2012 Hot Stove/ Trade Rumors...

[kirbivore]

Did you write that article, and/or are you Mrs. Ryan?

Any relation to this Mrs. Ryan?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o59dS0G3_QE

[JL25and3]

Hey, cut the sarcasm - these two were the mainstays of the mid-60's to early 70's Yankee teams. Solid defense up the middle and scrappy batters.

Michael was known as the Master of the Hidden Ball Trick. That's because he didn't do much of anything else well.

[longtimeyankeefan]

Michael was known as the Master of the Hidden Ball Trick. That's because he didn't do much of anything else well.

Well, I do think he morphed into a pretty fair evaluator of talent, although from a playing perspective, your point is well taken.

[JL25and3]

Well, I do think he morphed into a pretty fair evaluator of talent, although from a playing perspective, your point is well taken.

Agreed.

[Nome]

Just a slight difference in personnel when George took over wouldn't you say. Not that Horace Clark and Stick Michael weren't excellent players in their own right(/sarcasm).

I was just responding to fvkw who was trying to make a comment that the kids are not as successful as their dad was by asking "how many have they won since he died " meaning WS, the kids, and George respectfully.

Too many youngsters hace put George on a pedistal bigger than the one erected in the new YS. George was good in that he wanted to win and he wasn't afraid to spend money, but he wasn't a "baseball man' in the truest sense of the term

Andy

[fvkw]

The Boss was a great owner who won a lot of titles! Didn't he bring in Reggie, Roger, Wade? Just saying, we will see how much we win without him, time will tell. I miss The Boss.

[YankeePride1967]

The Boss was a great owner who won a lot of titles! Didn't he bring in Reggie, Roger, Wade? Just saying, we will see how much we win without him, time will tell. I miss The Boss.

It is no coincidence that both of our World Series runs in his tenure came right after periods where he was banned from the game. Yes, his money did help but him firing managers every other week, sending players down if they had a a bad game and trading young players for 38 year old washouts just to name a few things made for juicy headlines but not a well run organizaton. I can only wonder how many more titles we would have won had he not been the 1980's version of Peter Angelos but only worse, much worse.

[RenoHightower]

August 7, 2000 - NYY claim Jose Canseco to prevent him from going to the another team (the Boston Red Sox??).

Interesting article from the NYTimes archives about this era - http://www.nytimes.com/2000/08/08/sp...ted=all&src=pm - it states that Cashman placed 48 waiver claims during the deluge of waiver filings in the 2000 season.

Just saying that there are reasons to claim a player - not always good reasons, but reasons.

At least Canseco was still hitting when the Yankees acquired him. Players like Suzuki go unclaimed all the time because nobody wants to be on the hook for that kind of money for a player like that.

[ajra21]

It is no coincidence that both of our World Series runs in his tenure came right after periods where he was banned from the game. Yes, his money did help but him firing managers every other week, sending players down if they had a a bad game and trading young players for 38 year old washouts just to name a few things made for juicy headlines but not a well run organizaton. I can only wonder how many more titles we would have won had he not been the 1980's version of Peter Angelos but only worse, much worse.

As much as the Boss did to change the culture of the Yankees, I am a firm believer that he probably cost the Yankees some titles because of his impatience and recklessness. During the 2000s alone, he made decisions that cost the franchise. The best thing that ever happened to us over the past thirty years was George being suspended.

[Bozidar]

George had the right ideas, he just didn't always execute on them well. It came from the heart, the guy wanted to win and would do anything to make that happen.

The problem was he wasn't a baseball mind, but he kept close control of baseball decisions. He was the best owner baseball has known, but at the same time also the worst.

I wouldn't change a thing, except the ARod deal..

[Jax Teller]

I'd have taken Vlad over Sheffield

[THEBOSS84]

I'd have taken Vlad over Sheffield

No doubt.

[Yankee Fan in Boston]

Jay Buhner might have been useful

[kan_t]

I'd have taken Vlad over Sheffield

No doubt. I remember 99% of us here thought the same at that time.

[GimeMoMuny]

Had the playoff structure been the same in the 80's as it is now, they may have won multiple AL pennants and possibly a WS championship (or two) during that era.

[Ram Man]

Jay Buhner might have been useful

"Well, Buhner was a good prospect, no question about it. But my baseball people love Ken Phelps' bat. They kept saying 'Ken Phelps , Ken Phelps'."

[JL25and3]

No doubt. I remember 99% of us here thought the same at that time.

I certainly did. Even without the Vlad part, just the "no Sheffield" part.

[teknetic]

That Casey McGehee trade, whew. Thank god for that.

[coachtsurfing]

if we don't get a number 2 pitcher, our season is going down the toilet like a big old number 2.

[bomber999]

Given all it has had to overcome, the team deserved some help at the deadline. I have to think Cashman could have done better than just a fringe backup IF.

[THEBOSS84]

if we don't get a number 2 pitcher, our season is going down the toilet like a big old number 2.

Kuroda is pitching like a #2, maybe even a #1.

[Jax Teller]

Given all it has had to overcome, the team deserved some help at the deadline. I have to think Cashman could have done better than just a fringe backup IF.

I'm sure that he could have. We don't know what the prices were for realistic pitchers that could have been acquired.

[jnewmark]

Given all it has had to overcome, the team deserved some help at the deadline. I have to think Cashman could have done better than just a fringe backup IF.

I'm glad somebody finally said this. It seemed like just about every team in contention got some kind of pitching help except the Yankees. Pitching, pitching, and more pitching. Once you get past CC, it's a crap shoot.

[coachtsurfing]

I'm sure that he could have. We don't know what the prices were for realistic pitchers that could have been acquired.

i agree. i didnt want to sell the farm for a rental, but i would have given up something decent to get something decent for a few years that wasn't going to break the bank.

[NerfBall55]

i agree. i didnt want to sell the farm for a rental, but i would have given up something decent to get something decent for a few years that wasn't going to break the bank.

Example?