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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_lou_14 View Post
    No, at that rate they will clinch the wild card. Six games left, magic number is three.
    It would help if the Rays lost a game. They have now won 8 in a row. And anyway the Yankees need to be the #1 WC to get the home game if they lose the Division. What's the magic number to clinch the #1 WC position?

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by just-blaze View Post
    Im not either, but when I hear former pitchers/announcers consistantly say he doesn't throw his fastball enough, it tends to stick with me. Especially when he threw his fastball more last year to better results.
    Question - given that most pitches are called from the bench these days, is this issue Nova's fault or the bench's fault?
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ymike673 View Post
    It would help if the Rays lost a game. They have now won 8 in a row. And anyway the Yankees need to be the #1 WC to get the home game if they lose the Division. What's the magic number to clinch the #1 WC position?
    I don't care about the #1 WC position, only the AL East title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HerbieLee20 View Post
    Just opinions

    I see what you're saying. JMO, Girardi putting him into a position in which he's not conditioned for, is different than putting him into a position in which he should at least be qualified for, though -- pitching to a small number of batters in any given game.

    He's a major leaguer, on the NYYs, thus should be able to get through 6 batters, no matter from which side they hit. Even though he's better at getting one type of hitter out, doesn't mean he should have an excuse (Manager's fault) when he can't do the job of a Major League pitcher when facing somebody because they're hitting from the other side.

    (Still pizzed @ Logan Missed Nova's crapfest tonight -- couldn't listen @ work.)
    That doesn't make sense. If you have guys on the team specifically because of their adroitness against same-handed batters, and then you use them against opposite-handed batters, and they fail, that's on you. Being a major league pitcher doesn't and shouldn't mean that you should be able to always get 6 batters out in a row. Sometimes the manager actually has to do some managing.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by longtimeyankeefan View Post
    Question - given that most pitches are called from the bench these days, is this issue Nova's fault or the bench's fault?
    Seriously? I'd suspect that outside of pitchouts and possibkly throws to 1st that close to 100% of all pitches are called by the catcher with teh pitcher being able to shake him off when ever he wants.
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RenoHightower View Post
    That doesn't make sense. If you have guys on the team specifically because of their adroitness against same-handed batters, and then you use them against opposite-handed batters, and they fail, that's on you. Being a major league pitcher doesn't and shouldn't mean that you should be able to always get 6 batters out in a row. Sometimes the manager actually has to do some managing.
    Agreed, but you can reasonably argue that Logan isn't really a LH specialist, has. Even terrible lately, and he had Rapada available who is more adroit against LH hitters.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
    Seriously? I'd suspect that outside of pitchouts and possibkly throws to 1st that close to 100% of all pitches are called by the catcher with teh pitcher being able to shake him off when ever he wants.
    While a pitcher like Sabathia and Pettitte might well control their own pitch selection, it is well known that young pitchers do not have the same latitude in pitch selection.

    According to Fangraph, the percent of FB that Nova has thrown this year is down 7 percent from last year and 10 percent from 2010. More interesting is that his dependence on the slider has gone up significantly, while his use of the changeup has almost disappeared.

    Regardless of who is calling the pitches (bench or catcher), the mixture of his pitches this year is materially different than prior years.
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
    Seriously? I'd suspect that outside of pitchouts and possibkly throws to 1st that close to 100% of all pitches are called by the catcher with teh pitcher being able to shake him off when ever he wants.
    BTW - I stand corrected on this matter, at least as it applies to the Yankees. Here is a link to a NYTimes article regarding Girardi telling Martin he can call a better game.

    http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/0...age-to-martin/
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    Quote Originally Posted by ymike673 View Post
    It would help if the Rays lost a game. They have now won 8 in a row. And anyway the Yankees need to be the #1 WC to get the home game if they lose the Division. What's the magic number to clinch the #1 WC position?
    Actually this 8 game winning streak was the best thing to happen to the Yankees, and I hope they win a few more this weekend prior to ending the season with Baltimore. I want Baltimore to be within catching distance when that series starts, this way I know Tampa will go all-out in those games.
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ymike673 View Post
    It would help if the Rays lost a game. They have now won 8 in a row. And anyway the Yankees need to be the #1 WC to get the home game if they lose the Division. What's the magic number to clinch the #1 WC position?
    5.

    And I agree, the more the Rays win, the better. Make sure the final weekend is a slugfest.

    EDIT: Although right now Rays wins are Chicago losses. But I think I've given up on wishing for Detroit to miss the playoffs at this point.
    Last edited by sweet_lou_14; 09-28-12 at 05:20 PM.
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    dem tigers will meet texas in the alcs

    btw, shin soo choo as offseason trade? his quality of life would drastically increase in nyc
    always reasonable

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    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    dem tigers will meet texas in the alcs

    btw, shin soo choo as offseason trade? his quality of life would drastically increase in nyc
    Most of us aren't ready to write 2012 obituaries and speculate on offseason trades.
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    I want the Rays to beat the Orioles but not make the playoffs. They have Price set to pitch the WC playoff game and that's not someone I would want the Yankees to face in the WC playoff game if the Yankees do not win the division.

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    you'd rather face the angels?
    always reasonable

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    Quote Originally Posted by ymike673 View Post
    I want the Rays to beat the Orioles but not make the playoffs. They have Price set to pitch the WC playoff game and that's not someone I would want the Yankees to face in the WC playoff game if the Yankees do not win the division.
    I'd love to know how you think the Yankees will fail to win the division while the Rays are beating the Orioles enough times to earn a wild card spot.

    Seriously, take a moment to do the math and you'll feel a lot better. Or, at least, you'll feel pessimistic about the right things.
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Piss poor effort today. Getting shutdown 8 scoreless by a parade of scrubs. Failing to put this game away early against Romero when they had him on the ropes. Girardi continuing to play Jones who of course K'd in a huge spot early in the game.

    I mean you cannot be losing 2 of 3 to this AAA Jays team when the games mean so much. Even if we win tommorrow, a split is just not good enough. Should be at worst taking 3 of 4 against a team like that. Wasted opportunities.

    Dont expect any help from Boston tonight.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    worst game they've played this year.. wait a second. no it's not..

    this team is hard to watch..
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    I agree with everything in the last post by dabomb, except the word "effort" in the first line. I am not in position to judge the effort. But the result was indeed "piss poor."

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Watching the Yankees trying to hit with RISP in 2012, is easily one of the most frustrating things I have ever seen. I just thought that they would be more consistent in those situations and with the season coming to an end, it will be one of the main reasons why I believe that the Yankees will not be successful in the post season.
    Last edited by 2JAY; 09-29-12 at 04:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajah View Post
    I agree with everything in the last post by dabomb, except the word "effort" in the first line. I am not in position to judge the effort. But the result was indeed "piss poor."
    the only person in which i would question effort is girardi. it's really hard to defend his decisions at this point.
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    Maybe Girardi will bat Jones leadoff tomorrow so he has even more chances to look bad striking out and smile as he walks back the dugout, stranding baserunners as he has done this whole second half.

    If the Yankees in general hit even a little better in bases loaded situations or got more 2 out RBI, they probably would've clinched homefield by last week. Hope I'm wrong but I expect the Yankees to be playing that Game 163. I just hope it's a home game at this point

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    who hates Andruw Jones

    i seriously want to punch him in his fat face right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2JAY View Post
    Watching the Yankees trying to hit with RISP in 2012, is easily one of the most frustrating things I have ever seen. I just thought that they would be more consistent in those situtations and with the season coming to an end, it will be one of the main reasons why I believe that the Yankees will not be successful in the post season.
    Provided that they make it to the post-season. It is by no means a lock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2JAY View Post
    Watching the Yankees trying to hit with RISP in 2012, is easily one of the most frustrating things I have ever seen. I just thought that they would be more consistent in those situtations and with the season coming to an end, it will be one of the main reasons why I believe that the Yankees will not be successful in the post season.
    Watch somebody post OPS with RISP and say that we are fine and we don't struggle there.
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    starting the corpse of Andruw Jones is an inept thing to do w the season at stake
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