Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

[ThePinStripes]

In 3 years Tex will be worthless offensively and ARod will be a singles hitter.

How does this make Hamilton younger?

[longtimeyankeefan]

Unfortunately, I can't vote neither, so I am not voting.

Personally, I want to see the Yankees give their youngsters a chance rather than signing free agents. This team desperately needs to replace the core four with another core - we have Robby Cano to start and I would even be willing to put Brett Gardner into the possible mix, but we need more youth to sustain us for the next decade.

[unfamous loser]

the Core Four + Bernie isn't something you can reasonably expect to replicate.

to be honest, it's not like it's a sure thing there will be quality enough, major league ready "youngsters" to give a chance to to even try to go that route, in filling the specific holes they have/will have.

[aeromac76]

In 3 years Tex will be worthless offensively and ARod will be a singles hitter.

In 3 years?
I am seeing that right now..

[NerfBall55]

i'd go with coal hamels

Has Coal ever used heroine?

[NerfBall55]

Josh Hamilton had some drinks, he didn't go back on heroine, I don't see an issue with that. The issue is more with society and AA (cult), who believe alcoholics are capable of never having a drink again, but incapable of being able to enjoy a drink here and there responsibly.

You don't see an issue because you completely don't understand the disease.

Did you see the pics of the last relapse? It's not like he has a few drinks, plays some Xbox, and falls asleep.

[Blazer]

How does this make Hamilton younger?

He'll still fill the void left by ARod & Tex.

[snapple]

Hamilton is made out of glass. I don't see how this is a question

[BennyTheJetRodriguez]

Wait....WHAT????? None of that makes sense whatsoever!!!! is this post real???

Yes. To me the relapse is his business. He didn't do heroine, he drank. One night of drinking in the last 5 years is not "off the field problems". Yes, he had "off the field problems" 5-6 years ago when he was a coke/cake fiend.

I'm not minimizing or misunderstanding addiction. I'm an alcoholic 6 months sober and have seen heroine absolutely destroy better men than me. I think many equate Josh Hamilton getting sloppy at a bar once or twice in 5 years with Josh Hamilton doing dope. It's just not the same thing.

I've also lost 5 peers/friends to motorcycle accidents before my 29th birthday, so yes, I stand by that statement as well.

[BennyTheJetRodriguez]

You don't see an issue because you completely don't understand the disease.

Did you see the pics of the last relapse? It's not like he has a few drinks, plays some Xbox, and falls asleep.

It's also not like he did smack or heroine.

[ThePinStripes]

He'll still fill the void left by ARod & Tex.

For a year or two.

[Blazer]

For a year or two.

He'll certainly decline, but I think it will be later than you think. Regardless, for 2 years (at least) he'll greatly improve the team.

Hamels isn't a lock to pitch well in the AL. His career interleague ERA is 4.21 and that's with pitchers batting in approximately half of those games.

Edit: Hamels has 7 of 19 interleague GS in AL parks.

[NerfBall55]

It's also not like he did smack or heroine.

The pics suggest he did a heroine (or two).

[False1]

The Hamels/Harper thing was dumb but so blown out of proportion. People act like its the first time in history someone was beaned without provocation.

[The FUTURE]

Well if Hamilton could hit 8 HR's every week....he'd be my choice....as much as I'd love to see Hamilton in a Yankee uniform...due to injury concerns and beliefs in pitching...the money would be better spent on Hamels.

[Hitman23]

The Hamels/Harper thing was dumb but so blown out of proportion. People act like its the first time in history someone was beaned without provocation.

Agree.

[teknetic]

It's also not like he did smack or heroine.

Huh? The dude wasn't just an alcoholic, he was also a drug addict.

[Hitman23]

Why has the debate turned into which addiction he relapsed with? There is a chance he has issues with either.

But again, this is not how we should be evaluating this question. They are both nearly elite at their positions. Which one would the Yankees benefit more from? I say pitching.

[NerfBall55]

Why has the debate turned into which addiction he relapsed with? There is a chance he has issues with either.

I'm actually more appalled that multiple adults can't spell heroin.

[montrealer]

I'm actually more appalled that multiple adults can't spell heroin.

[snapple]

I'm actually more appalled that multiple adults can't spell heroin.

But its fonetikly the same!

[sugmasterflex]

If Hamilton was about 3 years younger I would've chosen him, but its Cole Hamels.

[ThePinStripes]

[QUOTE=Blazer;7504879]He'll certainly decline, but I think it will be later than you think. Regardless, for 2 years (at least) he'll greatly improve the team.[quote]
And we'd be paying him for 6-8 years. If it was a 2 or 3 year deal, I'd be on board

Hamels isn't a lock to pitch well in the AL. His career interleague ERA is 4.21 and that's with pitchers batting in approximately half of those games.

Edit: Hamels has 7 of 19 interleague GS in AL parks.

1. Talk about SSS. It's 117 innings across his career.
Since it's only 117 IP across his career, his rookie year and year after are a big part of those numbers.


His ERA is inflated because of his numbers in his rookie year and the year after. He's been fine in inter-league after that, especially since he's been facing a lot of of the AL East (about 70 of 117 IP)
2006: 8.04 ERA
2007: 5.54 ERA
2008: 3.86 ERA
2009: 3.65ERA
2010: 3.60ERA
2011: 1.96ERA

I'm not concerned about him making the NL/AL transition.

[Hitman23]

I'm actually more appalled that multiple adults can't spell heroin.

hahaha

[jcarey]

No, not really. It's not like relapsing is a crime.

So...in what context do you see heroin addicts through your work such that you can comment onthe drug's effects?