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  1. #76
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    Re: 2012 International Free Agent Thread

    Delay in Beras decision impacting the Rangers.

    http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/20...-america.html/

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    Rijo signed with the Red Sox for the same amount 625K, the Yankees signed their SS.

    Edit: The Yankees signed their SS prospect for 25K more.

    The Yankees have signed Dominican shortstop Yancarlos Baez for $650,000, according to the Dominican Prospect League.

    Baez, 16, has a projectable frame at 6-foot-2, 165 pounds with above-average speed. He's an athletic switch-hitter with good bat speed who could have an average hit tool, with gap power now. Baez is from San Cristobal and trained with Josue Mateo.
    Poor ownership can hold a baseball team down for years!

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    Re: 2012 International Free Agent Thread

    Do you have any updates on Juan Carlos Paniagua as we get closer to July 19th? Are the Cubs linked to any other IFAs?

    Ben Badler: The velocity is down, but the slider has improved. If I had to bet, I'd say he's the Cubs' priority guy now that Frandy de la Rosa has signed.

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    Jon Morosi@jonmorosi Breaking: #Rangers deal with Jairo Beras will be approved, but he will be suspended until July 1, 2013, for providing false date of birth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax Teller View Post
    Jon Morosi@jonmorosi Breaking: #Rangers deal with Jairo Beras will be approved, but he will be suspended until July 1, 2013, for providing false date of birth.
    http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...2/2613722.html

  6. #81

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    Nolan Ryan probably just did a back filp at that news. he's gonna be a stud if he pans out.

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    You could bet your sweet ass if that was the Yankees, the contract would be voided. What a load of BS. MLB needs to apply their rulings equally against every ballclub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962 View Post
    You could bet your sweet ass if that was the Yankees, the contract would be voided. What a load of BS. MLB needs to apply their rulings equally against every ballclub.
    couldn't agree more... selig is a hypocritical schill
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    does the contract count on this years or last years budget?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962 View Post
    You could bet your sweet ass if that was the Yankees, the contract would be voided. What a load of BS. MLB needs to apply their rulings equally against every ballclub.
    voided and we probably would have gotten some kind of public verbal spanking by Bud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICO7 View Post
    does the contract count on this years or last years budget?
    Last year's.
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    Poor ownership can hold a baseball team down for years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada_20 View Post
    Makes you wonder too if teams that once they are out of playoff contention will start tanking games to finish lower and get a bigger draft/IFA spending budget
    there's no chance of this happening.

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    Re: 2012 International Free Agent Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by spikeowenfan View Post
    there's no chance of this happening.
    I could see the Sox doing something like that since they are always willing to spend money, but other than them I doubt there are a lot of teams that would.

  16. #91

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962 View Post
    I am pretty happy with the Yankees' haul this year.

    "The Yankees have already signed Venezuelan catcher Luis Torrens ($1.3 million), Venezuelan outfielder Alexander Palma ($800,000) and Dominican shortstop Yancarlos Baez ($650,000), so the McCoy signing puts them at exactly $2.9 million between those four players. Unless the Yankees decide to dramatically exceed their bonus pool and pay a heavy penalty, the McCoy signing may be the last significant international amateur deal for the Yankees until July 2, 2013."

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    one thing that's great about the Yanks in IFA. they always find some gems for a little nothing(considering how much they spend and their resources)

    the big ones that we signed early are nice and will hopefully fill the system with some top end talent for the big league club in the future. but the bargain signings are important too.

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    Glad his deal feel apart.

    What did evaluators have to say about Michael Ynoa?
    Aaron Fitt: Nobody was particularly impressed with Ynoa, who stood out most for his lack of competitiveness and energy on the mound (that's never a good sign). He still has arm strength -- he ran his fastball up to 95 mph, though his comfort zone was more 90-91 mph, and it is pretty straight. He also struggles to command his fastball and his breaking ball, which sometimes has late action and tight rotation, but other times simply does not. And his changeup is very underdeveloped -- he can't even throw it for strikes, let alone get hitters out with it. It is fair to say Ynoa did nothing this summer to restore any of his fading prospect status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpbddd99 View Post
    Glad his deal feel apart.

    What did evaluators have to say about Michael Ynoa?
    Aaron Fitt: Nobody was particularly impressed with Ynoa, who stood out most for his lack of competitiveness and energy on the mound (that's never a good sign). He still has arm strength -- he ran his fastball up to 95 mph, though his comfort zone was more 90-91 mph, and it is pretty straight. He also struggles to command his fastball and his breaking ball, which sometimes has late action and tight rotation, but other times simply does not. And his changeup is very underdeveloped -- he can't even throw it for strikes, let alone get hitters out with it. It is fair to say Ynoa did nothing this summer to restore any of his fading prospect status.
    dodged a huge bullet there. but still, a talent such as he was hyped to be is someone you want to take a chance on. hindsight is 20/20 but at the time it was a big loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFortune3 View Post
    dodged a huge bullet there. but still, a talent such as he was hyped to be is someone you want to take a chance on. hindsight is 20/20 but at the time it was a big loss.

    The good news is that no one will be paying that kind of money anymore due to the new rules
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    Quote Originally Posted by ieddyi View Post
    The good news is that no one will be paying that kind of money anymore due to the new rules
    the scale changes in terms of overall compensation, but the cost will be the same.
    a big 4 mil bonus with no official cap but a 8 mil internal budget is the same cost % as 1 mil on a 2 mil budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFortune3 View Post
    the scale changes in terms of overall compensation, but the cost will be the same.
    a big 4 mil bonus with no official cap but a 8 mil internal budget is the same cost % as 1 mil on a 2 mil budget.
    The percentage cost might be the same, but if a prospect like Ynoa is getting $1M instead of $4M it's clear that things have changed.

    If the Yanks can'r use their $$$ advantage, the game has changed significantly
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    Quote Originally Posted by ieddyi View Post
    The percentage cost might be the same, but if a prospect like Ynoa is getting $1M instead of $4M it's clear that things have changed.

    If the Yanks can'r use their $$$ advantage, the game has changed significantly
    it's going to depend on if they can continue to secure relationships with trainers who have top prospects and won't be severely greedy.

    a 2.9 mil pool is good money to work from and being able to sign up to 6 for 50K or less and have it not count is big as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFortune3 View Post
    it's going to depend on if they can continue to secure relationships with trainers who have top prospects and won't be severely greedy.

    a 2.9 mil pool is good money to work from and being able to sign up to 6 for 50K or less and have it not count is big as well.
    Sure, the talent will still end up getting signed,but my point was that they'll have to accept much less ( top end talent ) and that well financed teams lose their advantage
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    Quote Originally Posted by ieddyi View Post
    Sure, the talent will still end up getting signed,but my point was that they'll have to accept much less ( top end talent ) and that well financed teams lose their advantage
    i know what you meant. i was pointing out that it will require the handlers to be a little less greedy for the system to thrive. we all know some idiot is going to try to get a 2.5 mil bonus for his player, which would screw the pot for the other potential prospects because it would lessen the money to go around and they would have to accept a lesser deal to sign(which rarely happens unless the relation between the trainer and club is really strong)

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