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  1. #1976
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Torre Must Go View Post
    You have a 7-0 lead after 4 with your ace on the mound, you've lost 12 of your last 18 while the Orioles have cut the division lead by 5.5 and they're going to win again tonight. Even if the Yankees win now, it will be a shaky win to say the least when you desperately needed a laugher. A loss and I'm sure Chavez and others will be more concerned than after last night's game. Right now I'd just sign up a for a playoff spot. Two weeks ago I was hoping for AL homefield advantage, get Pettitte back and hope for the best come Oct.
    Calm down, Sparky. They won by four runs.

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    It's amazing how much lipstick some of you guys put on this pig.
    I'm amazed at how many gloom and doomers there are.

    I think it balances out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madjack View Post
    It's amazing how much lipstick some of you guys put on this pig.
    When the team is struggling, take a win however it comes.
    Don't tease me, you know what I do for a living.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee View Post
    I'm amazed at how many gloom and doomers there are.

    I think it balances out.
    The standard is supposed to be World Series or bust, and a lot of money is spent on this team to be spectacular. The last few years have been busts, and I think what upsets many of us is that we are not losing for a lack of talent. They certainly have the pieces in place, but consistently underachieve. The rebuttal is usually showing some stat that points to how great the team really is, but is followed with some excuse of bad luck or random occurence. This team is supposed to put up huge numbers, and should actually put up even more than we do.

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    The standard needs to stop being "World Series or Bust." I want the Yankees to win all the time but considering the difficulty it is to win one title, expecting to win every year is just ridiculous.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by madjack View Post
    The standard is supposed to be World Series or bust, and a lot of money is spent on this team to be spectacular. The last few years have been busts, and I think what upsets many of us is that we are not losing for a lack of talent. They certainly have the pieces in place, but consistently underachieve. The rebuttal is usually showing some stat that points to how great the team really is, but is followed with some excuse of bad luck or random occurence. This team is supposed to put up huge numbers, and should actually put up even more than we do.
    2 seasons have passed since their last WS win. It's great to have a "WS or Bust" motto, but it takes a lot more than talent/$$ to put on a WS ring run like this team did starting in '96.

    They are putting up huge numbers.

    They are 3rd offensively in the AL in runs per game (4.84), and 2nd in OPS+.

    They are 4th defensively in the AL in runs allowed per game (4.06), and 2nd in ERA+.

    The team that is outproducing them in OPS+ is 11th in ERA+. The team that is beating them in ERA+ is 13th in OPS+.

    They are elite offensively and defensively, and no other team has quite the balanced effectiveness the Yankees do to this point.

    It's not putting lipstick on a pig, it's using facts and data to form objective views that aren't bogged down by isolated incidents where our eyes override our brains (e.g. W/L in 1 run games).

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    Am I the only one who thinks the bullpen was more effective without robertson THIS year.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

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    Am I the only one who thinks the bullpen was more effective without robertson THIS year.
    It was certainly more effective before we brought Joba back.

    What a failed experiment he has been. Let's hope we can salvage something out of the B&B bros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjack View Post
    It was certainly more effective before we brought Joba back.

    What a failed experiment he has been. Let's hope we can salvage something out of the B&B bros.
    Wow man. 4 innings after TJS and a catastrophic ankle injury.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by False1 View Post
    Wow man. 4 innings after TJS and a catastrophic ankle injury.
    He shouldn't have been back at all this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjack View Post
    He shouldn't have been back at all this year.
    Why is that?

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

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    Why is that?
    He's a doctor. Trust him.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by -tz View Post
    Closer to what?
    Dunno, but it's alot, so be careful.
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by madjack View Post
    He shouldn't have been back at all this year.
    It does seem that perhaps Joba could have used a couple more minor league appearances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madjack View Post
    It was certainly more effective before we brought Joba back.

    What a failed experiment he has been. Let's hope we can salvage something out of the B&B bros.
    Eh give it some time, he has to get readjusted. What I mean though is there was a long stretch that looked like the Yankees had the best bullpen in baseball. I think they had lowest era then robertson came back and now it looks a little shaky.

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    Wow man. 4 innings after TJS and a catastrophic ankle injury.
    Some people want perfection right away.
    Poor ownership can hold a baseball team down for years!

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962 View Post
    Some people want perfection right away.
    No, some people just really like to bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenoHightower View Post
    No, some people just really like to bitch.
    We've amassed an impressive collection of those people.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Torre Must Go View Post
    Even if the Yankees win now, it will be a shaky win to say the least when you desperately needed a laugher.
    My understanding is that with the introduction of the new playoff format, mlb also changed the seeding and tie-breaking formulas such that a win like last night's actually won't count when determining if we make the playoffs or how we're seeded.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    In keeping with this year's meme started by Mr. Coffee - NYY Fans where Yankee fans come to complain about the manner of victory. I have to agree it was somewhat depressing to see our ace and top setup guy turn a laugher into a nail biter.

    Though it is much better than turning a laugher into a loss - good job by the o to keep pouring it on even if 2 guys managed to get picked of when they had no business being picked off.
    Baseball is life;
    the rest is just details.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    To call the last two seasons "busts" is laughable.
    Life is good!

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by madjack View Post
    The standard is supposed to be World Series or bust, and a lot of money is spent on this team to be spectacular. The last few years have been busts, and I think what upsets many of us is that we are not losing for a lack of talent. They certainly have the pieces in place, but consistently underachieve. The rebuttal is usually showing some stat that points to how great the team really is, but is followed with some excuse of bad luck or random occurence. This team is supposed to put up huge numbers, and should actually put up even more than we do.
    Based on this standard, the franchise have been busts 84 out of their 111 seasons (including their seasons as the Baltimore Orioles and NY Highlanders).

    What a terrible franchise -
    Forgive me for taking the Contrarian view

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    A very good job by the Yankees earning a split, after dropping the 1st two, against a solid team playing great baseball at home.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    ^ This.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2JAY View Post
    A very good job by the Yankees earning a split, after dropping the 1st two, against a solid team playing great baseball at home.
    Very true.

    I still say the whole feeling around this team, and its recent struggles, would be different had they won 2 of 3 against both Boston and Baltimore like they should have.

    Hopefully they take care of business in Toronto and get on more of a roll.
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