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    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic View Post
    Would have probably needed to beat Anaheim by 10-20M in order to get him.
    yeah. He also strikes me as too laid back for NY. I think he could do it, but he certainly is going to thrive in a market like LA.

    edit: I'd rather have CC/Kuroda/Pineda/Pettitte/Nova with Hughes in the pen as opposed to having Montero in our lineup. Our lineup is deep and very good, everyone isn't quite clicking yet, though.

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    I was just wondering. Given the recent dominance of our SP and the effectiveness of the bullpen, as well as the hindsight of the Pineda deal, and finally our offensive struggles with RISP, how much better would our record be if Montero was in our lineup every day and we never shipped him off for Pineda?
    Not much if at all. Montero has a bright future but his line so far this year isn't much different from Ibanez to date. Had the Yanks kept Montero to DH they would not have signed Ibanez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
    Not much if at all. Montero has a bright future but his line so far this year isn't much different from Ibanez to date. Had the Yanks kept Montero to DH they would not have signed Ibanez.
    The Yankees DHs are hitting .300/.370/.502 this season. Montero's going to be a good hitter, but i don't see that his bat would have made a significant difference this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    The Yankees DHs are hitting .300/.370/.502 this season. Montero's going to be a good hitter, but i don't see that his bat would have made a significant difference this year.
    but what are they hitting with RISP?
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    but what are they hitting with RISP?
    I'd guess about even or maybe a bit better than Montero's .194/ .254/ .306.
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Cliff Lee still hasn't won a game this year. I wonder if he's still jelly about picking the "younger" team.

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    Bryce Harper became the youngest player since 1918 (possible all-time) to strike out five times. The previous youngest was Jason Heyward at age 20.
    If ever there was a way into the baseball records books for me, this was it. Too late now though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic View Post
    Cliff Lee still hasn't won a game this year. I wonder if he's still jelly about picking the "younger" team.
    Joel Sherman wrote an article yesterday where he said that the Phils should trade Lee and give their money to the younger Hamels instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBOSS84 View Post
    Joel Sherman wrote an article yesterday where he said that the Phils should trade Lee and give their money to the younger Hamels instead.
    I wonder what the stipulations of his "limited no-trade protection" are. Surprised his agent didn't go for a full no-trade after all the swapping he's done.

    Maybe we can dump Hughes on them if he keeps it up.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic View Post
    I wonder what the stipulations of his "limited no-trade protection" are. Surprised his agent didn't go for a full no-trade after all the swapping he's done.

    Maybe we can dump Hughes on them if he keeps it up.
    Sherman guessed that the 9 teams on his NTC would be the 9 teams most capable of handling his high salary, which makes perfect sense.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by teknetic View Post
    I wonder what the stipulations of his "limited no-trade protection" are. Surprised his agent didn't go for a full no-trade after all the swapping he's done.

    Maybe we can dump Hughes on them if he keeps it up.
    The way Hughes is pitching now why would you want to dump him on anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ymike673 View Post
    The way Hughes is pitching now why would you want to dump him on anyone.
    Because while Hughes has pitched admirably of late, I don't believe that he has suddenly become a dramatically better pitcher than he's been his entire career. It's certainly possible, but I don't think it's more likely than he's made some adjustments and is hot right now.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

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    Because while Hughes has pitched admirably of late, I don't believe that he has suddenly become a dramatically better pitcher than he's been his entire career. It's certainly possible, but I don't think it's more likely than he's made some adjustments and is hot right now.
    In theroy he should be entering his prime having just turned 26 this month.
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
    In theroy he should be entering his prime having just turned 26 this month.
    Not to mention that even if that was not true, the other teams' scouts obviously know that he may be "only" on a hot streak...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
    In theroy he should be entering his prime having just turned 26 this month.
    But his season numbers are still only pretty good. If he's the pitcher he's been this season for the rest of the season, he's basically league average.

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RenoHightower View Post
    Because while Hughes has pitched admirably of late, I don't believe that he has suddenly become a dramatically better pitcher than he's been his entire career. It's certainly possible, but I don't think it's more likely than he's made some adjustments and is hot right now.
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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RenoHightower View Post
    But his season numbers are still only pretty good. If he's the pitcher he's been this season for the rest of the season, he's basically league average.
    I guess it depends on what you think of him going forward and is he closer to the diaster that he was in April, the medicore pitcher he was in May or the ace he's been in June.

    I just don't see getting back better value that what he is in a deal. I susppose if someone wants to over pay for him I'm not opposed to dealing him. I just don't see what that would be though.
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    Can anyone tell me when was the last time the Yankees had an 11+ game winning streak, and was it exactly 11 or more?

    Thanks

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    Can anyone tell me when was the last time the Yankees had an 11+ game winning streak, and was it exactly 11 or more?

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    Quite a while. Yanks had winning streaks of exactly 10 games in 05, 98 & 94. But I haven't found one of 11 or more yet.

    edit another 10 gamer in 87.

    11 games in 1985 - August 31 - September 10.
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    A little while ago Francesa listed his All-Yankee team since 1962

    Since I don't go back that far, here's my All-Yankee team since 1976

    LINEUP

    LF Rickey Henderson
    SS Derek Jeter
    1B Don Mattingly
    3B Alex Rodriguez
    DH Reggie Jackson
    2B Robinson Cano
    CF Bernie Williams
    RF Paul O'Neill
    C Thurman Munson

    STARTING STAFF

    Ron Guidry
    David Cone
    CC Sabathia
    Andy Pettitte
    Orlando Hernandez

    BULLPEN

    CL Mariano Rivera
    RH-SU Goose Gossage
    LH-SU Sparky Lyle
    Last edited by Battingly; 06-20-12 at 06:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post

    11 games in 1985 - August 31 - September 10
    Wow, 27 Years

    Thanks Tripper

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    Re: 2012 General Yankee Comments Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Battingly View Post
    A little while ago Francesa listed his All-Yankee team since 1962

    Since I don't go back that far, here's my All-Yankee team since 1976

    STARTING STAFF

    Ron Guidry
    David Cone
    CC Sabathia
    Andy Pettitte
    Orlando Hernandez
    Here are some numbers for pitchers only including their games with the Yankees:

    Hernandez: 61-40 (.604), 3.96 ERA
    Cone: 64-40 (.615), 3.91 ERA

    You left out:
    Clemens: 83-42 (.664), 4.01 ERA (a slightly worse ERA than Hernandez and Cone but more wins and a significantly better winning percentage)
    Mussina: 123-72 (.631), 3.88 ERA (better than Hernandez and Cone in wins, winning percentage, and ERA)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvanJ View Post
    Here are some numbers for pitchers only including their games with the Yankees:

    Hernandez: 61-40 (.604), 3.96 ERA
    Cone: 64-40 (.615), 3.91 ERA

    You left out:
    Clemens: 83-42 (.664), 4.01 ERA (a slightly worse ERA than Hernandez and Cone but more wins and a significantly better winning percentage)
    Mussina: 123-72 (.631), 3.88 ERA (better than Hernandez and Cone in wins, winning percentage, and ERA)
    Clemens can stay home but I agree that Mussina should be in that rotation.

    Also, as much as I love Thurman Munson, I'm not sure I'd take him over Posada. Come to think of it, you could make the case that the best team has Munson at C, Posada at DH, Reggie in RF, and O'Neill getting the snub.
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