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  1. #251
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    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by grizy View Post
    His ridiculous Houdini act 89% strand rate in 2011 was never gonna last.

    K/9 is down, but that's partly because he's not walking as many people (giving him more chances to K). In terms of per batter faced, his K% isn't down that much (36.8 to 31.3). His BB% meanwhile dropped ~30% from 12.9% to 8.5%.

    We're looking at a more aggressive pitcher more willing to attack the zone. The Ks, BBs and K/BB ratios are all still very strong. Going forward, he's still our best option in the 8th. Some playoff teams wish they had DRob to close for that matter.
    I really liked the old no contact, K or BB d-rob. It was great for a reliever, especially with that many k's. Would never work for a starter but it's great for a reliever.

    He also lost some velocity. I recall him hitting 96mph.
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    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    Nice bounce back performance tonight.

  3. #253

    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePinStripes View Post
    I really liked the old no contact, K or BB d-rob. It was great for a reliever, especially with that many k's. Would never work for a starter but it's great for a reliever.

    He also lost some velocity. I recall him hitting 96mph.
    It's great for a fireman because there are situations where all or nothing is good (guys like Robertson will tend to give up runs in chunks).

    But for someone we'll need starting innings... I prefer a lower WHIP and lower expected ERA profile.

  4. #254

    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    if he was pitching like he was earlier in the season with a low pitch count per batter then he could start maybe. but if he's inefficient then it's no good
    always reasonable

  5. #255

    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    I've been disappointed with Drob this season.
    He has lacked consistency and walks too many.

    I never thought he could be a closer and let's ask the Yankees to not consider him for that role. He just allows too many baserunners and does not do a smooth, clean, job.

    I'd like to know why he has been relatively ineffective this season? Is his arm going, have teams scouted him?

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    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by awy View Post
    if he was pitching like he was earlier in the season with a low pitch count per batter then he could start maybe. but if he's inefficient then it's no good
    If you're responding to grizy, he was referring to starting INNINGS, not games (as opposed to a reliever that comes in to get the team out of jams).


  7. #257

    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    most mlb teams would happily take drob as the closer. this is fluky
    always reasonable

  8. #258

    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Hud View Post

    I'd like to know why he has been relatively ineffective this season? Is his arm going, have teams scouted him?
    Isn't it obvious? He's lost 3-4 mph on his fastball. That's hard to overcome....

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    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Hud View Post
    I'd like to know why he has been relatively ineffective this season? Is his arm going, have teams scouted him?
    Well, if you consider that he put up a 1.08 ERA last year, he probably wasn't that extremely dominant and was surely to regress in some form this year.

    Here are some other numbers according to Fangraphs:

    K/9
    2011 - 13.5
    2012 - 11.9

    BB/9
    2011 - 4.73
    2012 - 3.09

    HR/9
    2011 - 0.14
    2012 - 0.89

    (To put in perspective, the career low for Mariano Rivera was 0.23 back in 2005.)

    BABIP

    2011 - .289
    2012 - .333

    GB%
    2011 - 46.3
    2012 - 48.0

    FIP (xFIP)
    2011 - 1.84 (2.46)
    2012 - 2.80 (2.77)

    The numbers are not totally far off from last year. Perhaps Robertson's assertion is correct from last night that balls this year just happen to be "finding holes" compared to 2011.
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    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by conkermaniac View Post
    Isn't it obvious? He's lost 3-4 mph on his fastball. That's hard to overcome....
    that's a huge stretch
    always reasonable

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    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    So, I guess we're looking past the perfect 8th he threw last night and the fact that only one ball was hit hard in the 9th?

    Robertson is not the reason the Yankees lost the game last night.
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    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz View Post
    So, I guess we're looking past the perfect 8th he threw last night and the fact that only one ball was hit hard in the 9th?

    Robertson is not the reason the Yankees lost the game last night.
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  13. #263

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
    I approve this post.
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  14. #264

    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    this guy is a shell of himself.

    girardi keeps trotting him out there.
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  15. #265

    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by KLJ View Post
    this guy is a shell of himself.

    girardi keeps trotting him out there.
    There are no other options.

  16. #266

    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    This team needs Robertson to excel just as it needs CC to excel. Inconsistency is not going to cut it the rest of the way.

  17. #267

    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by rajah View Post
    This team needs Robertson to excel just as it needs CC to excel. Inconsistency is not going to cut it the rest of the way.
    This post I agree with. Robertson has the ability to get thru any situation.
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  18. #268

    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    He did not get through that one without taxing the closer. He did not do his job today. He has to be consistently better if the Yankees are going to win their last game in the playoffs.

  19. #269

    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Carsten Charles View Post
    There are no other options.
    Me personally, i would've let Lowe start the 7th. I think he could've gotten us all the way to the 9th with no problems.

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    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by rajah View Post
    He did not get through that one without taxing the closer. He did not do his job today. He has to be consistently better if the Yankees are going to win their last game in the playoffs.
    I'm pretty down on Robertson as well. But I give him credit for racking up those two strikeouts before Girardi rightly handed the ball to Soriano.
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  21. #271

    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    he went from Houdini to Davey 2-Pack in less than a year

  22. #272

    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by rajah View Post
    He did not get through that one without taxing the closer.....
    soriano is probably gone from the nightcap due to robertson.
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    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    hasn't been the same since oblique injury... less velocity, seems more tentative on the mound
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    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    Did not look good today.
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    Re: 2012 David Robertson Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by flymick24 View Post
    hasn't been the same since oblique injury... less velocity, seems more tentative on the mound
    he has not been the same since he blew that save as a closer.

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