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    Quote Originally Posted by Battingly View Post
    Bad luck that we played Seattle twice over the past week and didn't get to miss Felix in either series.
    Actually hadnt missed him in the last 10 series
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman23 View Post
    Well there is going to be a difference of opinion here for those of us who saw the lean years and then have witness the last two decades and those who don't fully understand how truly awesome the last 18 years gave been. The Yankees haven't been a sub .500 team since 1993. Have dominated their division for most of 2 decades, with it being the toughest in all of baseball to be in for most of that time. I mean I don't mean to sound like the "who is the better fan" here or anything, but I really and honestly do take every piece of success this team has seriously. Because at any moment it could fall apart. Sports are cyclical.
    I think its possible to fully appreciate everything thats happened here since 1995...but also get upset when the current team goes thru a losing streak or voice opinions on how the team is run. I want to win every year. Of course I know thats not gonna happen, but it doesnt mean it shouldnt be a goal and it shouldnt be something you hope for. And it also wont mean when we lose I wont get frustrated. I hate losing. Some fans can let losses roll of their backs easy and just shrug their shoulders and move on...I'm not one of those people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabomb2045 View Post
    What I wouldnt give to see our farm system develop a pitcher like Felix
    Easy enough - just become a Mariners' fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabomb2045 View Post
    I think its possible to fully appreciate everything thats happened here since 1995...but also get upset when the current team goes thru a losing streak or voice opinions on how the team is run. I want to win every year. Of course I know thats not gonna happen, but it doesnt mean it shouldnt be a goal and it shouldnt be something you hope for. And it also wont mean when we lose I wont get frustrated. I hate losing. Some fans can let losses roll of their backs easy and just shrug their shoulders and move on...I'm not one of those people.
    I don't think so. IMO, you have to experience your team really struggling for a period of time to fully appreciate a dynasty type team like the 90s Yankees. It has nothing to do with youth or being a better fan, but all to do with realizing the difficulty that lies in having one team dominate a sport for an extended period of time. All of us hate losing and none of us embrace it, but sooner or later, we're all have to deal with it and if that's what you call moving on then so be it. We all evolve as people, the same is true as fans as life experiences and the maturation process changes us all, including our fandom.
    Is this the end of the Brian Cashman era?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabomb2045 View Post
    What I wouldnt give to see our farm system develop a pitcher like Felix
    You and me both. If King Felix pitched for a team like the Yankees, instead of being considered one of the best pitchers in baseball, he would be thought of as an immortal pitcher who's final address will be the HOF. God, I hate seeing such a great talent being wasted on a bad team. Furthemore, I don't think he realizes how good he can be as the constant losing has to affect his mental outlook in a negative way especially knowing his team is limited in the number of runs they can give him.
    Is this the end of the Brian Cashman era?

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dabomb2045 View Post
    I think its possible to fully appreciate everything thats happened here since 1995...but also get upset when the current team goes thru a losing streak or voice opinions on how the team is run. I want to win every year. Of course I know thats not gonna happen, but it doesnt mean it shouldnt be a goal and it shouldnt be something you hope for. And it also wont mean when we lose I wont get frustrated. I hate losing. Some fans can let losses roll of their backs easy and just shrug their shoulders and move on...I'm not one of those people.
    I fully understand your viewpoint, I have friends who act like the end of the world is here when the Yanks lose. I'm dealing with what is basically a terminal condition which has shifted my priorities away from sports of any professional kind. Now sitting through a 90 degree plus day yesterday and taking 3 hours to get home after because of an accident on the Deegan, that is frustrating! I know a lot of the posts come down as "I'm a better fan than you" but that is not the intent, it is basically two types of fans describing how they are. For me, there has not been a title more meaningful to me than the 1996 World Series. Yes I've enjoyed the others since but that one more so because it came after 15 years of either sucking or falling just short. I think if we won every year, it would become boring and less meaningful. The negativity that puzzles me isn't those that are upset about losing the game, it's the negativity of we have lost 6 of 7 so our future is bleak, it's a failure of the system, etc. That is what drives me crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeePride1967 View Post
    I fully understand your viewpoint, I have friends who act like the end of the world is here when the Yanks lose. I'm dealing with what is basically a terminal condition which has shifted my priorities away from sports of any professional kind. Now sitting through a 90 degree plus day yesterday and taking 3 hours to get home after because of an accident on the Deegan, that is frustrating! I know a lot of the posts come down as "I'm a better fan than you" but that is not the intent, it is basically two types of fans describing how they are. For me, there has not been a title more meaningful to me than the 1996 World Series. Yes I've enjoyed the others since but that one more so because it came after 15 years of either sucking or falling just short. I think if we won every year, it would become boring and less meaningful. The negativity that puzzles me isn't those that are upset about losing the game, it's the negativity of we have lost 6 of 7 so our future is bleak, it's a failure of the system, etc. That is what drives me crazy.
    Fair enough. It all comes down to personality. Everyone handles things different. I'm a wear my heart on my sleeve kinda guy. I hate losing anything....I get upset when someone beats me at mini golf or air hockey haha. When I played sports in HS, I was like a cross between Paul O'Neill and John McEnroe. Other people are like Mo, they keep everything inside. If it bothers them they dont show it or they simply dont allow it to bother them.

    Everyone's fandom is different. I'll even admit that some of the things I say right after a loss or in the midst of a losing streak...are emotions talking. I cant change it though, its just who I am. This board is therapeutic to me when it comes to venting frustrations about the team.

    I do think sometimes though people who express legit concerns and/or are unhappy...seem to get picked on alot. Not saying by you, but more of a general statement.

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    I used to get pissed when they'd lose. These days I don't even react unless it's a really tough loss to a rival team. Even then it's not very likely. The older I get the less I find myself caring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax Teller View Post
    I used to get pissed when they'd lose. These days I don't even react unless it's a really tough loss to a rival team. Even then it's not very likely. The older I get the less I find myself caring.
    Basically how I am as well. I just accept that the team is good and that baseball is a long season with peaks and valleys. Getting worked up game to game in a season this long makes for a very long and frustrating summer.
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dabomb2045 View Post
    What I wouldnt give to see our farm system develop a pitcher like Felix
    How about giving up the farm system to get him instead? He'll be a year younger next year than CC was when he signed here. Crazy.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic View Post
    How about giving up the farm system to get him instead? He'll be a year younger next year than CC was when he signed here. Crazy.
    Yeah, but he'll have about the same number of IP.

    He's also showing signs of decline. Take for example his velocity:




    vs. CC, who was holding steady.
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    His peripherals are as good as ever. Velocity loss is a concern, but it doesn't matter all that much when his offspeed stuff is so elite.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    I really wish we still had Melky and Austin Jackson. And Jesus Montero, but that's because of the injury.
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePinStripes View Post
    I really wish we still had Melky and Austin Jackson. And Jesus Montero, but that's because of the injury.

    And I'd love to have Mantle and Berra (at their peaks) but it ain't gonna happen
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePinStripes View Post
    I really wish we still had Melky and Austin Jackson. And Jesus Montero, but that's because of the injury.
    Would you really have wanted to hold on to Melky through the 2010 season?
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JDPNYY View Post
    They had greater than zero retaliation.
    Does drilling a defensive specialist count?
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    the rest is just details.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
    Does drilling a defensive specialist count?
    Somewhat. Who do you hit on that team. Montero? Maybe, but we're gonna want him back as soon as possible. Can't hit him.
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Even though we're down 7-2, Eric Chavez, who is 3-for-3 with 2 doubles, should have been a Player of the Game candidate.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    It seems like every time we face Verlander, the tigers score a bunch of runs.
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    Verlander became the third pitcher since 1918 to have at least 14 strikeouts and at least 8 hits allowed against the Yankees. The previous two times were in 1957 and 1920, and unlike Verlander both of those pitchers pitched 9 innings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvanJ View Post
    Verlander became the third pitcher since 1918 to have at least 14 strikeouts and at least 8 hits allowed against the Yankees. The previous two times were in 1957 and 1920, and unlike Verlander both of those pitchers pitched 9 innings.
    The Randazzo/Verlander combo were unbeatable tonight.

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    Today was the second fewest pitches the Yankees have thrown since 1918 in a game where they allowed 7 or more runs. The Yankees threw 105 pitches today and threw 101 pitches on June 9, 1994 in a 7-5 loss at Toronto.

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    Owned by two aces in three days. Not good.

    As much as I like Nova, he is flat out brutal right now. While I think he is a better long-term option than Phelps, I don't think it would be terrible if he were sent down for a bit to regain his form and give Phelps his starts. Either way, our once impressive pitching depth is now razor thin. I fear we have one of those rotations which is built for the regular season but may get beaten like a drum in October.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bomber999 View Post
    Owned by two aces in three days. Not good.

    As much as I like Nova, he is flat out brutal right now. While I think he is a better long-term option than Phelps, I don't think it would be terrible if he were sent down for a bit to regain his form and give Phelps his starts. Either way, our once impressive pitching depth is now razor thin. I fear we have one of those rotations which is built for the regular season but may get beaten like a drum in October.
    If youre going to lose youd want it to at least be against the 2 best pitchers in the american league maybe all of baseball, you just tip youre cap and move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.V.47 View Post
    If youre going to lose youd want it to at least be against the 2 best pitchers in the american league maybe all of baseball, you just tip youre cap and move on.
    They still had their chances. But 9 LOB and 3-14 with RISP...they're in postseason form already.
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