2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

[Eldee5]

The main cogs in that plan were Pineda, Hughes, Banuelos and Betances. Yes there are some secondary options like Mitchell, Phelps and Warren, but the 4 names mentioned above were the headliners.

The Nova situation is different because little was expected.
He was not heralded as the next big thing. It seems as soon as you get on the Yankees radar, you are doomed. Nova was the exception that managed to fly under the radar literally until he got to the bigs..
Maybe we'll catch a break and have others do that, but it is not a safe bet.

I'm re-quoting the paragraph I was referencing in my previous post.
You mentioned the headliners only as Pineda, Hughes, Banuelos and Betances. Nova had to have been part of the prime quartet as he was pitching in the bigs before Cashman ever traded for Pineda. It doesn't matter whether he was under the radar or not, he's got to be considered among the cost-controlled options and in a big way because he's already here.

C'mon, admit it. You forgot about Nova when you wrote your excellent post.

[False1]

Is that 189 limit worth a few no playoff seasons to ownership? I fear we may be about to find out.

Is that you, Cole Hamels?

[False1]

Why did we ever let Bartolo Colon go? he has a 2.62 era and has won three games.

2011, 2nd half:
4.96 ERA, .298 BAA, 1.47 WHIP

ERA:
July: 3.82
Aug: 4.85
Sep/Oct: 5.96

They thought he was done. He still might be... just wait a bit.

Also, his 2012 starts have been against: SEA, SEA, SEA, LAA, CHW... not exactly potent offenses at this time.

I could get behind this if the alternative wasn't Garcia at twice Colon's cost. I don't see how anyone expected Garcia to replicate his '11 season. He was tremendous, but was/is also an injury risk and regression to the mean was almost inevitable. Colon at least flashed outrageously good stuff in the first half prior to getting hurt. I'm surprised that if they were set on gambling on one of those guys this season that it wasn't Colon.

[effdamets]

Is that you, Cole Hamels?

Isn't Halladay a FA too this offseason?

[NYIndian2005]

So, basically we have Koruda (37), Garcia (35) and Pettitte (39) as critical pieces of our starting rotation that we cannot lose to injury.

I can't believe year after year we come back to the same situation with our starting rotation. What a combination of incredible bad luck and incompetence on the part of Cashman and the management to solidify our pitching situation.

[Yankee Fan in Boston]

So, basically we have Koruda (37), Garcia (35) and Pettitte (39) as critical pieces of our starting rotation that we cannot lose to injury.

I can't believe year after year we come back to the same situation with our starting rotation. What a combination of incredible bad luck and incompetence on the part of Cashman and the management to solidify our pitching situation.

We may well be relying on Kuroda and Pettitte, but I don't expect Garcia to be around much longer unless something dramatically changes with him

[BRNXBMRS]

Detroit Tigers slugger Delmon Young busted after Midtown hotel brawl

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...#ixzz1tFHChgqS

[teknetic]

Hamels is gonna make bank this offseason and he knows it. He's also killing it so far: 26IP/3BB/30K

[aeromac76]

I'm re-quoting the paragraph I was referencing in my previous post.
You mentioned the headliners only as Pineda, Hughes, Banuelos and Betances. Nova had to have been part of the prime quartet as he was pitching in the bigs before Cashman ever traded for Pineda. It doesn't matter whether he was under the radar or not, he's got to be considered among the cost-controlled options and in a big way because he's already here.

C'mon, admit it. You forgot about Nova when you wrote your excellent post.

Actually honest truth, I did not forget about him. I just feel like he was more them getting very lucky than a plan for a big prospect coming through..

[aeromac76]

Is that you, Cole Hamels?

I wish, he makes way more than I do..

[MoVaughnEatsAlot]

I want Hamels badly this offseason. Give the man what he wants.

[Mr Coffee]

I want Hamels badly this offseason. Give the man what he wants.

"Pay that man his money"

[False1]

I want Hamels badly this offseason. Give the man what he wants.

There's obviously a lot that can happen between now and then, but with the uncertainty around Pineda, the one-year deals for Kuroda and Pettitte, the ineffectiveness of Hughes, the dampened outlooks for some of the mL SP options... I'd be surprised if the Yankees don't continue to publicly state their desire to get under $189MM but begin planning on being over that by going hard after Hamels and retaining key guys on the offense.

[Yankees1962]

April 27th and the Yankees are already doomed for 2012 and probably 2013 if they don't sign Cole Hamels.

[False1]

April 27th and the Yankees are already doomed for 2012 and probably 2013 if they don't sign Cole Hamels.

Who has said anything remotely close to that? I generally agree with your POV that is less cynical that most around here, but you're reaching here if you're commenting on my post. I honestly don't see this in any posts out here (although there's plenty of DOOOOM in the Pineda threads).

[teknetic]

April 27th and the Yankees are already doomed for 2012 and probably 2013 if they don't sign Cole Hamels.

Damn, a bit overboard on this one. I've wanted Hamels since last offseason. A true elite lefty to compliment Sabathia would be wonderful.

[just-blaze]

Looking at the bullpens of some playoff hopefuls (Toronto, LAA, Boston) and looking at our depth.

We could really rape and pillage some teams a couple of months from now.

[NYCrusader]

Joba update...

Meredith Marakovits ‏ @M_Marakovits
Joba Chamberlain back in the clubhouse .. rehab going well hopes to be out of boot in about another week... Added arm feels great #yankees

Marc Carig ‏ @MarcCarig
Joba dropped a lot of weight btw. He wouldn't put a number on it but it's obvious.

[Yankee Fan in Boston]

Joba update...

Impressive that he lost weight while in a boot

[teknetic]

Looking at the bullpens of some playoff hopefuls (Toronto, LAA, Boston) and looking at our depth.

We could really rape and pillage some teams a couple of months from now.

Haren for Joba back on the table?

[Mr Coffee]

Impressive that he lost weight while in a boot

Harder to walk to the fridge.

[Eldee5]

Harder to walk to the fridge.

You got me.

[snapple]

You got me.

[apalradio]

April 27th and the Yankees are already doomed for 2012 and probably 2013 if they don't sign Cole Hamels.

There's plenty of room for discussion about how much improvement he would represent to this rotation in particular and the team in general before getting to an extremist, exaggerated position such as this.

[TheYankee]

I'm re-quoting the paragraph I was referencing in my previous post.
You mentioned the headliners only as Pineda, Hughes, Banuelos and Betances. Nova had to have been part of the prime quartet as he was pitching in the bigs before Cashman ever traded for Pineda. It doesn't matter whether he was under the radar or not, he's got to be considered among the cost-controlled options and in a big way because he's already here.

C'mon, admit it. You forgot about Nova when you wrote your excellent post.

I love Ivan, but I'd be lying through my teeth if I told you the name "Ching-Ming Wang" doesn't come to mind every time I see him pitch.