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    Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

    Cant buy a hit with the bases juiced!

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    Gets ahead 2-0...then starts swinging out of his shoes trying to hit the ball out of the stadium. The 2-0 pitch was pretty much in the dirt too.

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    Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

    Is it possible that the Yankees will hit below .100 with the bases loaded this year? madness

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapple View Post
    Because there is a lot of season left.
    It's not as if they will suddenly start hitting .500 the rest of the year.

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    Observation I made when looking at the team's BR page: Everyone in the starting line up has an OPS+ over 100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2JAY View Post
    Is it possible that the Yankees will hit below .100 with the bases loaded this year? madness
    They can hit Grand Slams but can anyone remember the last time a Yankee got a 2 run single with the bags full?

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    Quote Originally Posted by False1 View Post
    This still gets my vote for most meaningless stat of the season so far. Keep the wins with HR coming, please.
    Looking at it simply as a stat, it probably is meaningless. Looking at it as an indicator of a team's entire opportunistic approach, it should be cause for concern. Just imagine how much better this team could be if they could actually score runs in additional ways.
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    Looking at it simply as a stat, it probably is meaningless. Looking at it as an indicator of a team's entire opportunistic approach, it should be cause for concern. Just imagine how much better this team could be if they could actually score runs in additional ways.
    Concerns are noted for good reason, but there are 104 games left and one of catalyst for scoring runs in additional ways has been missing in action for just about the whole season to this point. A lot of baseball to be played yet as it will be interesting to see if the current thrends stay that way for the rest of this baseball season and whether any additional roster changes will affect those trends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apalradio View Post
    Looking at it simply as a stat, it probably is meaningless. Looking at it as an indicator of a team's entire opportunistic approach, it should be cause for concern. Just imagine how much better this team could be if they could actually score runs in additional ways.
    I just don't see it. I went back and looked at some of those games. Some of them were against very good pitchers, some of them featured lineups with healthy doses of Nunez, Stewart, Nix, Wise, etc. those things tend to suppress runs by all means, including the HR. Some games were against scrubs, and the O just sucked. It happens.

    I'm concerned about the RISP suckage, but not the winless-without-HR stat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apalradio View Post
    Looking at it simply as a stat, it probably is meaningless. Looking at it as an indicator of a team's entire opportunistic approach, it should be cause for concern. Just imagine how much better this team could be if they could actually score runs in additional ways.
    But that concern wasn't expressed after a loss without HR, it was after a win with HR. Those aren't a concern.

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    It's the most ridiculous stat ever. W/L for a pitcher mean more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by False1 View Post
    I just don't see it. I went back and looked at some of those games. Some of them were against very good pitchers, some of them featured lineups with healthy doses of Nunez, Stewart, Nix, Wise, etc. those things tend to suppress runs by all means, including the HR. Some games were against scrubs, and the O just sucked. It happens.

    I'm concerned about the RISP suckage, but not the winless-without-HR stat.
    Has anyone looked at other teams' records in games when they haven't hit a HR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Fan in Boston View Post
    Has anyone looked at other teams' records in games when they haven't hit a HR?
    Here are the teams in the AL that have scored more runs than the Yankees for comparison.

    Yankees: 0W/12L

    Texas: 4W/11L... allowed 7 runs in 4 W's
    Boston: 4W/16L... allowed 7 runs in 4 W's
    Toronto: 6W/9L... allowed 15 runs in 6 W's
    Chicago: 4W/11L... allowed 12 runs in 4 W's

    Here is Tampa, since they are a half game up on the Yankees and probably the team that comes to mind for folks banging on the "0fer without a HR" stat.

    Tampa: 9W/11L... allowed 19 runs in 9 W's

    Some things stand out to me. First, the Yankees have a HR in more games than any of those teams. Second, seldom did those W's for any of those teams come from stringing tons of hits/productive outs and subsequently runs together; generally the offense was suppressed but the defense more than compensated for it. Third, in spite of a 9W margin between the Yankees and the Rays in this "stat" with about a third of the season in the books, they are only .5 games apart.

    Would I have like to have seen the Yankees scratch out 3 runs to win the 2-0 game against Darvish in April? Yes. Or the 3-0 game against Hellickson? Of course. But it's not like these 11 games were all 1-0 losses because the team didn't hit a ground ball or two to advance a runner here or there. Most of these games were on the defense.

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    Pretty awful performance against Minor.

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    But......................


    Nice to see some late comebacks recently. Always a bonus when you can do that.
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    Lead the majors with 5 Grand Slams but have the 29th worst batting average with the bases loaded! Simply Amazing!!!!

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    Further evidence for the swing-for-the-fences theory.
    A fool and his money can throw one heck of a party!

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    Quote Originally Posted by False1 View Post
    I'm concerned about the RISP suckage, but not the winless-without-HR stat.
    This.

    It's the RISP suckage that is resulting in the winless-without-HR stat.
    A fool and his money can throw one heck of a party!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePinStripes View Post
    This.

    It's the RISP suckage that is resulting in the winless-without-HR stat.
    Before A Rod's slam they had moved down to 30th worst average with the bases full.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ymike673 View Post
    Before A Rod's slam they had moved down to 30th worst average with the bases full.
    Yet they've hit the most GSs and scored the 3rd most runs with the bases loaded this year.
    Baseball is life;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
    Yet they've hit the most GSs and scored the 3rd most runs with the bases loaded this year.
    How dare you!
    Don't you know the team needs to hit more singles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by effdamets View Post
    How dare you!
    Don't you know the team needs to hit more singles?

    Well if the kept the GS rate and replaced some of the outs with 1Bs or 2B, I wouldn't complain but I don't think guys are going up there trying to GIDP right now.
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    Damn home runs.
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    Should a HR count as a hit with RISP? The batter was just trying to show off with a home run swing not really trying to drive in those runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K-W View Post
    Should a HR count as a hit with RISP? The batter was just trying to show off with a home run swing not really trying to drive in those runs.
    good point. we really should be looking at BABIP with RISP as a true gritty gutty level of how much guys really want it!
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