+ Reply to Thread
Page 16 of 18 FirstFirst ... 6 13 14 15 16 17 18 LastLast
Results 376 to 400 of 427
  1. #376

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84 View Post
    Tell him I said hello. I'll send a replacement.
    lookin for a job
    like delv, but better

  2. #377
    NYYF Legend

    ymike673's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Brooklyn,NY

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by newyorkyankees6 View Post
    So it's pretty much guaranteed he's not coming back?
    Alot depends on Mo. If he decides to retire the Yankees might make Soriano an offer.

  3. #378
    NYYF Legend

    Yankee Tripper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Left coast

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ymike673 View Post
    Alot depends on Mo. If he decides to retire the Yankees might make Soriano an offer.
    That's part of it. Buit I think it depends more on the market, if there is a team willing to throw 4 years his way he's gone. If not the Yanks would probably give him the most money on a 2 or 3 year deal. Not sure if that is wise on the part of the Yanks or not but it is probably true.

    As I've said, I'd prefer they don't allocate that kind of coin to a closer if they are serious about the $189M payroll for 2014 as I think the money could be better spent elswhere in the future. If they are operating on an unlimited budget (which they are not) by all means bid him up.
    Baseball is life;
    the rest is just details.

  4. #379
    Yankee Fan in Gator Nation Pasco08's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Gator Nation

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    Does Sori really think he is gonna get more then 14million from another team?
    Don't tell me this fool is that stupid.

  5. #380
    NYYF Legend

    ymike673's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Brooklyn,NY

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Pasco08 View Post
    Does Sori really think he is gonna get more then 14million from another team?
    Don't tell me this fool is that stupid.
    The Yankees will make Soriano a qualifying offer so they can get a draft pick if he signs with another team. If Rafael accepts the Yankees offer he ends up making about $800,000 more than if he did not opt out. So opting out makes sense.

  6. #381
    NYYF Cy Young


    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    New York City

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    But he still wants a multi year deal, which will get him more money overall.

  7. #382

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    He did a very good job for the Yankees but, unless he makes the unlikely decision to come back for only one year, the Yankees should let him go. If they're serious about $189M, then avoiding a $15M payout to a closer is a key part of that equation.
    "Baseball is about hope, not confidence." -- rajah

  8. #383
    NYYF Legend

    35Knucklecurve's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Maryland branches, Pennsylvania roots

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/01/sp...tml?ref=sports
    [snip]
    As expected, Soriano, 32, opted out of his contract Wednesday, and will seek more compensation in free agency. Scott Boras, Soriano’s agent, has made it clear that Soriano deserves a lucrative long-term deal. “I’m not surprised Sori did this,” the Yankees’ president, Randy Levine, said. “Scott Boras told the player that he could get a four-year deal for $60 million, so I would understand why he would opt out. ”

    Boras denied that he made promises to Soriano, but he did note that it was an obvious decision to opt out. He said he would continue to negotiate with the Yankees, and was not overly concerned about the Yankees desire to limit payroll by 2014.

    “The Yankees have always been about getting the best players and having great depth,” he said. “The initial decision to sign Soriano is one of the main reasons they won the A.L. East in 2012 and decisions like that are what made the Yankees a goliath. Once they stop making decisions like that, the Yankee brand changes.”

    The Yankees are expected to make a qualifying offer to Soriano for the predetermined amount of $13.3 million by Friday at 5 p.m. Soriano automatically gets $1.5 million for opting out of his contract (instead of a $14 million salary for 2013). If he accepts the offer, he will make $14.8 million in 2013.

    If he rejects the offer and seeks free agency, the Yankees will get a first-round draft pick from the team that signs him (unless it is a top-10 pick and then they would get the team’s next pick).

    The Yankees are also waiting to find out what Rivera will do. They expect Rivera, who will be 43 next year, to return, but Rivera told General Manager Brian Cashman he was not certain.
    Boras seems to be taking a swipe at the organization here - saying that if Soriano walks and they have to resort to "second best" to replacee him, then that implies that the FO no longer has winning as priority 1. Thoughts on that?
    September 28, 2008 - the day the HOF got a wake-up Moose call.

  9. #384

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    when do we know if he stays or signs elsewhere?

  10. #385
    Please, call me YFiB Yankee Fan in Boston's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Too Close to Fenway

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 35Knucklecurve View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/01/sp...tml?ref=sports

    Boras seems to be taking a swipe at the organization here - saying that if Soriano walks and they have to resort to "second best" to replacee him, then that implies that the FO no longer has winning as priority 1. Thoughts on that?
    Eh, that's what Boras does. He doesn't anything he can to try and create a market for his player, regardless of how lame. Much ado about nothing
    "Welcome to NYYFans, the place where Yankees fans come together to complain about the manner in which our team is winning games" -- Mr. Coffee

  11. #386

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    I know Boras is a smart guy, but Robertson is the better pitcher.
    EvilEmpireDC: Fans bitch about anything lol

  12. #387
    NYYF MVP


    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Down the road

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by snapple View Post
    I know Boras is a smart guy, but Robertson is the better pitcher.
    But Robertson isn't a "Proven Closer™" That proven closer just makes managers and GM's tight in the jeans.

  13. #388

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    not sure if GMs do it. if they do, all the more reason to not play the game for soriano as you'll be bidding against erroneously high bids.
    always reasonable

  14. #389
    NYYF MVP


    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Down the road

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    not sure if GMs do it. if they do, all the more reason to not play the game for soriano as you'll be bidding against erroneously high bids.
    Name a good team outside of the Rays and maybe White Sox who haven't invested heavily at the closer position over the last couple seasons.

    It's like the the warm blanky when they go to bed.

  15. #390

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    the dumbass phillies sure looked smart with that decision.

    generally as teams get smarter they'll invest less in closers.
    always reasonable

  16. #391
    NYYF MVP


    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Down the road

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    the dumbass phillies sure looked smart with that decision.

    generally as teams get smarter they'll invest less in closers.
    I would love nothing more then to see more teams act like the Rays and just treart the closer position as just another bullpen arm that throws 60-70 innings a season.

    But I just don't see it happening anytime soon.

  17. #392

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    I don't know if I'd count the Yankees. Mo is freakin' legendary.
    EvilEmpireDC: Fans bitch about anything lol

  18. #393

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    mo is in fact supralegendary
    always reasonable

  19. #394
    Tends to be difficult JL25and3's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    mo is in fact supralegendary
    Actually, Mo is entirely real.
    A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.
    - Barry Manilow

  20. #395

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    mo is god
    always reasonable

  21. #396
    NYYF Legend

    flymick24's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    What's it to you?

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by snapple View Post
    I know Boras is a smart guy, but Robertson is the better pitcher.
    not until robertson hires boras to be his agent
    help feed the hungry:

    www.thehungersite.com

  22. #397

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by flymick24 View Post
    not until robertson hires boras to be his agent
    add the one...carry the four...

    damn, you got me.
    EvilEmpireDC: Fans bitch about anything lol

  23. #398
    NYYF Legend

    ymike673's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Brooklyn,NY

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ZIM 2002 View Post
    But he still wants a multi year deal, which will get him more money overall.
    The only reason Rafael signed with the Yankees in the first place was he could not get a large multi-year contract to be a closer. Now he is two years older. Just because Rafael wants a multi year deal does not mean someone will give it to him.

  24. #399
    Addicted Member
    Bugg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Brooklyn

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    Plausible Yanks would rather try Aardsma or Robertson or Phelps or some combination or others if Soriano won't sign a fiscally sensilbe contract. A 4 year deal for a closer is not going to happen. Boras is going to be begging Hank and Hal to get the option back. Perhaps the newly-flush Dodgers write a big check, but nor for 4 years.
    pitching, pitching and pitching

  25. #400
    Don't call it a comeback False1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Arizona

    Re: 2012 Rafael Soriano Performance Thread

    Tigers are my guess. He's going to get paid.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts