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  1. #2626
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Art Vanderlay View Post
    The sad reality is the Yankees don't have players in their system that anyone wants. Nobody is going to trade their young/productive cost controlled major league players for outfielders in A ball.
    Except that the rumor you're responding to entails an outfielder a year removed from A ball and a really terrible cost controlled major league player.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by False1 View Post
    Except that the rumor you're responding to entails an outfielder a year removed from A ball and a really terrible cost controlled major league player.
    What I said still applys, our prospects are not attractive to other teams.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by False1 View Post
    Except that the rumor you're responding to entails an outfielder a year removed from A ball and a really terrible cost controlled major league player.
    Gregorius is a SS and has good value, but your point still stands. Its not a package the Yankees couldn't match if they really wanted Choo.
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Gusto View Post
    Gregorius is a SS and has good value, but your point still stands. Its not a package the Yankees couldn't match if they really wanted Choo.
    I don't get why Gregorius would have good value, even as a SS. He can't hit or steal bases, so he projects as a utility infielder.
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    I've always liked Ichiro, but with Gardner coming back, I'm struggling to understand why re-signing him is a priority. I don't know what they're offering him...and perhaps it's due mainly to the one year contract, but wouldn't Cody Ross fit much better for the Yanks?

    They have an obvious issue against lefthanders and if the outfield is Ichiro, Granderson and Gardner, the entire outfield is lefthanded. Ross' OPS against left handers was over 1.000 last year...

    I saw Ichiro as a good proxy for Gardner last year when they needed one...now I'm not so sure why he's needed back.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Philip Hughes Fan View Post
    I don't get why Gregorius would have good value, even as a SS. He can't hit or steal bases, so he projects as a utility infielder.
    "Good" as opposed to the implication that he had next to no value, and relative to Stubbs' total lack of value. He plays a premium position and is often ranked among the Reds Top 10 prospects.
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    i'm sorry, but this lineup

    SS jeter
    RF ichiro
    2B cano
    1B teixeira
    3B youkilis
    LF granderson
    DH late january/febuary junk pile signing
    CF gardener
    C romine/cervelli

    is terrible... with all the pitching we have but an average lineup at best, we'll be like the pre-2012 A's

    85-90 wins max, and that's not gonna be enough, imo
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by flymick24 View Post
    i'm sorry, but this lineup

    SS jeter
    RF ichiro
    2B cano
    1B teixeira
    3B youkilis
    LF granderson
    DH late january/febuary junk pile signing
    CF gardener
    C romine/cervelli

    is terrible... with all the pitching we have but an average lineup at best, we'll be like the pre-2012 A's

    85-90 wins max, and that's not gonna be enough, imo
    This offense is really reliant on a sharp bounce back from Tex, Granderson and Youkilis.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Too few HRs?
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Re Youlkilis, I'm just excited that we're starting to sign youngsters on the right side of 40.


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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    The Yankees can and will win a lot of games with their pitching staff but considering how many are FA's after this season (Kuroda, Pettitte, Rivera, Hughes, Joba), every effort should be made to winning this year since it will be the last hurrah with this group. The offense definitely needs to improve. The drop off in power in power is noticeable.

    Also, would it be to much to ask for our 23M 1B to carry the power load for this team? He really manages to skate under the radar in this town somehow.
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Chacon View Post
    The Yankees can and will win a lot of games with their pitching staff but considering how many are FA's after this season (Kuroda, Pettitte, Rivera, Hughes, Joba), every effort should be made to winning this year since it will be the last hurrah with this group. The offense definitely needs to improve. The drop off in power in power is noticeable.

    Also, would it be to much to ask for our 23M 1B to carry the power load for this team? He really manages to skate under the radar in this town somehow.
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    btw, the reds are about to land shin soo choo by giving up drew stubbs and didi gregarius... basically the equivalent of brett gradener and eduardo nunez
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by flymick24 View Post
    btw, the reds are about to land shin soo choo by giving up drew stubbs and didi gregarius... basically the equivalent of brett gradener and eduardo nunez
    I think Gardner is way better than Stubbs :< if Nunez could play defense we'd be able to trade him

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Chacon View Post
    Also, would it be to much to ask for our 23M 1B to carry the power load for this team? He really manages to skate under the radar in this town somehow.
    Not any more. There will be a ton of pressure on Tex in 2013, especially without A-Rod to kick around.
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    is Bernie Williams available?

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Norge View Post
    is Bernie Williams available?
    For what?

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Yeah, I don't know how the Yankees don't match that. Especially seeing how Choo is a FA, so you don't have to commit past this year.



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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    The Indians were able to get Bauer+ by trading Choo. I would have traded Grandy for Bauer+ in a NY minute.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Chacon View Post
    The Yankees can and will win a lot of games with their pitching staff but considering how many are FA's after this season (Kuroda, Pettitte, Rivera, Hughes, Joba), every effort should be made to winning this year since it will be the last hurrah with this group. The offense definitely needs to improve. The drop off in power in power is noticeable.

    Also, would it be to much to ask for our 23M 1B to carry the power load for this team? He really manages to skate under the radar in this town somehow.
    That's why I believe trading Cano is the only way to go. The Yanks aren't going to contend in 2015 when the financial advantage to keep the PR below $189 is so great. Nor are they going to contend in years beyond that which contain bloated contracts for aging players such as ARod, Tex, and even CC.
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by flymick24 View Post
    i'm sorry, but this lineup

    SS jeter
    RF ichiro
    2B cano
    1B teixeira
    3B youkilis
    LF granderson
    DH late january/febuary junk pile signing
    CF gardener
    C romine/cervelli

    is terrible... with all the pitching we have but an average lineup at best, we'll be like the pre-2012 A's

    85-90 wins max, and that's not gonna be enough, imo
    That lineup is the worst this franchise has had since stump merril was trotting out steve sax, roberto kelly and mel hall.

    At least rick rhoden wont be pitching.....

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeFan1421 View Post
    That lineup is the worst this franchise has had since stump merril was trotting out steve sax, roberto kelly and mel hall.
    And those were the better Yankees too! Kelley showed potential, though. He reminded me of Cano is a strange way.
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeFan1421 View Post
    That lineup is the worst this franchise has had since stump merril was trotting out steve sax, roberto kelly and mel hall.

    At least rick rhoden wont be pitching.....
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Oh come off it most of the league would kill to have that lineup.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Anyone down for some Nick Johnson?

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