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  1. #1126

    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic View Post
    There was a proposal on ESPN a few days ago about the Rays trading Jennings/Davis/Archer + for Stanton and Morrison. The Rays would be able to pull that off pretty easily (could always add better players to the deal) if they wanted to.
    I still think they Rays would have to add more, maybe swamp Davis for Moore and take back Nolasco's contract too.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic View Post
    There was a proposal on ESPN a few days ago about the Rays trading Jennings/Davis/Archer + for Stanton and Morrison. The Rays would be able to pull that off pretty easily (could always add better players to the deal) if they wanted to.
    Despite their horrible economics and long term viability questions, right now i would pick the rays to win the east next year. Rotation is coming into its prime all at once, and i dont see a truly great team among the other four in the division. Upton is a loss, but hes not exactly roberto clemente. Any team that can probably figure james shields as its three or four is pretty damn good.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by bcom33 View Post
    The proposed Rays deal has 3 major league ready players involved though. Slade is further away, and we can't afford to give up any major league ready pitchers.
    I'm not sure that major league ready players is exactly what the Marlins would want. They'd probably benefit by having higher upside players a few years away from starting their arb clocks. A handful of young ML ready players right now isn't really going to mean much on that roster. In a few years, that might be a different story.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    we'll probably begin to see a lot more activity after the non-tender deadline... there are some interesting names being floated around out there as non-tender candidates whom i'd want the yankees to take a chance on

    some notable candidates:

    brian wilson
    nate schierholtz
    geovany soto
    mike pelfrey

    wilson would be of particular interest, as you could potentially sign him to an incentive-laden deal and get rid of the likes of eppley.... then sign joakim soria to take soriano's spot in the pen
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Looks like Pettitte and Ichiro are returning.
    Also looks like Rivera is close.

    Reports are they'll be all done by the time winter meeting start next week, which is good, will give us a good foundation and some certainty of roster and cost going into the meetings..
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    wow, didn't expect ichiro to return... our OF is going to be somewhat offensively challenged next year if true
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by flymick24 View Post
    wow, didn't expect ichiro to return... our OF is going to be somewhat offensively challenged next year if true
    Ichiro 5m+incentives. I think Ichiro will add plenty to the offense next year.
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by snapple View Post
    Ichiro 5m+incentives. I think Ichiro will add plenty to the offense next year.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/yank...re-sign-ichiro

    http://www.examiner.com/article/olne...urn-to-yankees

    Ichiro and Pettitte articles -- Pettitte deal 1 yr/10-11 mil

  9. #1134

    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Apparently the Ichiro thing is from a Japanese thing and there is "no truth" to it. per Erik Boland
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by snapple View Post
    Apparently the Ichiro thing is from a Japanese thing and there is "no truth" to it. per Erik Boland
    Sweeney Murti says they are very interested and working on it, but not done yet.
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  11. #1136

    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by snapple View Post
    Apparently the Ichiro thing is from a Japanese thing and there is "no truth" to it. per Erik Boland
    There probably is truth to it, its just that RAB used google translate and no one who can understand japanese actually read it and reported it. It says Ichiro may decide to accept a 1/5 offer within the week, not that he has accepted.

  12. #1137

    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Martin wants four year deal so I doubt the Yankees sign him.
    Please fire Cashman, so some Yankee fans can have hope again.

  13. #1138

    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962 View Post
    Martin wants four year deal so I doubt the Yankees sign him.
    He WANTS four. Doesn't mean he'll get it. I think they could do 3/27
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  14. #1139

    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by snapple View Post
    He WANTS four. Doesn't mean he'll get it. I think they could do 3/27
    Didn't the Yankees offer 3/20 last spring? Not sure his stock jumped much since then.
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Gusto View Post
    Didn't the Yankees offer 3/20 last spring? Not sure his stock jumped much since then.
    Well, as you know, he wasn't a FA on the open market last spring, and who knows what can happen when multiple teams are bidding for your services. And the fact that he woke up from his offensive coma in September isn't going to hurt him any, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freebubba View Post
    Well, as you know, he wasn't a FA on the open market last spring, and who knows what can happen when multiple teams are bidding for your services. And the fact that he woke up from his offensive coma in September isn't going to hurt him any, either.
    If the Yankees increase Martin's offer based on September, they are even more inept at handling contracts then I thought.

  18. #1143

    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Jax Teller View Post
    If the Yankees increase Martin's offer based on September, they are even more inept at handling contracts then I thought.
    I wouldn't pay him 9M for the next 3-4 years.
    Please fire Cashman, so some Yankee fans can have hope again.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by freebubba View Post
    Well, as you know, he wasn't a FA on the open market last spring, and who knows what can happen when multiple teams are bidding for your services. And the fact that he woke up from his offensive coma in September isn't going to hurt him any, either.
    We'll see which teams fight over his 5 years of decline, 5 months of sub-Cervelli numbers and one hot month. He might be lucky to get another 3/20 offer.
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    ...even though he's like the best defensive catcher in the game.
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  21. #1146

    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Gusto View Post
    We'll see which teams fight over his 5 years of decline, 5 months of sub-Cervelli numbers and one hot month. He might be lucky to get another 3/20 offer.
    I definitely wasn't suggesting the Yankees should increase their offer, but is the thought of a team throwing 3/$25-$27 at one of the elite defensive C's in the game who will probably .220 - .230 and add ~20 HR's, who is only 29, really that hard to imagine happening. Again, agents get paid for a reason and he has 3-4 teams who are alledgedly interested. I think he gets gets more than the 3/$20 offered last spring, but I am pretty sure the Yanks are not signing him to a 2/$15 deal (or something similar).

  22. #1147

    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by snapple View Post
    ...even though he's like the best defensive catcher in the game.
    Best defensive catcher, non-Molina category.
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    MLB trade rumors says we are interested in Victorino.
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  24. #1149

    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    we'll see if it's durability or just babip issues. because he's had low babip several years in his career.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs.aspx...ge=7&type=full

    a cursory look would suggest that maybe there is soemthing to the idea of him running out of steam in june-july.
    always reasonable

  25. #1150

    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Martin was a liability offesnsivley for 4 months. It's a tough situation because his defense is so great. I think the Yanks should resign him but at the right price. 4 years too much to give any non-elite catcher.

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