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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by unfamous loser View Post
    nope. he's warming up now.

    delightful managing tonight, truly.

    So he can retire the Sox with the Yankees behind. Great move!

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Lowe looking pretty awful too. Maybe I should be coming down on Cashman more...since he's the one that put this pen together. Its a craptastic bullpen outside DRob and Sori.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by unfamous loser View Post
    at this point in the game though, what's the point of changing this plan if such a thing existed?

    assuming Lowe pitches the 8th, he's blown through almost everyone in the pen save for Robertson and Soriano now. they're in a hole for tomorrow, if Nova blows up like he was allegedly projecting in this scenario.

    e: to be clear, I don't think Lowe is all that good, but little about Joe's use of the pen tonight makes sense. it's like he had it in his mind to over-manage and, damn it, he was going to do it.
    I wanted to see Lowe start the 6th but I think once the pen crapped out in the 5th, Joe decided to stay with Joba, against the bottom of the order, and clearly it did not work. Honestly I think the pen was so poor tonight that virtually any move that Joe made was going to fail.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    I think once they tied the game with a groundout, they should have stuck with Eppley.
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 2JAY View Post
    I wanted to see Lowe start the 6th but I think once the pen crapped out in the 5th, Joe decided to stay with Joba, against the bottom of the order, and clearly it did not work. Honestly I think the pen was so poor tonight that virtually any move that Joe made was going to fail.
    Pinch hitting for Chavez worked. But that was it. Lowe should have started the 6th if only because Joba has been pretty terrible so far. Coming off major surgery he is just not there yet.
    You really have to keep him out of close games untill he starts pitching like before his injuries.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by just-blaze View Post
    I think once they tied the game with a groundout, they should have stuck with Eppley.
    It was that damned lefty match-up with Pierzynski that doomed Eppley to 1 batter.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by just-blaze View Post
    I think once they tied the game with a groundout, they should have stuck with Eppley.
    Eppley was out of the game by then.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ymike673 View Post
    Eppley was out of the game by then.
    No he wasn't. He was pulled because of AJ who Rapada promptly loses to, to give up the lead.
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    After Sori and DRob the bullpen is weak. Logan has been overused and overexposed. Outside of those 3 guys the pen consists of a bunch of high 80's/low 90's junk ballers who depend on mediocre changeups to get batters out.

    edit: not including Joba who is a case study all to himself.
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Not Joe's greatest game.
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dabomb2045 View Post
    Isnt Lowe the long man for a reason? Why use the entire middle relief to get thru the 5th?
    I don't normally criticize Joe but I have no idea why we signed Lowe if he isn't the one to be brought in when Garcia was removed.
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dabomb2045 View Post
    Maybe I should be coming down on Cashman more...since he's the one that put this pen together. Its a craptastic bullpen outside DRob and Sori.
    IMO this would be too harsh when you factor in the Rivera injury. Having 3 dependable guys is very good. Heck, having 2 is better than we've had in some years

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Assuming CC rejoins the rotation on Friday the smart thing would be to maybe skip either Hughes, Nova or Garcia and give Phelps another start off his two great outings last week.
    But why do I know that Phelps will just go back to basically rotting in the bullpen.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by YankeePride1967 View Post
    I don't normally criticize Joe but I have no idea why we signed Lowe if he isn't the one to be brought in when Garcia was removed.
    Lowe should at least be brought in before Joba.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Gives his starting pitchers just enough rope to hang themselves.

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    We dont' have a lot of depth in the pen right now. Can't really blame Girardi for giving Nova extra rope.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    if he wasn't going to yank Nova early, I wish Joe would have left him out there longer than what he did.

    Nova was only at 84 pitches and had sort of settled down (and was only replaced with a guy like Lowe, anyway).

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by grizy View Post
    We dont' have a lot of depth in the pen right now. Can't really blame Girardi for giving Nova extra rope.
    ^this.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Girardi is good at dodging questions
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    I cant get on Joe much. His bullpen blows outside of DRob/Sori...and other then Kuroda (and CC when he returns) none of his starters are trustworthy.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Joe gets pissed at a loud guy after the game: http://deadspin.com/5937161/joe-gira...ium=socialflow
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    The we he switches from "STFU" mode back into "stock answer for post game interview" mode is pretty priceless
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Apparently Nova had stiffness in his arm Tuesday (reported in today's Daily News). Joe might be forced to give Phelps another start.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

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    Joe gets pissed at a loud guy after the game: http://deadspin.com/5937161/joe-gira...ium=socialflow
    Quote Originally Posted by flymick24 View Post
    The we he switches from "STFU" mode back into "stock answer for post game interview" mode is pretty priceless
    That was impressive actually.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by flymick24 View Post
    The we he switches from "STFU" mode back into "stock answer for post game interview" mode is pretty priceless
    It's just "SU" mode. Joe doesn't use words like "F."
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