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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Build4Future View Post
    Would you guys welcome Melky Cabrera back
    No....
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Otani is not tall to the point you begin to worry about command issues related to size. Phil Hughes is 6'5. 6'2 to 6'4 is an ideal height for a pitcher. Betances is 6'8 and has a ................ delivery. Otani is well worth paying a 2-3 million bonus. He has been projected from a sandwich pick to a top 5 pick if he were in the draft. Just for reference he is an inch taller than Matt Cain & Felix Hernandez.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Any guesses as to our staff for 2013?
    -Lou 27 (28 in 2014)
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    granderson and nova for montero
    “I really thought I played great defense when the ball wasn't hit at me,” Alex Rodriguez said.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

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    Any guesses as to our staff for 2013?
    CC
    Kuroda-1 year contract
    Pettitte-1 year contract
    Nova
    Phelps

    Hughes is traded. Arbitration eligible. Free agency after 2013.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

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    Any guesses as to our staff for 2013?
    Kei Igawa

    That should have been a career ending decision for the person responsible for that signing.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by kan_t View Post
    In Koshien (biggest stage in Japanese high school),

    Darvish - 92 IP, 87 SO, 27 BB, 1.47 ERA
    Otani - 14.1 IP, 14 SO, 16 BB, 3.77 ERA

    SSS alert for Otani but he's not on Darvish level.
    I never understood why the Yankees didn't go after Darvish harder. It seemed like a perfect fit.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    i attribute it to dumb. like most things
    always reasonable

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    i attribute it to dumb. like most things
    The lingering cost of past mistakes.
    "Baseball is about hope, not confidence." -- rajah

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Build4Future View Post
    Would you guys welcome Melky Cabrera back
    Yes definitely. His suspension will likely make him a bargain in this free agent market. Even with a regression back to the norm he still looks to be a .300+ switch hitter in his late 20's that can play all three OF positions and who has no major weaknesses in his game. Say what you want about the PED use and the impact it may have, but looking at what a guy like Braun did this past year I wouldn't be too worried.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by primetime714 View Post
    Yes definitely. His suspension will likely make him a bargain in this free agent market. Even with a regression back to the norm he still looks to be a .300+ switch hitter in his late 20's that can play all three OF positions and who has no major weaknesses in his game. Say what you want about the PED use and the impact it may have, but looking at what a guy like Braun did this past year I wouldn't be too worried.
    Braun had 4 consistently excellent years before he was caught. Melky had 5 below average years, one very good year, and then an incredible year (during which he tested positive). While some of Melky's improvement may have been maturation, it's hard to look at his career arc and assume he is an above average player without PEDs
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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by Tifoso View Post
    Any guesses as to our staff for 2013?
    I would not be shocked if it looked like:

    Sabathia
    Pettitte
    Hughes
    Nova
    Phelps

    I don't see us actually spending big on a pitcher this offseason.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    i think Kuroda'll be back for around 12-13 mil. pettitte around 5-7. Buehrle and Reyes for arod, nova and nunez sounds plausible too : )
    Sabathia
    Kuroda
    Pettitte
    Hughes
    Buehrle

    Jeter
    Reyes
    Cano
    Teixeira
    Granderson
    Gomes/Ibanez or Pena DH
    Suzuki
    Martin
    Gardner

    Gomes/Ibanez
    Nix/Adams
    Cervelli
    Chavez/Joseph

    Rivera
    Robertson
    Chamberlain
    Montgomery
    Logan
    Rapada/Cabral
    Phelps
    “I really thought I played great defense when the ball wasn't hit at me,” Alex Rodriguez said.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by dont_ya_know24 View Post
    i think Kuroda'll be back for around 12-13 mil. pettitte around 5-7. Buehrle and Reyes for arod, nova and nunez sounds plausible too : )
    Sabathia
    Kuroda
    Pettitte
    Hughes
    Buehrle

    Jeter
    Reyes
    Cano
    Teixeira
    Granderson
    Martin
    Suzuki
    Gomes/Ibanez or Pena DH
    Gardner

    Gomes/Ibanez
    Nix/Adams
    Cervelli
    Chavez/Joseph

    Rivera
    Robertson
    Chamberlain
    Montgomery
    Logan
    Rapada/Cabral
    Phelps
    One big problem with your bench -- neither Adams or Joseph can play shortstop

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Some notes from Girardi's presser today. May provide some insight for y'all as to what to expect for the off-season.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/gira...news-and-notes

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by dpfeiffer View Post
    One big problem with your bench -- neither Adams or Joseph can play shortstop
    nix can. i guess it should be chavez/joseph/adams
    “I really thought I played great defense when the ball wasn't hit at me,” Alex Rodriguez said.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

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    nix can. i guess it should be chavez/joseph/adams
    and reyes.
    “I really thought I played great defense when the ball wasn't hit at me,” Alex Rodriguez said.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by dpfeiffer View Post
    Some notes from Girardi's presser today. May provide some insight for y'all as to what to expect for the off-season.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/gira...news-and-notes
    i see you're the writer. welcome to nyyfans : )
    “I really thought I played great defense when the ball wasn't hit at me,” Alex Rodriguez said.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    The Giants were working hard to obtain Ichiro Suzuki before the Yankees did in late July and probably would have interest in the free agent this winter. But a person close to Ichiro told me he strongly wants to stay with the Yankees because he so enjoyed playing in a professional, winning atmosphere with so many contemporaries near his age range.

    The friend said he can’t imagine money being a factor, noting that to make matters work when he wanted to be in Seattle, Ichiro deferred $5 million a year on his last long-term contract. The implication was that a one-year deal, perhaps with an option, in the $5 million-to-$8 million range might get it done.

    But the Yankees still plan to build around lefty power, which makes it more difficult to shoehorn both Ichiro and Brett Gardner onto the roster unless the Yankees plan to downgrade Gardner to more of a fourth-outfielder type. Brian Cashman said yesterday, “We haven’t had our pro scouting meetings yet, when we do we will rank the available players and we will see where [Ichiro] ranks and how it fits once everyone starts engaging the market [in trades and free agency].”
    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_...byCJw8QROJ1O/1

    The 1 year contract would fit the Yankees desire to have a $189M payroll in 2014.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Go get Justin Upton....Now.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by dont_ya_know24 View Post
    i see you're the writer. welcome to nyyfans : )
    Glad to be part of the community!

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Just wondering why no one is talking about going after David Ortiz. A 2 year deal would make a ton of sense for us.
    Mariano Rivera was so great he was able to close a Denny's.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by snapple View Post
    I agree. If you could (it wouldn't happen) dump most of the salary, it would be worth it in the long run. It's waaaay too much for what A-Rod gives us.
    And that is what essentially makes him untradeable (along with his no-trade clause, which he will not waive). The Yankees would have to pay at least 75% of his remaining salary to whatever team agrees to the trade, and that ain't gonna happen.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfallibleOne View Post
    Just wondering why no one is talking about going after David Ortiz. A 2 year deal would make a ton of sense for us.
    We can't have a everyday DH with guys like Al and Derek in our lineup.

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    Re: New York Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Outlook

    Quote Originally Posted by primetime714 View Post
    Yes definitely. His suspension will likely make him a bargain in this free agent market. Even with a regression back to the norm he still looks to be a .300+ switch hitter in his late 20's that can play all three OF positions and who has no major weaknesses in his game. Say what you want about the PED use and the impact it may have, but looking at what a guy like Braun did this past year I wouldn't be too worried.
    that is wildly optimistic. Unless he has some other elixir that can't be detected, I'd say the norm is going to be closer to what he was when he was here/ATL.

    Not sure how .267 / .328 / .379 = no major weaknesses in his game.

    Comparing Braun to Melky is a big stretch.

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