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09-30-12 01:56 PM #1776
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
For all the flak that Joe is getting, at some point the Yankee players themselves have to be held accountable for this collapse.
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09-30-12 02:01 PM #1777
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
Ah, yes, was beginning to wonder when you'd make an appearance with the same old shtick.
What that poster failed to mention is Nunez has helped the team win several games since he's been recalled
"knolwedgeable fan base"
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09-30-12 02:04 PM #1778
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
Just curious, how are players "held accountable" for a team's "collapse" or poor performance?
Their contracts generally depend on individual performance, don't they? For instance, the Yankees would not be bringing Jones back because of his second half failure, regardless of the team's success or failure. Their decision on how much to offer Swisher depends on their projections for him as an individual player. Etc.
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09-30-12 02:06 PM #1779
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
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09-30-12 02:07 PM #1780
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
The only effective way for a team to really hold players accountable is for them to blow up the team and either let them walk via free agency or trade them away
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09-30-12 02:09 PM #1781
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
It's not as if the roster is littered with major talent. There's quite a bit of crap floating around and expecting most of these guys to turn it on is a bit unfair. You can blame guys like ARod/Granderson/Tex, but that's about it really. Girardi doesn't deserve to shoulder most of the blame, but he hasn't helped his cause either.
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09-30-12 02:16 PM #1782
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
HEY !!!
100%
HEY !!!
CHECK / I like Buck and also Francona. I like Girardi alot in certain ways, but it increasingly feels like a Robot with a broken chip keeps steering the ship towards the rocks.
CHECK / I can see Stewart day after nite thing but not Jones -- especially on the great day Dickerson just had. (>> now to the bench >> "no good deed goes unpunished".)
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09-30-12 02:21 PM #1783
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
Agree, A Rod and Granderson in particular have been horrendous. Cano and Swisher and Jeter and Ichiro and some great games from Ibanez and Martin too, but it's rarely all working together. Tex's absence has been huge.
Girardi has no game feel at all. He continually lifts pitchers that are rolling for B pen matchups, and conversely lets sharding pitchers try to hit their pre scripted innings. What he did with Phil today is just what he's done with Freddy this yr and even Phil and AJ in the playoffs in years past. Twitchyness when not needed and lack of urgency when the ship's going down. Serenity now ...........
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09-30-12 02:21 PM #1784
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
I didn't think you were talking about their off field habits.
So I guess all you meant by holding the players "accountable" is using their poor performance to explain a bad record rather than assigning responsibility for a bad record to the manager.
Fair enough, but it is assumed that managers sometimes have an effect on players' performance in all sorts of way, not limited to game management. I don't know to what extent Girardi is responsible for the decline of this team's performance in the second half, but if I owned the team, I would at least consider the question.
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09-30-12 02:59 PM #1785
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09-30-12 05:36 PM #1787
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09-30-12 11:33 PM #1788
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
So this thread stays dormant when his moves/non-moves work?
Leaving Ibanez in against a lefty and PHing Nunez for Chavez both paid off. Good job, Joe.
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10-01-12 12:01 AM #1789
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
"Baseball is about hope, not confidence." -- rajah
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10-01-12 05:45 AM #1790
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10-01-12 01:49 PM #1791
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10-01-12 02:05 PM #1792
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
I read somewhere that the alternative would have been a righty-righty matchup, as Farrell had someone ready in the bullpen. Seems like he made a deliberate call to stick with Ibanez and I was good with it at the time. It's refreshing to see him forego an opportunity to burn a player.
"Baseball is about hope, not confidence." -- rajah
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10-01-12 02:13 PM #1793
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10-01-12 03:12 PM #1794
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
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@LoHudYankees Scratch that. Girardi just announced that Phelps will, in fact, start tomorrow.
Good call, Joe
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10-01-12 03:15 PM #1795
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
Shocked and pleased.
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10-01-12 04:52 PM #1796
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10-01-12 05:29 PM #1797
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
"Welcome to NYYFans, the place where Yankees fans come together to complain about the manner in which our team is winning games" -- Mr. Coffee
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10-01-12 05:42 PM #1798
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
Congrats to Joe for making the right move about Phelps tomorrow.
Standings: Big Inning 32-16; Blue Cut 27-21; Shoo Fly 26-22; Husk 22-26; Frank Pierce 21-27; Iowa City 16-32.
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10-01-12 06:14 PM #1799
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.- Barry Manilow
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10-01-12 09:12 PM #1800
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
I also applaud the choice of Phelps, but I wonder why he kept in CC for the 8th and even the 7th. Was it to get to 200 innings for him because he asked? CC may be needed on short rest if Andy has to pitch a 163d game for the Division and than CC has to go in a Wild Card game.
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