New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

[Tifoso]

Have the signed a righty OFer yet?

[Mr Coffee]

Have the signed a righty OFer yet?

Nothing yet. Do what I'm doing-- stay by your phone in case they call.

[Tifoso]

Nothing yet. Do what I'm doing-- stay by your phone in case they call.

Thanks for the response, sir.

I doubt the Yanks would call. Maybe the Pirates.

[pleasepassthesoup]

I like the idea of Pronk, but he's only managed to play 100 games once in the last five years. Maybe it could be like Eric Chavez where a limited role can keep him on the field. He does have an OPS+ of 125 since 2009, even through the injuries and you know Yankee Stadium would suit him well.

[The FUTURE]

I know Thome is another LH bat, but I would rather have him over Hafner.

[Jax Teller]

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2013/01/3...ankees+Blog%29

non-roster invites

[VirginiaYank]

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2013/01/3...ankees+Blog%29

non-roster invites

No Betances? Know Banuelos is rehabbing but thought Dellin was healthy.

[Jax Teller]

No Betances? Know Banuelos is rehabbing but thought Dellin was healthy.

Dellin is on the 40 Man. He gets an automatic invite.

[VirginiaYank]

Dellin is on the 40 Man. He gets an automatic invite.

Thanks. I forgot about the automatic invites from the 40 man....

[wang+cano=future]

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2013/01/3...ankees+Blog%29

non-roster invites

Surprised Mason Williams isnt on the list.......Shoulder still hurt?

[flymick24]

They're probably gonna be super cautious with him and let him take it slow this spring

[YankeeFan1421]

So figuring in Hafner now, the Yankees this winter have raised their payroll by about $15mm and figure to have their highest opening day payroll ever at $212mm

So much for the theory that the Yankees aren't investing in their product, huh?

[sweet_lou_14]

So figuring in Hafner now, the Yankees this winter have raised their payroll by about $15mm and figure to have their highest opening day payroll ever at $212mm

So much for the theory that the Yankees aren't investing in their product, huh?

I'm being very lazy here, but it sounds like that $15M is basically arbitration raises plus $12M for Kevin Youkilis to replace a broken-down A-Rod. Easy to see why nobody's very excited.

[Black Sabbathia]

I'm being very lazy here, but it sounds like that $15M is basically arbitration raises plus $12M for Kevin Youkilis to replace a broken-down A-Rod. Easy to see why nobody's very excited.

Andy also got a big raise from 2.5m to 12m, and Kuroda got a raise from 10m to 15m. 6.5m to Ichiro (Swisher made 10.25 last year). 2m to Hafner. Plus the built in escalations to vets like Jeter, Granderson and Cano.

It all adds up.

[longtimeyankeefan]

Andy also got a big raise from 2.5m to 12m, and Kuroda got a raise from 10m to 15m. 6.5m to Ichiro (Swisher made 10.25 last year). 2m to Hafner. Plus the built in escalations to vets like Jeter, Granderson and Cano.

It all adds up.

Jete and Cano both got $1M raises, while Grandy went up $3M according to Cots - there is $5M by itself.

[YankeeFan1421]

I'm being very lazy here, but it sounds like that $15M is basically arbitration raises plus $12M for Kevin Youkilis to replace a broken-down A-Rod. Easy to see why nobody's very excited.

Well, that much I understand...it's not been an 'exciting' postseason as much of the dollars has been to keep their staff together and Mo and they are already committed to huge contracts in Arod and Tex.

But it runs contrary to the idea that the Yankees are being cheap or not spending on payroll. They are...more than ever, actually.

[TrueYankee01]

Andy also got a big raise from 2.5m to 12m, and Kuroda got a raise from 10m to 15m. 6.5m to Ichiro (Swisher made 10.25 last year). 2m to Hafner. Plus the built in escalations to vets like Jeter, Granderson and Cano.

It all adds up.

Yea but a lot comes off after next season...

Youk, Cano, Kuroda, Pettitte, Hughes, Rivera, Jeter, Hafner, Granderson, Joba, etc...

Obviously some of which will be reallocated into some of those players, I presume.

[SatchelPaigeYankee]

Yea but a lot comes off after next season...

Youk, Cano, Kuroda, Pettitte, Hughes, Rivera, Jeter, Hafner, Granderson, Joba, etc...

Obviously some of which will be reallocated into some of those players, I presume.

Hughes, Logan, also.

yep, according to
http://www.baseball-reference.com/te...2-roster.shtml

only 80 mil committed, and a projected 110 mil with all arb cases projected. But we only have 1B, SS, 3B, "2" OF (Gardner and Ichiro), and 3 certain SP (CC, Nova, Pineda, besides Phelps, Warren), 2 RP (DRob, Rapada), and backup catchers.

That's like 12-14 players.


*edited to reflect reality

[Black Sabbathia]

Ichiro is signed through 2014 and D-Rob still has arb years

[JL25and3]

Ichiro is signed through 2014 and D-Rob still has arb years

S.P.Y. was counting them among the 12-14 players they have for 2014.

[jcarey]

Hughes, Logan, also.

yep, according to
http://www.baseball-reference.com/te...2-roster.shtml

only 80 mil committed, and a projected 110 mil with all arb cases projected. But we only have 1B, SS, 3B, "2" OF (Gardner and Ichiro), and 3 certain SP (CC, Nova, Pineda, besides Phelps, Warren), 2 RP (DRob, Rapada), and backup catchers.

That's like 12-14 players.


*edited to reflect reality

I'm confident the bullpen can be fleshed out entirely from within. I'm hopeful that one of Williams, Austin, or Heathcott will solve our 3rd OFer problem by moving quickly in 2013 and giving us confidence that one will be ready at some point in 2014 (in which case we sign a stop-gap to get us through part of the season). I'm assuming that we drop $20-25 million on Cano and then our IF is set. I'm tentatively OK with bringing Stewart back, assuming his pitch framing is good and not offset by terrible offense.

I'd like to see Pineda become what we thought he would be or trade for a #1/2 starter to pair with CC. The rest of the rotation can be filled out with cheap options like Nova and Phelps.

So the big expenses for 2014 are Cano and someone to complete the 1-2 punch at the top of the rotation. I'd be pleased if we used the Pettitte, Kuroda, Rivera, and Granderson money to resign Cano and land/pay for a top flight starter.

[snapple]

I'm okay with a longterm deal with Cano. He can always move to 1B after Tex leaves. He would probably be just as productive.

[Jax Teller]

http://riveraveblues.com/2013/02/201...ections-82021/

[bcom33]

Really interesting article from Jim Bowden on the importance of the 2014 free-agent class to the Yankees' future: http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/the-...e/post?id=5852

However, consider the 2014 class. The top five reads like an All-Star Game rotation: Justin Verlander, Clayton Kershaw, Felix Hernandez, James Shields and Brett Anderson, who has the potential to be a Cy Young candidate someday. That’s three of the best starters in baseball and two more who are pretty close, all eligible for free agency. (The A's hold a 2015 option for Anderson, so he might have to wait a year.)

So, imagine the Yankees with a reset tax history and cleared payroll ready to rebuild their starting rotation. They could do it in one offseason. Or perhaps two? The 2015 class is almost as loaded with pitching as 2014's, headlined by David Price, Cliff Lee, Johnny Cueto and Yovani Gallardo.

[flymick24]

a great majority of those pitchers will probably not make it to free agency