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    You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Holy consistent stream of tired cliches.

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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    didn't FOX give him a tryout that didnt last very long.

    anybody who is serious in doing it has to go to "school"
    alot of practice, tape review of themselves, getting critical pointers from someone like Marty Glickman, he taught some ex-jocks.
    very few are naturals and some can never learn how to do it i.e. Tino

    Billy Martin wasnt very good in the booth.
    I remember when the Twins hired Tom Kelly as manager in 1986, Billy stumbling on air saying it might not be a good choice;
    maybe because they didnt hire him

    watch any ex jock or ex-coach newly hired on ESPN,
    even though their agents have probably sent them to boot camp for commentators.
    you can completely tell some are just fish out of water.

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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Lou needs to tell a lot more stories about the old Yankees. Munson, Murcer, Nettles etc. Other than that he is dreadful in the booth. I almost feel sorry for him. He makes Flaherty sound good.

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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Yes! Another announcer bashing thread.
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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    He's bad, but I do think there's a chance he'll get better. He hasn't done it a lot, so I just think he needs some repetition.


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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Quote Originally Posted by CCBL BatBoy View Post
    Lou needs to tell a lot more stories about the old Yankees. Munson, Murcer, Nettles etc. Other than that he is dreadful in the booth. I almost feel sorry for him. He makes Flaherty sound good.
    Yeah, I don't know why he doesn't tell some more stories. He's played with some of the most colorful Yankee teams of all time and he rarely mentions it.

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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    At least he rarely does games. Guess who's coming back on Monday? Everyone's favorite John Flaherty.

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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    He adds nothing to the broadcast.
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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz View Post
    He adds nothing to the broadcast.
    You can almost feel his insecurity and unease, though. A couple times today, he just repeated what Paul was saying. I just don't think he knows what to say.

    I do think that's something that can come with more practice, though.


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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZYanksRule View Post
    You can almost feel his insecurity and unease, though. A couple times today, he just repeated what Paul was saying. I just don't think he knows what to say.

    I do think that's something that can come with more practice, though.
    I think it's hard for Piniella and O'Neill spending all that time together, pretending they don't hate each other.
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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    I think it's hard for Piniella and O'Neill spending all that time together, pretending they don't hate each other.
    Why would they hate each other? Is there a history with them? I know Pinella managed him in 1990..

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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Piniella
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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Quote Originally Posted by yankeesrule View Post
    Why would they hate each other? Is there a history with them? I know Pinella managed him in 1990..
    Piniella wanted O'Neill to become a pull hitter, a big homerun hitter to bat fourth, especially when Eric Davis went downhill (and then to LA). They clashed over that, and while O'Neill initially showed a spike in HR, his numbers declined the next year. Resentment between them went both ways (though I might overestimate the rancor, for my own fun).

    O'Neill was starting to look like a platoon player who had pretty well hit his limit, which was why a lot of people thought the Yankees got fleeced in the trade with the Reds. It was only when O'Neill got to NY and Showalter let him go back to being a line-drive spray hitter that O'Neill flourished again.
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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Quote Originally Posted by yankeesrule View Post
    Why would they hate each other? Is there a history with them? I know Pinella managed him in 1990..
    There is a large percentage of what happens on the air and radio that is scripted. No matter what medium. I know this because I know people in the industry who work behind the scenes (before anyone says I'm talking out of my ass, my brother is a producer of a radio show and has done it for a a few radio stations and one television station). Now I don't know how the people in charge of YES work, but my best guess is it's no different. So i'm pretty sure any tension or obvious arguments are either put in to have some drama entertainment and get people talking, or it's like any of us who rip on our friends for fun and unless you're in on it, it seems like it's an actual fight.

    I'm pretty much convinced that if there were any true issues between announcers that it would not be allowed to be vented on the air, it is not the time or place professionally to do it. So I'm left with assuming it's a bunch of friends who are messing with each other.
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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    The other day I'm watching/listening to the game... after awhile, and I mean a WHILE.. I hear a voice pop-up with a comment... and I say, "LOU ! is that you ?!! " ... I didn't even know he was on the broadcast. BUT... that's OK.. I can never dislike Loooo....
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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    I actually like Pinella esp when he is paired with Singleton. Great stories.

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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    I think the 3 man booth really hurts Piniella.

    With the 3-man, you are trying to find airtime to express your thoughts and don't have much time. In order to do it right, you need to do a good amount of games to get the chemistry down.

    YES is not using him the right way. Lou is better in a 2-man booth to give him the freedom to explain and utilize his knowledge. When FOX hired him for a full season, he was in a 2-man. Right now, he's fighting for time when Kay is turning the game into his radio show and promoting Twitter while setting up his "regular analysts."

    For that, I put the blame on Kay for not really giving him a chance.

    Now tonight, he again is the 3rd man in the booth along with Singleton and Flaherty. On the surface, this appears to be trainwreck waiting to happen. However, because Singleton is more apt to let the game breathe and Flaherty isn't looking to talk incessantly either, this may give Lou a chance to talk more and it may sound better.
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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    You know who's not very good at spelling Piniella? Me!

    When he's telling stories, he's great. The random injections are cliched and boring.

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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    Piniella wanted O'Neill to become a pull hitter, a big homerun hitter to bat fourth, especially when Eric Davis went downhill (and then to LA). They clashed over that, and while O'Neill initially showed a spike in HR, his numbers declined the next year. Resentment between them went both ways (though I might overestimate the rancor, for my own fun).

    O'Neill was starting to look like a platoon player who had pretty well hit his limit, which was why a lot of people thought the Yankees got fleeced in the trade with the Reds. It was only when O'Neill got to NY and Showalter let him go back to being a line-drive spray hitter that O'Neill flourished again.
    That and the constant fastballs thrown directly at him by the Mariners while Lou was managing

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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Lou's stories are awesome.
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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Very slow, southern drawl that is fairly difficult to understand at times....I think it's true that guys don't put the effort in. For every Phil Rizzuto comedy act, there needs to be a Bobby Murcer who actually does his homework.

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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigjf View Post
    Very slow, southern drawl that is fairly difficult to understand at times....I think it's true that guys don't put the effort in. For every Phil Rizzuto comedy act, there needs to be a Bobby Murcer who actually does his homework.
    Murcer was not a good announcer when he started, but he worked very hard at it. Even his self-effacing good-ol'-boy persona was something he worked hard at presenting well. When he started, he just came across as a dumb hick who didn't speak very well. I admired how good he became, because he did take it seriously and work to become good.
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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Quote Originally Posted by knickfan23 View Post
    I think the 3 man booth really hurts Piniella.

    With the 3-man, you are trying to find airtime to express your thoughts and don't have much time. In order to do it right, you need to do a good amount of games to get the chemistry down.

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    As soon as I saw the thread title, I was coming here to post virtually what you wrote above. I also thought he got better the more he did it but think he'd be better suited to the 2 man booth. And I love his stories.
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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Quote Originally Posted by 4trainEddie View Post
    very few are naturals and some can never learn how to do it i.e. Tino.
    I always felt so bad for Tino every time he was on air -- he just looked so uncomfortable.

    I don't mind Lou -- I just think he still belongs in a uniform, rather than behind the glass. Always wondered if he and Paulie ever reconciled--I remember Lou calling him a "crybaby" when they had that bench-clearing brawl in Seattle started by Paulie and the late John Marzano, which I think related back to the bad blood from their Reds days. But that was fifteen years ago, so I'd hope they put it behind them.

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    Re: You know who's not very good in the booth? Pinella.

    Was anyone watching the game on TBS yesterday? I doubt Piniella could be any worse than Boomer.

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