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    2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

    IMO the Yankees have their heir apparent at SS if and when Jeter moves off SS or retires.

    Right now Nunez is a unity player for us, but this kid could start at SS on a number of teams and be a really good one too.

    His throws were erratic last year and that has to improve, but this kid can rake and he has nice range at SS as well.

    I don't look at him as a career utility player.

    I view him as a potential starter if he's not traded, and I think he can be a TOP 10 SS, maybe TOP 5
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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

    Where is the evidence that Nunez can "flat out rake"?
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    Where is the evidence that Nunez can "flat out rake"?
    Okay maybe not flat-out, but he can rake

    The evidence is in the eyes, you can see it, you can see when someone is hitterish

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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz View Post
    Where is the evidence that Nunez can "flat out rake"?
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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

    Rake is a strong word but this isn't the late 90's era of shortstops if Nunez got consistent AB's it should be no surprise if he was league average or better in the context of a shortstop.

    He can hit.

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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz View Post
    Where is the evidence that Nunez can "flat out rake"?
    well I don't know about rake. But both times he that he got consistant steady ABs because of injuries to either A-rod or Jeter, he posted .300+ BAs over those times.

    One thing he has show is he'd got some wheels.

    I personally think he could start at SS for a number of MLB teams and hold his own. The defense might be ugly but the offense I suspect would be a bit above average for the SS position. Not A-rod/Nomar/Jeter in thier primes above average but above average given what's out there at SS in MLB these days.

    I like him as a utilty guy on the Yanks because if Jeter/A-rod/Cano goes down for more than a 15 day DL, I think he's a guy that won't be a black hole filling in.

    Mind you, I'd prefer all three of those guys stayed 100% healthy this year but I think Nunez is a guy who can help much more than a Chavez, Hall or Pena should one of the big 3 go down for an extended period of time.
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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

    When it come to Nunez's defense I remember in a interview(don't remember where) where Teixeira was talking up how talented Nunez is and how he could start on many teams.

    When it comes to his defense and I'm paraphrasing he basically said that we have to understand that Nunez is still a young player not some super utility grizzled veteran guy who can come in and play spotless defense playing 1-2 games a week like it's nothing.

    He elaborated that he couldn't do it meaning playing 1-2 maybe 3 times a week and expect himself to play elite defense at 1B because that is not easy repetition is important specifically in baseball.

    The only way you can expect someone young like Nunez who has as much raw talent as he does to become better defensively is by playing everyday which at this point in his career as a Yankee is not likely.

    But the Yankees front office and coaching staff love his current offense to go along with his offensive potential enough that they can live with the spotty defense highly likely derived from erratic playing time.

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    I've seen interviews where people have given him the benefit of the doubt saying it's hard to play 3rd one day, 2nd the next, then 3rd etc. He said "it is, but it's no excuse (for the errors)"

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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2012/04/0...z-on-saturday/

    The lineup will change on Saturday, with Girardi planning to start Eduardo Nunez at shortstop or third while giving either Alex Rodriguez or Derek Jeter an early DH day. Thats going to be the regular plan against lefties. Might as well do it in Game Two against David Price.

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    I'll continue to support him as long as his helmet keeps flying off when he runs.
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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

    Then why is Andruw Jones on this team? if Jeter and A-Rod are the de facto DH against lefties it would have made more sense to carry Maxwell. For the record I have nothing against Jones as the RH DH. But if they are not going to use him in that capacity then he is pretty much useless.
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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz View Post
    Then why is Andruw Jones on this team? if Jeter and A-Rod are the de facto DH against lefties it would have made more sense to carry Maxwell. For the record I have nothing against Jones as the RH DH. But if they are not going to use him in that capacity then he is pretty much useless.
    he mashed lefties last year. I doubt A-rod/Jeter get all the DH days v LHP but they will get some give both age and/or injury concerns. Jones can also be 4th OF and start against some LHP giving days off to Gardner/Granderson/Swisher none of whom is likely to start 162 games.

    I guess they just prefered what they had with Jones v what they might have had with Maxwell.
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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

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    he mashed lefties last year. I doubt A-rod/Jeter get all the DH days v LHP but they will get some give both age and/or injury concerns. Jones can also be 4th OF and start against some LHP giving days off to Gardner/Granderson/Swisher none of whom is likely to start 162 games.

    I guess they just prefered what they had with Jones v what they might have had with Maxwell.
    Fair enough, but I'm not a big fan of Jones' defense at this stage of his career. I'd prefer to see his role limited to DH.
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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

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    Fair enough, but I'm not a big fan of Jones' defense at this stage of his career. I'd prefer to see his role limited to DH.
    Yeah I'd hate to see him out there on a regular basis but as a 4th outfield but we could do worse. I mean it's not like he looks like Marcus Thames when he's out in LF.
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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

    http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2012/04/0...ind-the-plate/
    • Girardi’s made it clear that he plans to play Eduardo Nunez against left-handers, using that as an opportunity to DH either Alex Rodriguez or Derek Jeter. That likely means Brett Gardner will get a lot of days off against lefties while Andruw Jones plays left field. As for Nunez, the Yankees seem to really believe he’ll be productive this season, and they’re planning to start him Saturday against David Price. “I’m not waiting a month this year (to put him in the lineup),” Girardi said.

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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

    .314 career OBP and an error machine. What am I missing that others see in this guy?
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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz View Post
    .314 career OBP and an error machine. What am I missing that others see in this guy?
    I love these Fangraphs worshipers (many of whom are NYY fans) who tell us Jeter is worst fielding SS ever. They love to believe that all the answers are right there on a piece of paper or in some ever-evolving fielding metric. They think these guys are robots and you can just plug them in anywhere.

    Playing SS for the Yankees is a different breed of animal and I submit Jeter does it as well as anyone can.
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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

    I love homegrown dudes as much as anyone and I tend to be bias at times, but this cat is straight terrible.

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    Jeter can be a below average fielder and still be massively better, in terms of overvall value at SS, even at his old age, than Nunez.

    it's not either/or, nor is it some "Fangraphs worshipper" thing, as even the staunchest of those folks would tell you old Derek is still >> than a guy who is sub-replacement player (at least in terms of fWAR, which, yes, has its flaws).

    edit: nice hit by Nunez there though.

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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

    Nunez seems like he is a disaster waiting to happen with the glove. Good thing Brignac screwed up or Nunez would have had another defensive lapse.

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    i don't know why he is this bad at defense. can't be real
    always reasonable

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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

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    .314 career OBP and an error machine. What am I missing that others see in this guy?
    The guy in your avi was once a .320 OBP w/ 17 errors from 2B, his first full season. Did you miss something there?

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    give it time. It's basically first game of the season, even Jetes would have had an error if not for Teix in gm.1

    All anyone had to do is listen to Lou when he was talking about that kid, that was a good 95 mph inside pitch by an ace in David Price that Nino hammered.
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    Ah yes, comparing him to the best player at his position in the game. Solid.

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    I like using Nunez against lefties mostly because the team needs to give ARod frequent half days. Keeping him healthy is going to be critical this year. It doesn't hurt to give Jeter a half day here and there also, but I'm hoping ARod is DHing more often against lefties.

    As for his defense I make no excuses for Nunez. He's not a good defender and if he doesn't improve the Yankees may have to alter there plans and use Chavez to give ARod time off. That said Nunez can do more at the plate and on the bases than Chavez so I'm willing to give Nunez a longer look in this role.

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    Re: 2012 Eduardo Nunez Performance Thread

    He had a .647 OPS in 37 GS against lefty starters last year.

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