. Pretty good but too expensive still.
    If I'm lead to believe that management is most concerned with the luxury tax number, that would be a deal they should look into. I'm not familiar enough with the rules to verify whether or not that's possible, nor if I'm sure that's something that's feasible... but I would be very okay with that deal as long as we don't give up anything significant in return.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Soriano would be a potent RH bat in a lineup that could use one. The problem with him is simply that he's been way overpaid. If the Cubs eat that much of his salary, why not?
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

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    Soriano would be a potent RH bat in a lineup that could use one. The problem with him is simply that he's been way overpaid. If the Cubs eat that much of his salary, why not?
    Would have to see what the cubs want back
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Cubs would have to pay atleast half of his contract then I'd be willing to send them an OF prospect not named Williams, Heathcott or Austin
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Could they trade A Rod to the Cubs to get Soriano? Seems fair since the Yankees had to trade Soriano to get A Rod in the first place

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    I would so trade A-Rod for Soriano. Unfortunately the Cubs aren't that dumb.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    I wouldn't.
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