2012 Bullpen Performance Thread

[effdamets]

With Brian Wilson gone for the year, why not dangle Soriano at them and see what we can get? Does SF have someone we could use that would be a fair exchange for this guy?

Does it really need to be 'fair'?
Getting rid of that insane contract would be 'fair' enough....

[ajra21]

Does it really need to be 'fair'?
Getting rid of that insane contract would be 'fair' enough....

Think I've said this in another thread, probably his own, but if the Giants just took him and we asked for noting in return, I'd be really happy.

[effdamets]

Think I've said this in another thread, probably his own, but if the Giants just took him and we asked for noting in return, I'd be really happy.

Except stoopit Selig won't allow that.

[apalradio]

Except stoopit Selig won't allow that.

Unless maybe we shipped him to the Brewers for nothing.

[effdamets]

Unless maybe we shipped him to the Brewers for nothing.

No. Selig won't allow the Yankees to have a straight salary dump the way he lets everyone else do it. And no one can salary dump TO the Yankees the way he allows it to happen to the Sox.

So basically what I'm trying to say is - f*** Bud Selig. I hate him.

[Yankee Tripper]

With Brian Wilson gone for the year, why not dangle Soriano at them and see what we can get? Does SF have someone we could use that would be a fair exchange for this guy?

If we want Barry Zito in an exchange of bad contracts that may or may not appeal to SF as they have some in house options to close (Romo & Casilla) but probbaly not because they have no real SP depth at the AAA level to setp in for the loss of Zito. Since we have almost no use for Zito, can't see that one appealing to NYY anyway.

They would probably trade Huff straight up for Soriano if it wasn't for Soriano's $14M player option next year as there is only a $3M difference in salary this year and dealing Huff would open up 1B for Belt/Pill and fill their closer need.

If you are suggesting that the Giants might actually trade something useful while taking on the ~$27M remaining on Soriano's deal then

[ajra21]

No. Selig won't allow the Yankees to have a straight salary dump the way he lets everyone else do it. And no one can salary dump TO the Yankees the way he allows it to happen to the Sox.

So basically what I'm trying to say is - f*** Bud Selig. I hate him.

What about the Berkman trade?

[dabomb2045]

The bullpen is really saving this team's ass so far this year...imagine where we would be if they were even a little less then great.

[hellonewman]

Unless maybe we shipped him to the Brewers for nothing.

I'm sure Mark Attanasio, owner of the Brewers for a number of years now, would enjoy that sort of preferential treatment, but I can't think of a good reason why Selig would feel compelled to give it.

[Yankee Tripper]

What about the Berkman trade?

Or Abreu

Salary dumps are a part of baseball and will continue to be so.

It's been a long time sine the commisioner nixed a pure slary dump trade, I think going back to the 70s when Charley Finley tried to sell off his WS teams. IIRC Rollie Fingers & Joe Rudi were to be shipped to Boston and Vida Blue to New York in a pure salary dump for cash only to Oakland. The commissioner nixed both in the "best interest of baseball".

[effdamets]

In both the Berkman and Abreu trades, players were given back to the respective clubs.
The poster I was responding to was speaking about giving Soriano to the Brewers for nothing.

I guess I should have said that the there is no more selling players for straight cash anymore.

[Yankee Tripper]

Not technically selling for nothing but Rios went to the Sox mearly for them assuming his contract. Yes that was waivers so a bit different. But no reason the Yanks couldn't put Soriano on wavier and try the same thing if in fact they just wanted to get rid of salary.

And in the Abreu & Lidle for crap deal it is debatable whether or not the yanks sent anything even remotely expected to be marginal value.

[AuroraBomberalis]

The bullpen has been scary good.

[EvanJ]

In opponents' OPS the Yankees are 27th, with the starters 30th (last) and the bullpen 3rd. In ERA the Yankees are 19th, with the starters 26th and the bullpen 1st.

[ajra21]

Another good bullpen this year. Robertson and Mo are probably the best one-two punch and then the rest of them just do their job. I like that we have options and that the 'pen is deep. Given that Warren and Mitchell are in AAA, we look good going forward. Phelps wasn't at his best last night but he for the first time, he didnt look amazing. Can't bash the kind for that..

[fredgmuggs]

I'm not a huge fan of 13 man pitching staffs but with the way the starters have been performing they need everyone of them (I'm still not sold on Rapada)

[NY Dude]

The bullpen is really saving this team's ass so far this year...imagine where we would be if they were even a little less then great.

We'd have probably a record comparable to that of the Red Sox, but they don't even have a bullpen.

[hardrain]

Cory Wade gets so little credit on this board it's a shame...all he does is throw strikes and get outs.

[sweet_lou_14]

Cory Wade gets so little credit on this board it's a shame...all he does is throw strikes and get outs.

Good point. Worth pointing out that he was dumped by the Rays without ever being given a chance to pitch for them. I wonder why?

[Yankees1962]

Good point. Worth pointing out that he was dumped by the Rays without ever being given a chance to pitch for them. I wonder why?

Actually, he dumped them when the option to making a 25 man roster for another team became possible for him.

[teknetic]

Crappy 2009 and missed 2010. Figured he was cooked?

But, yea, awesome pickup.

[Yankees13]

Bullpen is keeping this team afloat right now.

[Gigi Buffon]

My inclination would be to keep DRob where he is and tell Sori it's now time to earn your money. He's done this before hopefully he can do it again...

[JohnnyEllis]

My inclination would be to keep DRob where he is and tell Sori it's now time to earn your money. He's done this before hopefully he can do it again...

Soriano as closer...that's even harder to contemplate than this injury to Mo.

Either way, he'll see a lot more action now, which should be enough to finish us off eventually.

[TheStraw]

Funny, I don't hear anyone calling for Soriano to be traded now.

Hopefully Aardsma is close to a return also,