May 2012 Minor League Thread

[StaleMilk]

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Good stuff. Fact he isn't walking anyone is very good.

[Donnybaseball72]

They are still babying him like Phil Hughes was IMO.

[Yankees1962]

They are still babying him like Phil Hughes was IMO.

What you want them to do, let him throw 100 pitches today?

[awy]

sanchez back in all his glory. first homerun of the season.

beast mode on

[Snatch Catch]

Banuelos pitched well again today. He threw 5 innings with 1 run, 4 hits, 0 BB and 3 SO. Next time out, I expect he'll be up to 90 pitches.

And then contract leprosy.

[Donnybaseball72]

What you want them to do, let him throw 100 pitches today?

Yes. He's not coming back from surgery is he?

[Yankees1962]

Yes. He's not coming back from surgery is he?

What I thought, thankfully, it's not your call. If he's not throwing 95-100 pitches by the end of this month then they're babying him.

[StaleMilk]

Yes. He's not coming back from surgery is he?

They baby everyone. It's not surprising why we've had such a difficult time devloping pitchers after focusing on drafting pitchers the last 7 years.

[Posada_20]

They are letting him build up arm strength each time out since he has missed time. Next time he will go up to 90 pitches. Nothing wrong with that.

[Posada_20]

Nice to see Sanchez finally go deep. Left the game after taking a fould ball off his hand. Hopefully he's OK.

[mhmajp]

They are letting him build up arm strength each time out since he has missed time. Next time he will go up to 90 pitches. Nothing wrong with that.

Agreed. This isn't babying, it's just biology. Especially given the cold weather. That said, I'd like them to build their pitchers up to between 100 and 130 pitches so they get a little better at going into the 7th and 8th innings and at working out of trouble in late innings. Also, if they get backed down to between 95 and 120 pitchers in MLB games, they'll be better able to maintain velocity, command and control deep in to those games.

[Yankees1962]

Agreed. This isn't babying, it's just biology. Especially given the cold weather. That said, I'd like them to build their pitchers up to between 100 and 130 pitches so they get a little better at going into the 7th and 8th innings and at working out of trouble in late innings. Also, if they get backed down to between 95 and 120 pitchers in MLB games, they'll be better able to maintain velocity, command and control deep in to those games.

Which team is allowing their young starters to go 130 pitches on a regular basis in the minor leagues? Texas with Nolan Ryan, have talked about it, but I haven't seen many young pitchers throw excess of 100 pitches on a regular basis. By the way, I'm all for allowing our starters in AAA and AA go 100-120 pitches every now and then.

As to Banuelos, let's remember he just turned 21 so building up his pitches is the prudent thing to do with him in early May.

[tranquility]

I am disheartened by the news that elbow inflammation has sent Jose Campos to the disabled list:

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2012/05/0...-inflammation/

The three Yankees this Seattle fan cares the most about -- Mariano Rivera, Michael Pineda and Jose Campos -- have gone down with injuries.

As a sidenote, an interesting historical look at trade negotiations between the Yankees and the Mariners:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ero_trade.html

[TheHugeUnit2]

Dellin 8 IP 2H 1R 2BB 7Ks 97 pitches

[philleotardo]

Dellin 8 IP 2H 1R 2BB 7Ks 97 pitches

Not that I think you would lie, but I'm going over to milb just to make sure.

Edit: Wow, that's a great outing for him.

[Blazer]

And then contract leprosy.

At least it ain't herpes.

[just-blaze]

Dellin 8 IP 2H 1R 2BB 7Ks 97 pitches

DO MORE OF THAT DELLIN!!!! Then again your comp (Cabrera) had no hit the Yankees thru 8 before.

[jcarey]

DO MORE OF THAT DELLIN!!!! Then again your comp (Cabrera) had no hit the Yankees thru 8 before.

Does he simply lack the control or does he try to be too fine?

[NYCrusader]

Other then Dellin and Cabrera being extremely tall I don't think the comparison sticks.

Cabrera was much wilder if you can imagine that and at the same age threw much harder then Dellin does.(fangraphs)

Hopefully Dellin builds off of this start.

[Shadoux101]

Does he simply lack the control or does he try to be too fine?

He just loses control. He is amazingly overpowering and misses spots by a lot often. Really, he seems to have such power, movement and deception he could almost throw the ball down the middle.

School of thought is that he is just one of those taller "randy johnson" type pitchers who have so many moving parts. He might just follow that type of path and develop later due to tuning and repeating his mechanics.

The other thought is that he will project to be a good bullpen guy due to lack of control.

NIce to see him show signs of improvement.

[just-blaze]

Other then Dellin and Cabrera being extremely tall I don't think the comparison sticks.

Cabrera was much wilder if you can imagine that and at the same age threw much harder then Dellin does.(fangraphs)

Hopefully Dellin builds off of this start.

Technically, at age 23 Cabrera was throwing 92.1 and Betances was throwing 93.3, but it's such a small sample size, we can't really make a judgement.

The comp is hard throwing 6'9 righties with control and command problems but high K rates.

Cabrera had a 5.1 BB/9, Dellin currently has a 4.6. Cabrera had a K rate of 8.9 vs. Dellin's of 10.1. But again sample size might be an issue. By age 23 Cabrera had 250 innings in the minors vs. Dellin's 430. IMO, Cabrera didn't get enough time in the minors, whereas we are giving Dellin plenty of time which will make a big difference.

[just-blaze]

Does he simply lack the control or does he try to be too fine?

Has to be mechanics, IMO.

[mhmajp]

Which team is allowing their young starters to go 130 pitches on a regular basis in the minor leagues? Texas with Nolan Ryan, have talked about it, but I haven't seen many young pitchers throw excess of 100 pitches on a regular basis. By the way, I'm all for allowing our starters in AAA and AA go 100-120 pitches every now and then.

As to Banuelos, let's remember he just turned 21 so building up his pitches is the prudent thing to do with him in early May.

No one. I agree. And as I said, I agree about building him up coming off the injury and early in the year with questionable weather.

I'd like to see all of baseball just pushing these kids a little more in AA and AAA. Game, situation, usage and injury history depending, obviously, anywhere between 100 and 130 pitches when healthy and stretched out.

[philleotardo]

Gumbs is 2-2 tonight, 7 for his last 11, 6 steals.

[philleotardo]

Gumbs is 2-2 tonight, 7 for his last 11, 6 steals.

Now 3-3, 4 SB tonight