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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
    Care to elaborate?

    Yanks have the 4th best bullpen ERA in the AL and have thrown the fewest inning of any pen in the AL.

    All this despite losing Mo - the Greatest Closer of All Time for most of the seasom.
    His top setup guy D-rob for ~6 weeks.
    No having a key cog - Joba until now.

    Only 2 Yankees Logan and Rapada rank high in appearances and both have less than 30 IP indicating he's used both as mostly LOOGY.

    Soriano has logged 43 IP which tops all Yakee relievers but ranks just 35th in the AL.

    I'm having a hard time seeming what Girardi could be doing better wrt pen management.
    good points all around. my only concern is Boone being burnt out, but it is remarkable how good the bullpen has been without Mo and Joba, while spinning Rapada and Eppley into gold

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
    Care to elaborate?

    Yanks have the 4th best bullpen ERA in the AL and have thrown the fewest inning of any pen in the AL.

    All this despite losing Mo - the Greatest Closer of All Time for most of the seasom.
    His top setup guy D-rob for ~6 weeks.
    No having a key cog - Joba until now.

    Only 2 Yankees Logan and Rapada rank high in appearances and both have less than 30 IP indicating he's used both as mostly LOOGY.

    Soriano has logged 43 IP which tops all Yakee relievers but ranks just 35th in the AL.

    I'm having a hard time seeming what Girardi could be doing better wrt pen management.
    Quote Originally Posted by nnysiny View Post
    good points all around. my only concern is Boone being burnt out, but it is remarkable how good the bullpen has been without Mo and Joba, while spinning Rapada and Eppley into gold
    Joe is one of the best big picture bullpen managers in the game. Given we had one of the worst prior to him, I'm more than happy. Also amazed that Mo's arm never fell off under Torre - that said, even he was beyond being that reckless.
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees1962 View Post
    I expect to see Phelps in tonight's game.

    You were right. Girardi used him for the important 8th inning with the Yankees down by 5 runs.
    The time to use him would have been to start the 6th inning with the Yankees still in the game.
    But for reasons only known to Joe, Phelps does not get to pitch any important innings on this team. Its a shame because the guy gets people out.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by fredgmuggs View Post
    I can't blame him for using Phelps this way for now, though. It's not desirable wasting the third best reliever in their bullpen (as of the last few weeks) as a long man.

    They sent Phelps down last month so he could be stretched out and be able to pitch multiple innings. What was the point of doing that if Joe only uses him maybe once a week to pitch one inning?

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Using 2 platoon players, Ibanez and Suzuki, in opposing roles tonight makes zero sense.
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ymike673 View Post
    They sent Phelps down last month so he could be stretched out and be able to pitch multiple innings. What was the point of doing that if Joe only uses him maybe once a week to pitch one inning?
    That wasn't the case before the prior 7 days. So let's see how he's used the next 7 days as relievers go through periods in which their usage is either heavy or light.
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Blazer View Post
    Using 2 platoon players, Ibanez and Suzuki, in opposing roles tonight makes zero sense.
    Usually I'd agree but they are going to play a lot FO games in a row. Giving Ichiro a half day off in a game like this probably isn't bad idea.
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Letting a tired Hughes face Cabrera...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajra21 View Post
    Usually I'd agree but they are going to play a lot FO games in a row. Giving Ichiro a half day off in a game like this probably isn't bad idea.
    How about giving him a whole day off...

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Benefactor View Post
    How about giving him a whole day off...
    .....against a lefty.
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Was Phelps unavailable? Would have liked to see him relieve Hughes.


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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Really great that after the 5th inning Joe used Eppley, Rapada and Joba but not the guy who is supposed to be the long man. Maybe had Phelps pitched from the 6th inning the Yankees win. We will never know. Really glad Joe used Phelps instead last night when the Yankees were down by 5 runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ymike673 View Post
    Really great that after the 5th inning Joe used Eppley, Rapada and Joba but not the guy who is supposed to be the long man. Maybe had Phelps pitched from the 6th inning the Yankees win. We will never know. Really glad Joe used Phelps instead last night when the Yankees were down by 5 runs.

    Phelps is on Girardi's list of relievers he won't use on b2b's. He essentially wasted him last night.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Can we stop with the Granderson leading off experiment?
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by just-blaze View Post
    Can we stop with the Granderson leading off experiment?
    +1, Girardi cant be that thick headed.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Benefactor View Post
    Phelps is on Girardi's list of relievers he won't use on b2b's. He essentially wasted him last night.
    So why use Phelps in the 8th inning Monday with the Yankees down 5 runs if it means he can't be used the next game in a better situation. He could have used the great Eppley on Monday. No one would have missed seeing him on Tuiesday.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by BRNXBMRS View Post
    +1, Girardi cant be that thick headed.
    Yes he can.
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by just-blaze View Post
    Can we stop with the Granderson leading off experiment?
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    It's high time that Girardi moved Grandy out of the lead-off spotee. It's pretty much been a train wreck-y.

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bomber999 View Post
    It's high time that Girardi moved Grandy out of the lead-off spotee. It's pretty much been a train wreck-y.

    ...and Joe listens to NYYFANS!!!

    Here is tonight's lineup 8/8/12 vs Detroit
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    Derek Jeter SS
    Nick Swisher RF
    Robinson Cano 2B
    Mark Teixeira 1B
    Eric Chavez DH
    Curtis Granderson CF
    Russell Martin C
    Ichiro Suzuki LF
    Casey McGehee 3B
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by hardrain View Post
    ...and Joe listens to NYYFANS!!!
    Christ I hope not.
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    I am liking that lineup. Let's go Yanks!

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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Coffee View Post
    Christ I hope not.

    Joe must have lost his binder this afternoon; that lineup is a radical departure.
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by hardrain View Post
    Joe must have lost his binder this afternoon; that lineup is a radical departure.
    Two lefties batting 5-6 in the lineup...that's dangerous for Joe. What if there's a lefty in the bullpen? What will he do then?
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    Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by JL25and3 View Post
    Two lefties batting 5-6 in the lineup...that's dangerous for Joe. What if there's a lefty in the bullpen? What will he do then?
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