New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

[sweet_lou_14]

Angels: Favorites to win the AL pennant?

[flymick24]

seems like they just gave him greinke's money

[THEBOSS84]

Angels: Favorites to win the AL pennant?

This post was made last year at this time as well. Then they got Greinke and Trout became the best player in baseball. Then they missed the playoffs.

[BeantownYankee]

don deal, hamilton to angels for 5 years, total $$ unknown

The Angels had to make this move to keep pace witht he dodgers for the la fan base.....
Now the other free agents should fall fast, thinking swish will go next...

[False1]

No power in lineup besides Cano and Tex. I don't see that happening unless the Yankees are looking to miss the playoffs two years in a row.

And Ibanez, assuming they sign him. Or some other power hitting DH option. But that doesn't really change your point, which I understand. I'm talking more about as a fan what I'd prefer. I really enjoy Granderson's game (I know many don't), and think he could be a major contributer next year. Even if he doesn't materially improve offensively from last season, as long as he and Gardner switch spots.

But if top talent like Bauer is the going rate for 1 year of Granderson, I'd prefer that they do it, even though I'm not certain they would.

[Bleacher_Creature]

5/125 according to ESPN Dallas...wow...

[Jerkface]

This post was made last year at this time as well. Then they got Greinke and Trout became the best player in baseball. Then they missed the playoffs.

They had that unfortunate start to the season. Were the best or one of the best teams once Trout got up there. Divisions are a fickle mistress, so disaster may befall them again. I hope it does anyways.

[BeantownYankee]

They had that unfortunate start to the season. Were the best or one of the best teams once Trout got up there. Divisions are a fickle mistress, so disaster may befall them again. I hope it does anyways.

Or you may see a Dodger/Angel WS

[Black Sabbathia]

5/125.....damn

Angels offense should be sick for the next few years

Rangers have had an awful off-season so far. Do they make a desperation move now, or stay the course?

I wouldn't be surprised if they sign Bourne, he's the last big name FA out there

[BeantownYankee]

5/125.....damn

Angels offense should be sick for the next few years

Rangers have had an awful off-season so far. Do they make a desperation move now, or stay the course?

I wouldn't be surprised if they sign Bourne, he's the last big name FA out there

Or pay more for upton...hard to believe that even with this signing their payroll is much lower than ours...

The deal will push the Angels' payroll to the $165MM range, as Alden Gonzalez of MLB.com points out (on Twitter). It would represent a franchise record, but would not push the team past baseball's luxury tax.

Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#QxBeUY40mvztQmLK.99

[BeantownYankee]

Sox sign Dempster.....in a few weeks there should be some bodies left for cash to pick through...

The Red Sox have agreed to sign right-hander Ryan Dempster, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (Twitter links). The sides have agreed to a two-year, $26.5MM contract, pending a physical.

Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#BQkqhC8ScgRBFJFy.99

[sweet_lou_14]

This post was made last year at this time as well. Then they got Greinke and Trout became the best player in baseball. Then they missed the playoffs.

Very true. Hopefully it's clear that I'm no Chicken Little. But on paper they've got a strong team there.

[Black Sabbathia]

Sox sign Dempster.....in a few weeks there should be some bodies left for cash to pick through...

The Red Sox have agreed to sign right-hander Ryan Dempster, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (Twitter links). The sides have agreed to a two-year, $26.5MM contract, pending a physical.

Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#BQkqhC8ScgRBFJFy.99

I'm enjoying watching the Red Sox waste their money on mediocre players this off-season

[jcarey]

Not to get anyone all amped up, but this reminds me of the build up of when Tex was on the Sox' doorstep.

Hah, my "I hate the Angels" comment was made independent of any Hamilton signing. I just hate the Angels. Period.

[jcarey]

I'm enjoying watching the Red Sox waste their money on mediocre players this off-season

Since 2008, Dempster has had an ERA+ of 154, 122, 110, 81, 124. Who knows what was going on in 2011, but that's far from mediocre and comparable to Haren, who got $13 million for 2013.

Seems about right to me.

[THEBOSS84]

Since 2008, Dempster has had an ERA+ of 154, 122, 110, 81, 124. Who knows what was going on in 2011, but that's far from mediocre and comparable to Haren, who got $13 million for 2013.

Seems about right to me.

Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 Dempster goes to #Redsox, his career v. #Yankees: 5GS 0-4, 7.62 ERA.

[jcarey]

Edit: and the Angels are assuredly trading for a starter after this signing.

Any interest in Morales for DH? Cheap option, considerable upside in his second season back from the leg injury, is actually a pretty good 1B for when Tex is out or needs a rest, and I'm GUESSING he could play RF in a pinch.

[THEBOSS84]

Andrew Bolf ‏@AndrewBolf Josh Hamilton 2012 WAR: 3.4. Torii Hunter 2012 WAR: 5.5.

[jcarey]

Joel Sherman ‏@Joelsherman1 Dempster goes to #Redsox, his career v. #Yankees: 5GS 0-4, 7.62 ERA.

Psh, Justin Verlander has a 4.55 career ERA against the Indians. The INDIANS.

[DaBliz]

Since 2008, Dempster has had an ERA+ of 154, 122, 110, 81, 124. Who knows what was going on in 2011, but that's far from mediocre and comparable to Haren, who got $13 million for 2013.

Seems about right to me.

Over performed last year because of low BABIP and that 154 ERA+ was 5 years ago. He's average to slightly above average, moving from a bad division to the best one, and 35. The deal isn't terrible but has a lot of risk. It's way more likely that he's a huge bust than him reaching a 130 ERA+ in either season.

[jcarey]

Andrew Bolf ‏@AndrewBolf Josh Hamilton 2012 WAR: 3.4. Torii Hunter 2012 WAR: 5.5.

Stop it with this nonsense! Torii posted the highest WAR of his career last year. He walked less, struck out more, and hit for less power than in previous season. But his BABIP was .389 for the season.

I guess moving out of CF helped with his defense, b/c that's where most of his value came from last year. I don't see him sustaining that either.

[THEBOSS84]

Stop it with this nonsense! Torii posted the highest WAR of his career last year. He walked less, struck out more, and hit for less power than in previous season. But his BABIP was .389 for the season.

I guess moving out of CF helped with his defense, b/c that's where most of his value came from last year. I don't see him sustaining that either.

I report, you decide.

[Black Sabbathia]

Yeah, there is no way that Hunter was more valuable than Hamilton last season. WAR has it's flaws

[JL25and3]

unless teixeira and granderson bounce back in a major way, 2013 is looking like a transition year

Which is fine, but: transition to what?

[THEBOSS84]

Which is fine, but: transition to what?

To an even worse 2014.