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04-09-12 12:47 PM #176
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
Miguel Cabrera, Jose Bautista, Kevin Youkilis, David Ortiz, Josh Hamilton, Nelson Cruz, Joe Mauer, is this enough?? Or shall I continue? Manny Ramirez, These are players that kill the yankees no matter what. I left out the Angels, Kendrys Morales.. Carlos Pena, Evan Longoria, Victor Martinez.
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04-09-12 12:49 PM #177
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04-09-12 12:50 PM #178
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
I think trying a squeeze play with two strikes on the batter in the 8th inning was a head scratcher. It got Robertson out of the inning.
Madden is not perfect either and I really do not blame Girardi for the entire weekend.
But not letting CC pitch to Rodriguez but letting Rapada pitch to Longoria just makes you wonder what else Joe will be thinking up this season.
By the way Girardi has not called a squeeze play yet as Yankees manager.
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04-09-12 12:57 PM #179
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04-09-12 01:10 PM #180
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04-09-12 01:11 PM #181
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
Isn't Nelson Cruz a pitcher?
EDIT: and Joe Mauer and Josh Hamilton have sucked against the Yankees.
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04-09-12 01:15 PM #182
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
I may be "wooshing" here, but I think you're thinking of Juan Cruz.
He's talking about Cruz of the Rangers, who has hit .183 against the Yankees in his career, although he does have ~.270 isop against the Yanks. He was atrocious against the Yanks (.259 OPS) in the regular season last year.
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04-09-12 01:15 PM #183
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04-09-12 01:17 PM #184
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04-09-12 01:32 PM #185
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04-09-12 01:32 PM #186
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OW I see that you picked one out, I didn't even look their numbers up, all I know is that he had some big hits in the last few years, how come you didn't pick Big Poppi, or Manny. If you read my post you know i'm right, about most of these guys. My point is how could you let the same guys beat you over an over, wouldn't you walk them or pitch more carefully. Why throw 7 fastballs in a row to Pena, knowing that he's a dead fastball hitter with a great eye. Who called it.
Thanks Boss!
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04-09-12 01:39 PM #187
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04-09-12 01:41 PM #188
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04-09-12 01:49 PM #189
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04-09-12 01:56 PM #190
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We all know the players that beat us, but like I said to get pounded by the same players over and over. My only concern is winning, I'm with you guys.. I too watch every game, some of these losses could be avoided, we don't have a great manager, our guys are hard to manage. All facts, I'm getting tired of Tampa!
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04-09-12 01:59 PM #191
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04-09-12 02:14 PM #192
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
Sure, but a) SSS and b) the context was around Girardi being ineffective at containing a list of hitters. Is the fact that Cruz had a 1.713 OPS and set the ALCS record for home runs last season an indictment of Leyland's ability as a manager?
Cruz is a fine player, but I don't think his production (or lack of) against the Yankees really speaks much to Girardi's management.
Re: your initial comment... Definitely didn't hit a walk off against anyone in a Yankee uniform in the regular season last year. 20 PA's, 1 single, no XBH, 9 K's.
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04-09-12 02:17 PM #193
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
I didn't pick one out. I replied to another poster.
Walking Sean Rodriguez to get to Pena and then going with that pitch sequence was certainly questionable. You don't see me saying otherwise.
I don't strongly disagree with your POV necessarily, but I definitely think your supporting evidence is off. Best hitters hit, whether they're facing the Yankees or anyone else. I'm sure you could find terrible splits against for those same guys for terrible teams. Doesn't mean the opposing managers are geniuses either.
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04-09-12 02:23 PM #194
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
I will say this... that both Torre and Girardi probably didn't/don't encourage their pitchers/catchers enough to get hitters to move their feet, change eye level, etc. I definitely agree that guys like Manny and Ortiz and maybe some of the other guys you could list were entirely too comfortable against Yankee pitchers. I think that's a reasonable and fair observation.
If I'm remembering properly, we saw it yesterday with Hellickson and Swisher. Wasted one brushing him back a bit, and that probably didn't hurt his chances of recording the out.
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04-09-12 02:52 PM #195
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
Tonight's lineup Per LoHud:
Derek Jeter SS
Nick Swisher RF
Robinson Cano 2B
Alex Rodriguez DH
Mark Teixeira 1B
Curtis Granderson CF
Andruw Jones LF
Russell Martin C
Eduardo Nunez 3B
RHP Ivan Nova
A-Rod gets the break tonight. I guess we knew that was coming. I might have given Chavez a shot at third instead of Nunez, but I suppose it doesn't really matter.
EDIT: I forgot the LH Matusz was pitching.. ok with Nunez instead.
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04-09-12 02:55 PM #196
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04-09-12 03:01 PM #197
Re: 2012 Joe Girardi Performance Thread
I'm not liking this at all. It's like Girardi was praised last year for keeping guys rested and he's decided to make that the theme of this season. "Yankees Baseball 2012-- Come See How Alert Everyone Looks™"
Most of Gardner's value is in the field-- let him be out there.
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04-09-12 03:07 PM #198
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04-09-12 03:09 PM #199
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I'm going to be pissed if they platoon Grittner.
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04-09-12 03:13 PM #200
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