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  • Cole Hamels

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  1. #51
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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by Blazer View Post
    In 3 years Tex will be worthless offensively and ARod will be a singles hitter.
    How does this make Hamilton younger?
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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Unfortunately, I can't vote neither, so I am not voting.

    Personally, I want to see the Yankees give their youngsters a chance rather than signing free agents. This team desperately needs to replace the core four with another core - we have Robby Cano to start and I would even be willing to put Brett Gardner into the possible mix, but we need more youth to sustain us for the next decade.
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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    the Core Four + Bernie isn't something you can reasonably expect to replicate.

    to be honest, it's not like it's a sure thing there will be quality enough, major league ready "youngsters" to give a chance to to even try to go that route, in filling the specific holes they have/will have.

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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by Blazer View Post
    In 3 years Tex will be worthless offensively and ARod will be a singles hitter.

    In 3 years?
    I am seeing that right now..
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  5. #55

    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    i'd go with coal hamels
    Has Coal ever used heroine?
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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by StaleMilk View Post
    Josh Hamilton had some drinks, he didn't go back on heroine, I don't see an issue with that. The issue is more with society and AA (cult), who believe alcoholics are capable of never having a drink again, but incapable of being able to enjoy a drink here and there responsibly.
    You don't see an issue because you completely don't understand the disease.

    Did you see the pics of the last relapse? It's not like he has a few drinks, plays some Xbox, and falls asleep.
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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePinStripes View Post
    How does this make Hamilton younger?
    He'll still fill the void left by ARod & Tex.
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  8. #58

    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Hamilton is made out of glass. I don't see how this is a question

  9. #59

    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by Yanksfanintoronto View Post
    Wait....WHAT????? None of that makes sense whatsoever!!!! is this post real???
    Yes. To me the relapse is his business. He didn't do heroine, he drank. One night of drinking in the last 5 years is not "off the field problems". Yes, he had "off the field problems" 5-6 years ago when he was a coke/cake fiend.

    I'm not minimizing or misunderstanding addiction. I'm an alcoholic 6 months sober and have seen heroine absolutely destroy better men than me. I think many equate Josh Hamilton getting sloppy at a bar once or twice in 5 years with Josh Hamilton doing dope. It's just not the same thing.

    I've also lost 5 peers/friends to motorcycle accidents before my 29th birthday, so yes, I stand by that statement as well.

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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by NerfBall55 View Post
    You don't see an issue because you completely don't understand the disease.

    Did you see the pics of the last relapse? It's not like he has a few drinks, plays some Xbox, and falls asleep.
    It's also not like he did smack or heroine.

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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by Blazer View Post
    He'll still fill the void left by ARod & Tex.
    For a year or two.
    A fool and his money can throw one heck of a party!

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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePinStripes View Post
    For a year or two.
    He'll certainly decline, but I think it will be later than you think. Regardless, for 2 years (at least) he'll greatly improve the team.

    Hamels isn't a lock to pitch well in the AL. His career interleague ERA is 4.21 and that's with pitchers batting in approximately half of those games.

    Edit: Hamels has 7 of 19 interleague GS in AL parks.
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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by BennyTheJetRodriguez View Post
    It's also not like he did smack or heroine.
    The pics suggest he did a heroine (or two).
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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    The Hamels/Harper thing was dumb but so blown out of proportion. People act like its the first time in history someone was beaned without provocation.

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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Well if Hamilton could hit 8 HR's every week....he'd be my choice....as much as I'd love to see Hamilton in a Yankee uniform...due to injury concerns and beliefs in pitching...the money would be better spent on Hamels.
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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by False1 View Post
    The Hamels/Harper thing was dumb but so blown out of proportion. People act like its the first time in history someone was beaned without provocation.
    Agree.
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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by BennyTheJetRodriguez View Post
    It's also not like he did smack or heroine.
    Huh? The dude wasn't just an alcoholic, he was also a drug addict.

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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Why has the debate turned into which addiction he relapsed with? There is a chance he has issues with either.

    But again, this is not how we should be evaluating this question. They are both nearly elite at their positions. Which one would the Yankees benefit more from? I say pitching.
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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman23 View Post
    Why has the debate turned into which addiction he relapsed with? There is a chance he has issues with either.
    I'm actually more appalled that multiple adults can't spell heroin.
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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by NerfBall55 View Post
    I'm actually more appalled that multiple adults can't spell heroin.

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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by NerfBall55 View Post
    I'm actually more appalled that multiple adults can't spell heroin.
    But its fonetikly the same!

  22. #72

    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    If Hamilton was about 3 years younger I would've chosen him, but its Cole Hamels.
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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    [QUOTE=Blazer;7504879]He'll certainly decline, but I think it will be later than you think. Regardless, for 2 years (at least) he'll greatly improve the team.[quote]
    And we'd be paying him for 6-8 years. If it was a 2 or 3 year deal, I'd be on board


    Hamels isn't a lock to pitch well in the AL. His career interleague ERA is 4.21 and that's with pitchers batting in approximately half of those games.

    Edit: Hamels has 7 of 19 interleague GS in AL parks.
    1. Talk about SSS. It's 117 innings across his career.
    Since it's only 117 IP across his career, his rookie year and year after are a big part of those numbers.


    His ERA is inflated because of his numbers in his rookie year and the year after. He's been fine in inter-league after that, especially since he's been facing a lot of of the AL East (about 70 of 117 IP)
    2006: 8.04 ERA
    2007: 5.54 ERA
    2008: 3.86 ERA
    2009: 3.65ERA
    2010: 3.60ERA
    2011: 1.96ERA

    I'm not concerned about him making the NL/AL transition.
    A fool and his money can throw one heck of a party!

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    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by NerfBall55 View Post
    I'm actually more appalled that multiple adults can't spell heroin.
    hahaha
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  25. #75

    Re: Choose one: Josh Hamilton or Cole Hamels

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePinStripes View Post
    No, not really. It's not like relapsing is a crime.
    So...in what context do you see heroin addicts through your work such that you can comment onthe drug's effects?


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