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    Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

    It 's not a 9 innings game so it shouldn't count.

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    Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

    Need more contact hitters. Too many hitters in this lineup that don't shorten up on their swings with RISP.
    It's why they don't hit in the post season.

    A couple more Brett Gardner's will go a long way. imo.

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    Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

    21 LOB is hard to do for any team.

    As many have said in this thread; At least they're getting on base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GimeMoMuny View Post
    21 LOB is hard to do for any team.

    As many have said in this thread; At least they're getting on base.
    So far this season they have had two games where they went 2-18 with RISP, and won both of them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLURPEE View Post
    Need more contact hitters. Too many hitters in this lineup that don't shorten up on their swings with RISP.
    It's why they don't hit in the post season.

    A couple more Brett Gardner's will go a long way. imo.
    On the flip side, if we got too many contact hitters and still struggled to score. We'd bemoan the lack of power and failing to take advantage of the stadium that we have that is prime for home run hitters.

    A lot of it just comes down to luck. If the right guys get hot at the right time, then you'll have a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -tz View Post
    "The Yankees' long national nightmare is over, they win a game without a home run!"--Michael Kay, immediately after today's win.

    Thats great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by b_joseph View Post
    On the flip side, if we got too many contact hitters and still struggled to score. We'd bemoan the lack of power and failing to take advantage of the stadium that we have that is prime for home run hitters.

    A lot of it just comes down to luck. If the right guys get hot at the right time, then you'll have a chance.
    I really think that this is just an odd occurrence. It's hard to scatter 9 hits and get 3 runs or whatever. It will eventually even out.

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    Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by b_joseph View Post
    On the flip side, if we got too many contact hitters and still struggled to score. We'd bemoan the lack of power and failing to take advantage of the stadium that we have that is prime for home run hitters.

    A lot of it just comes down to luck. If the right guys get hot at the right time, then you'll have a chance.
    I didn't say to fill the entire lineup with a bunch of Brett Gardners.

    Nine hitters in an AL lineup and 3 are contact hitters is NOT a big deal. That leaves you with 6 power hitters. I'm looking to add other elements to this lineup. Too many of the same type of hitters.

    They would still hit for plenty of power.

    It's not "luck" either. The Yankees are not a contact situational hitting team. And haven't been for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLURPEE View Post
    It's not "luck" either. The Yankees are not a contact situational hitting team. And haven't been for years.
    ...yet perennially lead or are amongst the leaders in run production.

    When you say "contact situational hitting team", what situations are you referring to? When you say "haven't been for years" do you include 2011?

    RISP: 122 sOPS+
    Men on: 120 sOPS+
    On 3rd, <2 out: 129 sOPS+
    On 3rd, 2 out: 148 sOPS+
    Bases loaded, 0 out: 115 sOPS+
    Bases loaded, 1 out: 158 sOPS+
    Bases loaded, 2 out: 169 sOPS+
    2 out, RISP: 108 sOPS+
    Late & Close: 95 sOPS+
    Tie Game: 129 sOPS+
    Within 1 R: 118 sOPS+
    Behind: 120 sOPS+
    High Leverage: 115 sOPS+

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    Quote Originally Posted by False1 View Post
    RISP: 122 sOPS+
    Men on: 120 sOPS+
    On 3rd, <2 out: 129 sOPS+
    On 3rd, 2 out: 148 sOPS+
    Bases loaded, 0 out: 115 sOPS+
    Bases loaded, 1 out: 158 sOPS+
    Bases loaded, 2 out: 169 sOPS+
    2 out, RISP: 108 sOPS+
    Late & Close: 95 sOPS+
    Tie Game: 129 sOPS+
    Within 1 R: 118 sOPS+
    Behind: 120 sOPS+
    High Leverage: 115 sOPS+
    Yeah, but other than that they suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by False1 View Post
    ...yet perennially lead or are amongst the leaders in run production.

    When you say "contact situational hitting team", what situations are you referring to? When you say "haven't been for years" do you include 2011?

    RISP: 122 sOPS+
    Men on: 120 sOPS+
    On 3rd, <2 out: 129 sOPS+
    On 3rd, 2 out: 148 sOPS+
    Bases loaded, 0 out: 115 sOPS+
    Bases loaded, 1 out: 158 sOPS+
    Bases loaded, 2 out: 169 sOPS+
    2 out, RISP: 108 sOPS+
    Late & Close: 95 sOPS+
    Tie Game: 129 sOPS+
    Within 1 R: 118 sOPS+
    Behind: 120 sOPS+
    High Leverage: 115 sOPS+
    Yet this doesn't translate to post season success.

    All or nothing...offense. That's what they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLURPEE View Post
    Yet this doesn't translate to post season success.

    All or nothing...offense. That's what they are.
    That's what most teams are.
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    Yet this doesn't translate to post season success.
    Indeed and in years where they didn't hit well with RISP they have won the WS. This proves you wrong, not right. Baseball performances are inconsistent by design and luck is built into the mechanics of the game. There isn't some magical combination of player types that will make a team consistent and guaranteed to have post-season success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee View Post
    That's what most teams are.
    Most teams rely on the HR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by K-W View Post
    Indeed and in years where they didn't hit well with RISP they have won the WS. This proves you wrong, not right. Baseball performances are inconsistent by design and luck is built into the mechanics of the game. There isn't some magical combination of player types that will make a team consistent and guaranteed to have post-season success.
    Agreed, for all we know Tex and Swisher, who had terrible prior post seasons, could be heros this year as Arod was in 2009 despite his prior problems in similar situations. Look at the great Yankees from yesteryear that had great WS and poor ones too like Yogi and Mantle.
    Is this the end of the Brian Cashman era?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLURPEE View Post
    Yet this doesn't translate to post season success.

    All or nothing...offense. That's what they are.
    And yet in the last 3 years only 2 others teams can say they have won the world series.
    Baseball is life;
    the rest is just details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLURPEE View Post
    Most teams rely on the HR?
    No, that's not what I said.

    I said most teams are all or nothing.

    Who cares how the runs are scored?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee View Post
    No, that's not what I said.

    I said most teams are all or nothing.

    Who cares how the runs are scored?


    It might have something to do with the one pitcher on the mound.

    Either that or this (all) teams just magically sync all 9 hitters to be good or bad on a given day.
    A fool and his money can throw one heck of a party!

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    Quote Originally Posted by K-W View Post
    Indeed and in years where they didn't hit well with RISP they have won the WS. This proves you wrong, not right. Baseball performances are inconsistent by design and luck is built into the mechanics of the game. There isn't some magical combination of player types that will make a team consistent and guaranteed to have post-season success.
    I think after the 96-01 stretch. Folks thought that we could replicate that club and have another run similar to that one. When in reality, we're not likely to see a run like that every again...in any sport.

    The best we can do is build a club that ccan compete over 162 and hope for the best in October. If this club gets hot at the right time, then we'll be a match for anyone ( just like a number of other clubs ).
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    Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by SLURPEE View Post
    Yet this doesn't translate to post season success.

    All or nothing...offense. That's what they are.
    You said they haven't been good situational hitters for years. Just last season, they were very good situational hitters over the course of 162 games. Now you're going to trot out playoff samples. Last year's playoff demise came down to 1 run in game 5, and it really wasn't just situational hitting. It was that A-Rod, Tex, Martin and Swisher completely vaporized regardless of situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b_joseph View Post
    I think after the 96-01 stretch. Folks thought that we could replicate that club and have another run similar to that one. When in reality, we're not likely to see a run like that every again...in any sport.

    The best we can do is build a club that ccan compete over 162 and hope for the best in October. If this club gets hot at the right time, then we'll be a match for anyone ( just like a number of other clubs ).
    Agreed. Just look at last season. The Cardinals surged into the playoffs, weren't taken seriously at all and won the whole thing. Some key performances at key times from both the offense and defense. Does that mean they're great situationally? I don't think so.

    The Yankees have a strong offense that will almost certainly bat them into the playoffs. From there, it's anybody's game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by False1 View Post
    Agreed. Just look at last season. The Cardinals surged into the playoffs, weren't taken seriously at all and won the whole thing. Some key performances at key times from both the offense and defense. Does that mean they're great situationally? I don't think so.

    The Yankees have a strong offense that will almost certainly bat them into the playoffs. From there, it's anybody's game.
    The Cardinals had a hot hitter like Freese that came up in almost every big spot. The same can happen to just about any team that makes the playoffs in which they get lucky that their hottest hitter is up during the critical times.
    Is this the end of the Brian Cashman era?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962 View Post
    The Cardinals had a hot hitter like Freese that came up in almost every big spot. The same can happen to just about any team that makes the playoffs in which they get lucky that their hottest hitter is up during the critical times.
    You mean like 2009 and A-rod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benefactor View Post
    You mean like 2009 and A-rod.
    Or 2010 with Cody Ross.

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    Just a tad bit too many guys who are hitting below .250

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