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    Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    The Guys with Wood send Prince Fielder and Jon Lester to the Swingers for Tommy Milone and Julio Teheran.

    Quoth the Swingers' GM, Dr. FryandLaurie, "Having stashed Julio for what seems like 8 years waiting for him to bowl over the majors, we simply got bored, and decided that now was as good a time as any to make a move. Plus, we have a natural affinity to the monarchy, and therefore decided to acquire Prince- wait, he's not? But his name . . . I guess there aren't that many African-American princes in the UK, now that we come to think about it . . ."

    Dr. Fryandlaurie then decided to drown their sorrows, muttering, 'Soupy twists . . ." after every cocktail.

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    This is...what?

    Maybe I'm not seeing this clearly, but how are those two worth those two, even taking into account unkeepability?

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    Quote Originally Posted by gdn View Post
    This is...what?

    Maybe I'm not seeing this clearly, but how are those two worth those two, even taking into account unkeepability?
    Then use the object button, that's what it's there for...

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    Quote Originally Posted by gdn View Post
    This is...what?

    Maybe I'm not seeing this clearly, but how are those two worth those two, even taking into account unkeepability?
    Is it balanced; not in my view. Does it unbalance the league; not in my view. Approved.

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    Quote Originally Posted by Big_E View Post
    Then use the object button, that's what it's there for...
    I understand that. I'm just hoping someone could explain something to me that I'm missing.

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    Quote Originally Posted by gdn View Post
    I understand that. I'm just hoping someone could explain something to me that I'm missing.
    The deal was offered to me, unprompted; although Milone and Lester have earned the same number of points to date, I'm betting that Lester will be more valuable going forward, and Fielder for Teheran is a fairly classic keeper for star swap. GwW are presumably happy to get up to 3 more years of Milone, who, in fairness, has had a pretty useful rookie campaign, and aren't as certain that Lester is healthy/likely to rebound.

    I think before the start of the year, this trade might look unbalanced in my favor; as we're now 2.5 months in, I think deal looks a lot closer, particularly given Lester's underachievement so far (and Boston looking like they might not be obvious contenders down the stretch . . .)

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    Dear Mr. Fantasy.........

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    Pretty straight forward deal..not sure what you are not seeing.

    It's no secret I have been shopping both of these guys for weeks.

    Lester although has two CG has underperformed and as I am rebuilding looking for decent pitchers as keepers..which most people are not willing to part with. I am Happy to get Milone for Lester.

    Sax offered me Teheran for Fielder couple of weeks ago.. I said no.. but my team as my team continues to go south, I got what I desired.

    Teheran is the #1 mlb prospect
    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2012/

    and a valuable pitcher. More so than Shelby Miller or Bauer because he was not drafted in the Major League Darft thus I can stash him in the minors until he is prime.

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    Quote Originally Posted by miko View Post
    Dear Mr. Fantasy.........
    ah same deal was your for Trout and Heli..or some combination..you stopped communication

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    Trout is putting up better numbers than Fielder. Hellickson is my second best starter. There is no comparison to this deal. Maybe in 3 years....just not right now.

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    Approved. Good trade given each teams position in the standings.

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    On the outside, without any in depth analysis I see no issue with this trade especially after reading Brian's comments and Ben's. At this point if someone is looking for keepers it is okay, enough time has passed to figure out if you're in it or not. Teheran is as good a rookie keeper that is left after Moore, Trout, Trumbo, and Harper are all full time players now, I didn't even need the link to know that, I think that knowledge is pretty much out there. I believe Sax got the better of the deal here, but not so much that it causes any imbalance to the league. Teheran's value was definitely maximized. And since Brian approached Ben with the offer, I see no sign of ripping anyone off.

    If it reaches my desk, obviously I will look into it in depth. But that's my "on the surface" opinion.

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    Quote Originally Posted by miko View Post
    Trout is putting up better numbers than Fielder. Hellickson is my second best starter. There is no comparison to this deal. Maybe in 3 years....just not right now.
    Never said it had to be both..that is part of the negotiations...

    But you did stop communication..

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    Quote Originally Posted by BrianNYYanks View Post
    Never said it had to be both..that is part of the negotiations...

    But you did stop communication..
    Of course I did. Those guys are the backbone of this team and still under control for 2 & 3 years. You weren't going to settle for Zimmerman. I didn't have the pieces available to get those guys. I just think that the trade is rather skewed as is which is why I vetoed. We also discussed something else and I think that could have been done in this case as well. Just expressing my opinion. I know the trade will go through and to be honest, I am very happy these guys aren't coming to the Gehrig division.

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    I see it is up to 5 objections.

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    Nope.

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    sour grapes people. You can't deny a trade just because your trade offers didn't work out or you feel like you could've came up with a better offer after the fact. Could the woodies have gotten more for a Lester/Fielder combo ? maybe ? I would have liked to seen Harrison in this deal instead of Milone...Nonetheless he got two solid keepers that he liked/wanted (he proposed the trade offer) including one of the top young pitchers in the league in Teheran (even tho hes been up and down at AAA/MLB, the kid is only 21. The Legends improve their team for a playoff push, sure. But do they become so good that they will make the league unfair ? No. Approved.

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    Quote Originally Posted by The FUTURE View Post
    You can't deny a trade just because your trade offers didn't work out or you feel like you could've came up with a better offer after the fact.
    This is a concept I wish everyone who played FBB would understand.

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    Yeah well it's on the commissioner's desk now...

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    awesome.

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    If this trade is approved, it should not go through until after rosters lock this week.

    The trade was announced on 6/15. Sportsline does not start counting 3 days on the day it was accepted. So the 16, 17 and 18th are the voting days, and it would get processed on the 19th.

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    Quote Originally Posted by Big_E View Post
    Yeah well it's on the commissioner's desk now...
    On the plus side; if Steve rejects it, I may get a chance to submit another trade proposal for Fielder...

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    Quote Originally Posted by Big_E View Post
    If this trade is approved, it should not go through until after rosters lock this week.

    The trade was announced on 6/15. Sportsline does not start counting 3 days on the day it was accepted. So the 16, 17 and 18th are the voting days, and it would get processed on the 19th.
    yes, of course.

    I will spend this evening looking at the trade and thinking about it for a day or so. It's father's day so I'm spending it with my kids if that's okay with everyone here. I am thinking about it now, I just can't do much in depth analysis.

    This is going to suck because I see both sides. I will also consult with Eric on the matter and Ben will be left out of it since he is involved.

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    I've put much serious thought into this and I will post my decision tomorrow. Just want to sleep on it and get a little input to make sure I didn't miss anything.

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    Re: Guys with Wood and Swingers exchange hostag- I mean, headliners

    If anyone who has any serious opinion on this trade one way or another please post your thoughts or PM me if you don't feel comfortable making it public. If I make a decision you don't like you have lost your right to complain if you haven't spoken up.
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