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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    With the Rangers offense, not even Yu Darvish can pitch them out of the game.
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    seems to have settled down. a lot of 'lined out' though so idk
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by CalYankeeFan View Post
    With the Rangers offense, not even Yu Darvish can pitch them out of the game.
    He should buy something nice for Noesi for getting him off the hook
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    He looked shaky. Lets see how he is next start.

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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    Looks like he'll have trouble with patient teams- a lot of the M's were getting themselves out. He settled down, but got lucky w/ a lot of atem balls

    Didn't see too many curves- his repertoire seemed run of the mill, though he did have good velocity
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by ieddyi View Post
    Looks like he'll have trouble with patient teams- a lot of the M's were getting themselves out. He settled down, but got lucky w/ a lot of atem balls

    Didn't see too many curves- his repertoire seemed run of the mill, though he did have good velocity
    This is exactly what I thought the whole time I watched him. Those Japanese hitters must swing at everything thrown at them.

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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    110 pitches in that outing.
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    His last innings were much more impressive given how many pitches he'd already thrown. That said, I did have a little smile of my face when I saw the first inning. Fully expecting whim to turn it around after one bad start. Still glad we didn't sign him to that contract.
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    bad 1st outing but he'll get it under control, unless he's Kei Igawa version 2.0
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoVaughnEatsAlot View Post
    This is exactly what I thought the whole time I watched him. Those Japanese hitters must swing at everything thrown at them.
    You'd give him credit if it was the quality of pitches causing the bad swings, but it jus looked like the M's were hacking at everything- pitches that had little movement, and obviously out of the zone
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    From the highlights I saw it looked like he was over throwing in the first inning. He was missing up. It seemed like he settled down after that, although I'm basing it largely on his pitch count by inning after the 1st.
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by ieddyi View Post
    Looks like he'll have trouble with patient teams- a lot of the M's were getting themselves out. He settled down, but got lucky w/ a lot of atem balls

    Didn't see too many curves- his repertoire seemed run of the mill, though he did have good velocity
    I think it's early to say that. He's a young guy, and he certainly can learn from this experience and grow. But that's part of the risk of the contract -- they're paying for an ace (and replaced Wilson) with a guy who is making a big transition.
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    The guy had to be nervous and he didn't get a chance to settle in - it was "Welcome to MLB, Kid" from the first pitch.

    Buster Olney provided some interesting insight into what went on before the Rangers decided to empty the bank on him. They met with the Red Sox and went over everything that they did with Dice-K, hoping to prevent the same mistakes. He said that one thing that Darvish has going for him that Dice-K apparently didn't is that he seems to fit in well already. He will sit in on conversations teammates are having and randomly repeat a word he has heard to make sure he understands. While this really doesn't have much to do with pitching, it provides a comfort level, which certainly couldn't hurt. I think that contributed to Ichiro's success - not that he wasn't a phenominal player to begin with, of course.

    Another point Olney made that I hadn't thought about, with regard to other differences between baseball in Japan and the US is that the longest road trip in Japan is probably about 40 minutes. Players who've been making 4 hour plane rides for years never really get used to it. Bottom line - there's more than pure talent needed to make the transition and really live up to the hype. We'll see just how good Nolan Ryan is at looking a the whole package.
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    Wasn't nearly as terrible today, but he walked four. Velocity also seemed a bit down.

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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic View Post
    Wasn't nearly as terrible today, but he walked four. Velocity also seemed a bit down.
    13 baserunners allowed in 5.2 IP.

    So far he's allowed 25 baeserunners in his first 11.1 IP.

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    adventurous
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    An aspect that is not mentioned much about Darvish that he would have to overcome is his immense ego / pride he has as being an elite pitcher.
    He's so used to simply blowing his pitches by the batter so fine control is something he hasn't really had to worry about, plus his usual big mouth twitter and blog isn't exactly the most helpful thing he can have.
    If he learns to adapt and accept the reality it may become better, but so far in his brief career he's only done stuff that has backfired on him.

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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    The camera angle was really weird. It appeared to be straight on, but elevated a lot higher than the usual pitcher/batter shot. It was really hard to pick out the movement on his pitches due to the weird angle. It gave almost no clue as to the up and down movement of his pitches

    Was interesting that they changed the start of his delivery- took away the over the head move and the delay that it seems like almost all Japanese pitchers have

    Though a better outing, he's not showing ace stuff and I still think a patient team like the Yanks or sawx will give him fits
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by ieddyi View Post
    Though a better outing, he's not showing ace stuff and I still think a patient team like the Yanks or sawx will give him fits
    I'm not sure if you even can say it was better than before.
    His first outing against the Mariners, he settled down after the big inning and actually ended on a high note, where against the Twins he was messy through out the whole game, and came out with the bases loaded where the reliever actually did the cleanup for him.

    On a random note, Darvish's next two opponents are scheduled to be the Tigers and the Yankees.

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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    Only 2 starts, but I fail to see a difference b/t him and DiceK thus far.
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by just-blaze View Post
    Only 2 starts, but I fail to see a difference b/t him and DiceK thus far.
    Statistically in Japan Darvish was the superior pitcher by a good margin.

    First year with the Red Sox Matsuzakas average fastball was 91.9

    Darvish so far this year 93.2 topping out at 96

    Just going strictly on fastball velocity the stuff is superior.

    Also body type Darvish is 6'5" 215 while Matsuzka is 5'11" 185

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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCrusader View Post
    Statistically in Japan Darvish was the superior pitcher by a good margin.

    First year with the Red Sox Matsuzakas average fastball was 91.9

    Darvish so far this year 93.2 topping out at 96

    Just going strictly on fastball velocity the stuff is superior.

    Also body type Darvish is 6'5" 215 while Matsuzka is 5'11" 185
    Taller pitchers usually have problems repeating their mechanics, so when you add in everything else, it may take awhile to know how good he really is. However, so far, I don't see anything that really jumps off the screen, unlike the first time I saw Strausburg. You knew you were watching someone who lived up to the hype. Ironically, Dice K's body type has historically been in that range for some of the most successful pitchers in MLB - 6' 0" to 6'2", 170-200 lbs.
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    In Japan, I believe most hitters are simply trying to slap the ball about. He's probably just not used to seeing guys take a lot of pitches. This is a very simplistic assessment.
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by ajra21 View Post
    In Japan, I believe most hitters are simply trying to slap the ball about. He's probably just not used to seeing guys take a lot of pitches. This is a very simplistic assessment.
    Simplistic. But accurate.
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    Re: The Yu Darvish thread.

    Gotta give him credit, he dominated last night. Great selection of pitches
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